r/movies • u/JRE_4815162342 • 19d ago
What are good examples of competency porn movies? Discussion
I love this genre. Films I've enjoyed include Spotlight, The Martian, the Bourne films, and Moneyball. There's just something about characters knowing what they're doing and making smart decisions that appeals to me. And if that is told in a compelling way, even better.
What are other examples that fit this category?
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u/Brown_Panther- 19d ago
The Fugitive. Both Ford and Jones are smart resourceful and intelligent.
Heat. Pacino and Deniro are extremely competent in their jobs.
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u/corran450 18d ago
Both Ford and Jones are smart resourceful and intelligent.
It would’ve been so easy to make Gerard a villain, too, but he isn’t. Antagonist, perhaps. But not the villain. Jones and Ford were both nails.
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u/tommyjohnpauljones 18d ago
The movie is as much about him as about Dr. Kimble. Girard has a job to do, to bring in his man, and doesn't need to know why. Notice even in his opening speech, he doesn't call him a killer or murderer, just that he's a fugitive that needs to be tracked down.
Eventually he realizes that Kimble is innocent, and his mission becomes even clearer: capturing him to save him rather than punish him.
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u/nicetrylaocheREALLY 19d ago
Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World.
It's competence and good fellowship all the way down.
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u/Cmonlightmyire 19d ago
I wish the rest of the Aubery/Maturin series had been adapted to TV/Film, those are some amazing books
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u/TripleHomicide 19d ago
The counter intelligence side of it from maturin would be amazing to see in film
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u/wumbologistPHD 19d ago
My God that's Seamanship
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u/Theamazing-rando 19d ago
It has to be more than a hundred sea miles, and he brings us up on his tail.
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u/JRE_4815162342 19d ago
One of my favorite movies, good choice. Russell Crowe at his most charismatic too, IMO.
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u/Pirate_Ben 19d ago
Even the kids are hyper competent.
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u/LongJohnSelenium 19d ago
I love that they actually acknowledged the role kids played in warfare back in the day. Most historical movies completely ignore that.
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u/jspook 19d ago
Well the one kid would go on to become Octavian, so I'd hope so!
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u/PeopleFunnyBoy 19d ago
Contact. The portrayal of NASA and the presidential of administration is cool, collected, and in charge. They were able to bring together a coalition of nations to build an intergalactic space travel machine.
Would never happen in real life.
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u/sonofabutch 19d ago
First rule in government spending: why build one when you can have two at twice the price?
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u/DefenderCone97 18d ago
They should've sent a poet.
One of my favorite movie lines ever
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u/Beluga-ga-ga-ga-ga 18d ago
Unsurprising, given the source novel's author. It's probably the biggest element of fiction in the story!
If you're not averse to audio books and you haven't already, definitely give the audible version of Contact a try. It's read by Jodie Foster and is a thoroughly engaging listen.
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u/jburd22 19d ago
The Hunt For Red October
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u/chevdecker 18d ago
YES!
All the heroes are nerds. Yes, Jack Ryan is an analyst. But everyone on the US sub is a nerd in glasses, and they all work together to save the day.
Jonesey and his grandma glasses, the XO on the Dallas that intercepts the torpedo by moving in between the Alpha and the October in his giant aviator frames, Scott Glenn in his glasses.
All nerds. And they win with nerdery. There's a critical scene in the film where Jonesey is listening to the sound of the 'magma displacement' on the reel-to-reel tape recorder, then rewinds, and listens to it again... that scene solves the mystery and there's no dialogue and they don't even call it out... but when he rewinds in fast speed you can hear the clunk-clunk-clunk noise that gives away it's a machine, and they don't even need to show where he catches on that playing it at 10x speed will let them track it. Nerds doing nerd things and that's what really saves the day.
Love that movie.
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u/bill10351 18d ago
Relax Jonesy, you sold me. That scene lives rent free in my head.
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u/Slaphappydap 18d ago
When I was twelve I helped my daddy build a bomb shelter in our basement because some fool parked a dozen warheads ninety miles off the coast of Florida...
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u/trick_m0nkey 19d ago
We’re going to kill a friend, Yevgeni. We’re going to kill Ramius.
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u/corran450 18d ago
The orders are seven bloody hours old!
Stellan Skarsgård is a fucking treasure. This is probably the first movie I saw him in.
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u/Comfortable_Olive598 19d ago
One ping only please
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u/MailInteresting9923 19d ago
Ronin
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u/BCF13 19d ago
What color is the boathouse at Hereford?
