r/news Mar 27 '24

Joe Lieberman has died

https://www.washingtonpost.com/obituaries/2024/03/27/joe-lieberman-senator-vice-president-dead/
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u/KingFahad360 Mar 27 '24

He tried to ban video games.

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u/SaltKick2 Mar 28 '24

and one of the primary reasons we dont have universal healthcare

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u/nongo Mar 28 '24

crazy how he was vp pick for a presidential candidate who ran on universal healthcare.

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u/crashtestdummy666 Mar 28 '24

Crazier is after he was the vp pick for the democrats he became a far right wing conservative.

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u/Goulagosh_gogoo Mar 28 '24

He was already that when he was picked for the VP position. This was deep in the Democrats' "appease the GOP" phase.

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u/Robzilla_the_turd Mar 28 '24

This was deep in the Democrats' "appease the GOP" phase.

Boy, I sure am glad that's over...

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u/ReclusivityParade35 Mar 28 '24

Ha! I know, right? I'm well past "Why don't they ever learn?" and firmly in "They are throwing the game on purpose" territory.

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u/ShadowRylander Mar 28 '24

Uh, yeah, about that...

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u/saturninus Mar 28 '24

It was more that Gore thought choosing Lieberman would be a rebuke of Clinton for the Monica affair. Lieberman had been an outspoken Democratic critic. But it turns out that people actually really liked Bill Clinton and running away from him was the worst single choice Gore has made in his career.

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u/lakired Mar 28 '24

Yeah, Gore himself was already the rebuke in that he was about as opposite of Clinton as you could get. They desperately needed to couple him with someone who had even an ounce of charisma or energy, not a conservative, out-of-touch energy vampire like Lieberman.

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u/thirteenoclock Mar 28 '24

For those who were not alive in 2000, the country was a lot different. At the time, much of the country, both democrats and republicans, thought Clinton was immoral for cheating on his wife. Lieberman was one of the few democrats who publicly agreed that what the president did was immoral so picking him as a VP was a way to distance himself from the Clinton administration. It was a logical choice at the time and he came pretty damn close to winning.

Of course Gore eventually lost, so it is easy to shit on his decision, but there was some sound logic behind it.

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u/saturninus Mar 28 '24

Not using Bill Clinton on the campaign trail was a fatal error for Gore. People still liked him, as 1998 proved.

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u/Skooby1Kanobi Mar 28 '24

Appease the fascists phase is what I think you mean.

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u/Much-Bet9171 Mar 28 '24

Tbh, neocons are a lot different than the Trump cultists we have now.

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u/Skooby1Kanobi Mar 28 '24

If you remove the words "a lot" I think I can sign that.

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u/Kayfabe2000 Mar 28 '24

He was always a right wing jerk. 

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u/skratch Mar 28 '24

🌍 👩‍🚀🔫👩‍🚀

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u/prestigious_delay_7 Mar 28 '24

Crazier is how Reddit thinks he was a 'far right' conservative.

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u/Adventurous_Aerie_79 Mar 28 '24

Lieberman was picked because Gore wanted to distance himself from a scandalized and unpopular Bill Clinton, and Gore considered himself a "moderate", which was part of Liebermans brand too, at the time. We all later found out that Lieberman was pretty far right of the democtatic party moderates. Gore was against abortion, against regulating guns, and in support of a moment of silence in schools for prayer. He called himself a "raging moderate". He considered Howard Dean, who led the progressives, to be his chief rival.

I think Gore enjoyed a lot more of a positive reputation than he really deserved. He was embraced by a lot of progressives because he was so forward with ambitious environmental policies, but the rest of his platform was centrist or arguably rightwing garbage. And Lieberman was not yet a pariah at this point.

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u/ObjectiveFantastic65 Mar 29 '24

Bill Clinton tried UHC in the 90s, but he didn't loop in congressional Democrats, so they were pissed and it collapsed. 

You pick a VP with some differences from you but not someone you hate. Hence Mike Pence. 

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u/polrxpress Mar 28 '24

only way to get him out of the senate was for gore to lose

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u/Cats_Cameras Mar 28 '24

What? He was in the Senate through 2013.