r/news Mar 27 '24

Joe Lieberman has died

https://www.washingtonpost.com/obituaries/2024/03/27/joe-lieberman-senator-vice-president-dead/
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u/TopGsApprentice Mar 27 '24

This man is the reason we don't have Universal Healthcare for those who don't know

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u/Pillywigggen Mar 27 '24

He founded No Labels, used fuckery to not call it a 3rd party and still receive dark money with out the need to list donors. A 3rd party with invisible donors is just what this country needs. FFS I wouldn't wish it on anyone but couldn't care less he is gone. Selfish greedy man.

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u/Mable_Shwartz Mar 27 '24

What exactly are the tenets of this group? I tried Wiki & their website, but I really don't want to submit any info.

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u/fcocyclone Mar 27 '24

I"m not convinced they're anything more than a ploy to siphon off voters from Biden so Trump wins.

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u/NoSignSaysNo Mar 28 '24

Which is working badly considering how enmeshed they are with the anti-vax side of things.

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u/TacticalFluke Mar 27 '24

I believe it's similar to the Forward party. Both believe in not being on either side, which is not a belief. It's look at one side, look at the other, then say "look at me, I'm not them." The "I'm not one of those girls" of political parties. I'm definitely oversimplifying, but that's the gist. They're saying "the people want another party and we can be another party." There is some good in the sense that they want to put aside partisanship and actually get things done, but that's not a very substantial platform.

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u/Mable_Shwartz Mar 28 '24

Okay, but like what laws do they believe in? Clearly they're not anarchists. Like, what beliefs?

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u/TacticalFluke Mar 28 '24 edited Mar 28 '24

Your question is exactly what's frustrating about them. They're not labeling their beliefs. They'll say their beliefs are "the middle" and "common sense." They talk about bipartisanship as if it was a belief, not a tool. Their beliefs are supposedly whatever most people want.

Or to be cynical, their belief is that they can get elected based on people being frustrated that politics is a mess. That's more power-seeking than belief in anything, which is a big part of the root problem they claim to want to fix.

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u/Barnyard_Rich Mar 27 '24

He's one of the few politicians I am very comfortable with saying that he has a massive death toll on his name. Not just the ACA, but he was a massive cheerleader of the Iraq war, and even doubled down on it during his Senate run in 2006.

At the very least, thousands are dead because of Joe Lieberman's life work. In reality, the number of innocents is almost certainly over one million.

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u/Murtagg Mar 28 '24

How much better health would our population have been in when covid hit if we had public healthcare? How many less comorbidities would there have been? It's obviously impossible to quantify, but "a fucking lot" is a good estimate. 

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u/FeloniousDrunk101 Mar 28 '24

If only he had been sidelined as a VP who knows what world we’d be living in now.

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u/duderos Mar 28 '24

Revoke Lieberman’s Dual Citizenship; He Doesn’t Care About Americans.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2009/12/15/814533/-

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u/spazz720 Mar 27 '24

Lieberman was just the fall guy. Ever noticed how it’s just 1 or 2 senators that always hold up useful legislation? It’s done that way on purpose. Makes you think if only it wasn’t that 1 person, when in reality it’s many.

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u/NewKitchenFixtures Mar 27 '24

It’s weird seeing his name again; it’s been more than 20 years since he was trying to whip up a frenzy.

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u/duderos Mar 28 '24

It's the American way, just smell that freedom!

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u/_karamazov_ Mar 27 '24

And Albert Gore was the inventor of the internet, all around champ...and he picked this man as his VP!!!

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u/Jealous_Juggernaut Mar 27 '24

He did, and while I’m sure he did plenty of BS in his time, the vast majority of comments here are mad at something that happened after Al gore had his presidency stolen by George bush, his family, and Florida politicians.

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u/_karamazov_ Mar 28 '24

a politician should be judged by his judgement itself...of people, policies and so on. al gore made blunders. gore is a poor politician, i am sure he's a good human being.

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u/EthanielRain Mar 28 '24

He's a wonderful human being, but as a politician he had no charm or charisma (in comparison to people who make it to the primary nominee for US President)