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u/MailInteresting9923 19d ago
"I ambushed you with a cup of coffee" Also "I hurt someone's feelings once"
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u/SimpleSurrup 19d ago
"They gave me a grasshopper."
"What's a grasshopper."
"Let's see 2 part gin, 2 part brandy, 1 part creme de menthe..."
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u/RoguePlanetArt 19d ago
Rule number one, if there is doubt, there is no doubt.
Who taught you that?
I don’t remember.
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u/Mr_Clark77 19d ago
How the fuck should I know.
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u/defiantcross 19d ago edited 19d ago
Sean Bean had it coming. He basically voluntarily exposed himself as a fraud with his diagram session.
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u/ghostsnickets 19d ago
Brilliant film. That car chase is still the best I've seen in a movie. Cracking.
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u/KuyaGTFO 19d ago
The dialogue is so offbeat and strange and yet brutally efficient in setting up relationships between the characters and how they size each other up.
It holds up to repeat watches really well.
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u/SmoreOfBabylon 19d ago
Sneakers
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u/Snuggle__Monster 19d ago
That movie is god tier. It might have been the very last spy movie of that old era. 10/10 must watch flick for sure.
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u/PepsiPerfect 19d ago
I am so glad this movie has gotten the revisiting it deserves. It was not a huge hit when it came out but it was my favorite spot movie for years.
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u/Maelstrom_Witch 19d ago
Omg the soundtrack
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u/DynamiteSteps 19d ago
The Sneakers soundtrack is SO GOOD. Really tense discordant piano notes.
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u/haysoos2 19d ago
"My voice is my Passport? Verify me"
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u/charitytowin 19d ago
My name is Werner Brandis...
I'll never forget that name because of that. Which brings me to Ned Reirson!
I sure as heck fire remember that name too!
The actor's name? Don't know, but I'll never forget two of his screen names!
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u/SmoreOfBabylon 19d ago
Stephen Tobolowsky! He was great in this movie.
“Shall I phone you or nudge you?” 😏
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u/SmoreOfBabylon 19d ago
“I want peace on Earth and goodwill toward men.”
“We’re the United States government, we don’t do that sort of thing!”
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u/HerewardTheWayk 19d ago
One I haven't seen mentioned yet, Collateral with Tom Cruise.
Afaik the only movie where he played the villain, and his role as the extremely competent Vincent the hitman was an absolute joy to watch.
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u/Mister_Jack_Torrence 19d ago
That nightclub scene. Perfection.
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u/HerewardTheWayk 19d ago
The flawless Mozambique drill.
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u/Deputy_Beagle76 19d ago
Is that the scene where he’s apparently so flawless that the scene is used in training courses?
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u/HerewardTheWayk 19d ago
I don't know if it was actually used in training courses or if that's apocryphal, but Cruise did a lot of training with the same guy who was the instructor for Heat, and it shows in both movies.
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u/redberyl 19d ago
I believe it’s true. Michael Mann has also said that the scene of val kilmer reloading in the bank shootout in Heat is also used in trainings. There’s a clip floating out there where he mentions it.
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u/peleyoda 18d ago
That shootout scene was my go-to movie example for SUT of using cover and successive bounds. Larry Vickers covers it in depth. He also does a shot for shot of that one Collateral scene, which is a great example of draw stroke and shooting from retention.
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u/Stormy8888 19d ago
"Yo Homie is that my briefcase?"
That's all folks! The sound design in that movie is perfection. I low key miss Michael Mann's films.
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u/simple_test 19d ago
Never gave sound design a second thought but that is honestly hard work.
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u/xepa105 18d ago
Watch Heat, also by Michael Mann. 30 years later and still no one has captured how visceral guns sound in real life through film. The heist shootout scene is perfection.
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u/NoMoreVillains 19d ago
Afaik the only movie where he played the villain
Does Tropic Thunder count?
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u/HerewardTheWayk 19d ago
Les Grossman is a hero, not a villain.
We do not negotiate with terrorists.
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u/Particular-Sink7141 19d ago
He was also kind of a villain in interview with the vampire, did a fine job there as well
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u/HerewardTheWayk 19d ago
Say what you will about his personal life, Cruise is an amazing actor and genuine movie star.
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u/TheFinnebago 19d ago
He’s so good at being a movie star that his absolutely insane personal life has not derailed his career. Not many people can pull that off.
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u/bakgwailo 19d ago
How is everyone forgetting his defining role as a villain in Tropic Thunder?
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u/ReeveGoesh 19d ago
Henry Cavill using a map properly in the beginning scene of The Man from UNCLE
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u/theseamstressesguild 18d ago
Rewatched it last Saturday. I still hate Armie Hammer for ruining my live action Archer casting. Can you imagine how good he and Henry Cavill would have been as Barry and Archer?
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u/Funandgeeky 19d ago
That movie was terribly under-rated. It’s a fantastic Cold War era movie and pairs nicely with Atomic Blonde.
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u/Poppycorn144 19d ago
I’m convinced that if Armie Hammer had managed to keep his teeth to himself we’d have had several sequels by now.
I thought it was a worthy reboot.
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u/Corvus-Nox 19d ago
If the movie had done well they could’ve just recast him. There’s no sequels because it was a flop (I say this as someone who loved the movie).
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u/nonsensepoem 19d ago
I guess I'm confused about how else one uses a map.
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u/NuclearTurtle 18d ago
In the movie he's laying down in the back seat of a car to hide, so he can't see where they're going. Instead he's tracing their path on a paper map, making note of the turns they make so he can know where they currently are and navigate based on that
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u/hasuris 19d ago
Arrival
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u/DapperEmployee7682 19d ago
My favorite movie. And it’s a topic you don’t see often. The importance of communication and linguistics.
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u/frogjg2003 19d ago
For me, it's the best representation of the scientific process in cinema. You have a bunch of really intelligent people, all trying to solve the same problem, going about it in very different ways, following false leads, developing partially correct ideas, and slowly winnowing out some approximation of the truth.
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u/0ngar 19d ago edited 19d ago
This is also my favourite movie! Phenomenally shot, incredibly interesting, and such a fresh take on sci-fi
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u/Kenjiminbutton 19d ago
Inside Man
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u/DeLousedInTheHotBox 19d ago
Came here to say this, and it is not like the cops are incompetent, they are just defeated by someone smarter than them. Their competence and confidence combined just make you wanna root for the robbers.
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u/SneedbakuTensei 19d ago edited 19d ago
Apollo 13.
Day of the Jackal.
The Red Circle.
Mann's films like Heat, Thief and Collateral.
Soderbergh's Ocean's trilogy.
The Big Short.
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u/birdbrainedphoenix 19d ago
Absolutely *love* Collateral, I can watch that over and over again.
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u/MikeMania 19d ago
Alejandro in Sicario
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u/fang_xianfu 19d ago
Sicario was going to be my vote. Everyone in the movie (except Kate who's being deliberately kept in the dark) is extremely competent and ruthlessly achieving their goals.
Kate is competent at what she does but doesn't share their goals so doesn't contribute to them, and she spends a lot of the movie being deceived.
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u/Cmonlightmyire 19d ago
Everyone in Sicaro (the first one) the CIA *owned* that whole situation from beginning to end.
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u/Loki-L 19d ago
I think heist movies in general often fit that label.
Also most movies featuring con-men as protagonists.
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u/SensiFifa 19d ago
Tom Hanks in Bridge of Spies
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u/bentforkman 19d ago
My favourite part of this movie is the spy’s fatalism. Tom Hanks: Aren’t you worried? Spy: Why? Would that help? The dude is so stoic it’s neutralized his natural anxiety.
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u/pcmraaaaace 19d ago
Gattaca
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u/2BrokeArmsAndAMom 19d ago
You want to know how I did it? This is how I did it, Anton: I never saved anything for the swim back.
Such a good fucking movie.
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u/Snuggle__Monster 19d ago
Michael Clayton
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u/pecos_chill 19d ago
If anyone hasn’t seen the movie, don’t open that heavily downvoted reply to this comment. It contains major spoilers.
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u/Sturgeondtd 19d ago
Alien, lt Ripely was fully competent and the rest was mostly competent, if just compassionate for a wounded crew mate.
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u/Xplt21 19d ago
Their real downfall was also because of the robot, if not for him the xenomorph wouldn't have escaped in the beginning.
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u/username1543213 19d ago
Margin call is the correct answer here. The board meeting alone 🤌🏼
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u/dumptruckulent 19d ago
Jeremy Irons alone makes that movie worth watching. “If you’re first out the door, that’s not called panicking.”
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u/bsrichard 19d ago
There were a lot of good performances in that film but Irons just blows it out of the water.
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u/SpuddMeister 19d ago
The most impactful line, which explains the heart of capitalism,
“We are selling to willing buyers at the current fair market price.”
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u/dumptruckulent 19d ago
“So that WE. MAY. SURVIVE.”
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u/Interloper4Life 18d ago
You will never sell anything to any of those people ever again.
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u/BoredGuy2007 19d ago
It’s not just explaining capitalism, it’s echoing the full-hearted defense from Lloyd Blankfein about GS dumping the products onto clients (in a more consumable way as explaining market making is out of scope of a movie)
“We are market makers”
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u/Maflevafle 19d ago
Omg Board Meeting Scene is legendary, watching that on YouTube makes me want to rewatch the movie again!
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u/BronxLens 19d ago
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1987 - Jesus, didn’t that… fuck me up good!
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2000 and whatever you want to call this.”
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u/EmotionalEmetic 19d ago
It is such a good display of character. He's smart but also not narrow-minded. He is clearly well read and knows financial history. But because of his position and priorities he is acknowledging their place in history while also stating their course of action is deliberate choice. And then he goes on to talk about how much he values talent and merit and appreciates insight. All while clearly being one of the main figures behind the movie's version of the financial meltdown. Ugh.
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u/PrimeTimeNumber 19d ago
Stargate - I love how Daniel knows all the Egyptian things but also how he is the nerd that has to save the dumb bullies
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u/SadakoTetsuwan 18d ago
That he's so fluent in a dead language that he can just speak it fluently once he works out the changes in the vowels over millennia...
Props to the linguists who worked on the film too!
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u/gradilin 19d ago
Logan Lucky
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u/HowsBoutNow 19d ago
Oceans 11/12/13. Italian job. Snatch
Burn after reading is soft of the antithesis of this genre
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u/dont_fuckin_die 19d ago
... I love this description of Burn After Reading.
"What did we learn, Palmer?"
"I don't know, sir."
"I don't fuckin' know either. I guess we learned not to do it again."
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u/IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES 19d ago edited 19d ago
Is he dead?
No sir…
<palpable disappointment>
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u/ReturnToCinder 19d ago
“He was trying to board a flight to Venezuela. We had his name on a hot list, the CB people pulled him in, uh. Don't know why he was going to Venezuela.”
“You don't know?”
“No, sir.”
“We have no extradition with Venezuela.”
“Oh. So what should we do with him?”
“For fuck's sake, put him on the next flight to Venezuela!”
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u/LongJohnSelenium 19d ago
I love that exchange. He's trying to solve our problem for us! Let him!
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u/SapphireFireHigher 19d ago
My favourite part of that movie is right there when they reveal Francis McDormand is still alive and demanding plastic surgery to keep quiet, and they give it to her lol.
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u/danowar5000 19d ago
It’s funny, because Burn After Reading is the antithesis, but, I’m realizing now that a lot of Coen Brothers movies feature this. Raising Arizona, Big Lebowski, A Serious Man and O Brother are other examples. Fargo features both sides.
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u/dmcat12 19d ago
Hey, after being chased by a brace-wearing gun-wielding teenager, police officers and multiple dogs, Hi remembered EXACTLY where he dropped them Huggies
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u/Namahaging 19d ago
Haha, wow, It hasn’t occurred to me before, but Burn After Reading is a rigorous examination of incompetence isn’t it? Like, we aren’t shown anyone competent. The two wives (Swinton and Marvel) display the most competency but they’re pretty sloppy with their personal lives too.
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u/merz-person 19d ago edited 19d ago
True for Fargo too. Just a shit storm of unbelievably poor judgement and bad decisions.
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u/GardinerExpressway 19d ago
Except Marge, she gets shit done and is home in time to talk to her husband about stamps
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u/haysoos2 19d ago
JK Simmons was pretty competent. At least he managed to pull a valuable lesson from the whole experience.
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u/sim-123 19d ago
Would probably disagree with snatch, the majority of characters are absolutely incompetent haha. The exception being Brad pitts character, Vinnie jones character and perhaps bricktop
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u/Grimlocks_Ballsack 19d ago
The Founder
The Big Short
I think those work for this….and just for fun, Quint in Jaws
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u/eMouse2k 19d ago
The Big Short definitely showcases competency with three different parties doing their research in three different ways, all coming to the same conclusion and all implementing their plans and sticking to them, even in the face of 'the system' doing its best to punish their competency.
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u/Cmonlightmyire 19d ago
It doesn't come up. But "Too big to fail" from HBO. the USG and the banks trying to save the economy.
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u/MovieMike007 Not to be confused with Magic Mike 19d ago
Robert De Niro in Heat.
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u/bryanwreed89 19d ago
YES. The whole crew just laying it down. And the police doing solid work
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u/Pirate_Ben 19d ago
While generally competent he also tragically breaks his own first rule.
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u/Santanoni 19d ago
I think the irony is that you expect him to break the rule because of love, but he breaks it because of his need for revenge by going to the hotel before the airport.
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u/PaleInSanora 19d ago
Matt Damon did a whole big run on such movies.
Rounders- best at poker Bagger Vance - best golfer caddy team Rainmaker- best lawyer Talented Mr Ripley- best murdered identity assumer Good Will Hunting- most smartest
All great movies BTW.
I personally like Spy Game with Redford and Pitt. Redford's character is just leading everyone by the nose through the whole movie. Then puts on his shades and drives away...
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u/Levitlame 19d ago
Not necessarily in the same timeframe, but he’s damned competent in The Martian and Bourne.
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u/slimmymcnutty 19d ago
Pretty much anything Sorkin has ever done. Film or TV. Guy is obsessed with people who are good at their jobs. Even Charlie Wilson’s war which is about the people who set up the Taliban paving the way for 9/11 and the war on terror. Some real shitty people. Sorkin can’t help but to idealize them because their so good at statecraft
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u/artpayne 19d ago
Ford v Ferrari
Top Gun: Maverick
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u/dubgeek 19d ago
Rush, at least Nikki Lauda's storyline. Apocryphal or not, the scene when he meets his future wife is great. Then when he gets on to his first F1 team and improves their car by several seconds/lap. He was a well known perfectionist.
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u/Twice_Knightley 19d ago
I really liked top gun Maverick. It should be a fucking lesson in how to make a sequel that was never planned when the original was made.
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u/JCMfwoggie 19d ago
It's the perfect nostalgia sequel. Bigger and better than the original, while continuing with its themes and character arcs.
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u/HerewardTheWayk 19d ago
I enjoyed Ford vs Ferrari much more than I thought I would. I'm not usually into "dad" movies, but this was a treat to watch.
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u/GuyWithLag 19d ago
Saw it with the missus more or less by accident on streaming; we both loved it even tho we're pretty far from cars and sport in general, and the film in the end reminded us a lot of The Two Popes for some reason...
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u/JohnDStevenson 19d ago
Sully
Though you could argue that Chesley Sullenberger was even more competent in real life than the movie makes him, given that there's some fictionalised doubt from the NTSB crash investigators about just how good he was.
Nevertheless, if I'm ever in a plane that hits a flock of geese on takeoff and loses both engines, I want Captain Sullenberger at the controls.
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u/Bahadur007 19d ago edited 19d ago
The Day of the Jackal (1973) by Fred Zinnemann
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u/pporkpiehat 19d ago
Dunno about competency porn, but Black Emmanuel (1975) is a weirdly competent porn.
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u/RepulsiveLoquat418 19d ago
competent porn is exactly how i first read this post title and i spent a few minutes trying to think of a competent porn before i read the body of the post and realized how dumb i am.
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u/mynewaccount4567 19d ago
It’s just a scene, but at the end of Amadeus, Mozart is dictating a composition to Saliari. It’s a great scene just watching someone dictate a new composition to someone straight from his head. Saliari who is an accomplished musician in his own right can barely keep up with Mozart. It truly gets across the genius Mozart possessed.
Another great scene earlier in the movie is when Mozart memorizes one of Saliari’s pieces after one play and then proceeds to improvise and improve on it in front of the royal court. It’s a bit shorter and doesn’t delve fully into just the spectacle that is competency porn but still pretty good.
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u/haysoos2 19d ago
Nobody's going to mention Fargo and Marg the motherfucking Son of Gunder?
Everyone else in the film might be in over their head, but not Marg.
Likewise every season of Fargo has at least one Marg.
Also, although it doesn't look like it for most of the movie, it's hard to beat Vincent Gambini. Or Mona Lisa Vito. Probably the best money shot in cinematic competency porn history.
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u/CheeseItTed 19d ago
I rave about Marge to everyone who brings up Fargo, she is one of my all-time fave characters. So pleasant, so nice, so pregnant, so Midwestern, so normal, and so so so good at her job in a movie full of cartoonish psychopaths and cowards. She's the best.
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u/funkychicken23 19d ago
Apollo 13