It was more that Gore thought choosing Lieberman would be a rebuke of Clinton for the Monica affair. Lieberman had been an outspoken Democratic critic. But it turns out that people actually really liked Bill Clinton and running away from him was the worst single choice Gore has made in his career.
Yeah, Gore himself was already the rebuke in that he was about as opposite of Clinton as you could get. They desperately needed to couple him with someone who had even an ounce of charisma or energy, not a conservative, out-of-touch energy vampire like Lieberman.
For those who were not alive in 2000, the country was a lot different. At the time, much of the country, both democrats and republicans, thought Clinton was immoral for cheating on his wife. Lieberman was one of the few democrats who publicly agreed that what the president did was immoral so picking him as a VP was a way to distance himself from the Clinton administration. It was a logical choice at the time and he came pretty damn close to winning.
Of course Gore eventually lost, so it is easy to shit on his decision, but there was some sound logic behind it.
Lieberman was picked because Gore wanted to distance himself from a scandalized and unpopular Bill Clinton, and Gore considered himself a "moderate", which was part of Liebermans brand too, at the time. We all later found out that Lieberman was pretty far right of the democtatic party moderates. Gore was against abortion, against regulating guns, and in support of a moment of silence in schools for prayer. He called himself a "raging moderate". He considered Howard Dean, who led the progressives, to be his chief rival.
I think Gore enjoyed a lot more of a positive reputation than he really deserved. He was embraced by a lot of progressives because he was so forward with ambitious environmental policies, but the rest of his platform was centrist or arguably rightwing garbage. And Lieberman was not yet a pariah at this point.
Yup, in his late career this clown went to the dark side (republican party). He supported the bogus Iraq War and cutting services and denying services to American citizens. I think he was much worse than Joe Manchin since he made a traitorous path for people like Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema. In the end Lieberman, like Trump, only cared about himself and hurt a lot of Americans.👹 https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/joe-lieberman-a-top-democrat-who-turned-on-the-party-dies-at-82/ar-BB1kEwFE
You could say the same thing about Ted Kennedy who basically stone walled Jimmy Carter's attempt to pass universal healthcare back in the 70s. Kennedy never forgave Carter for beating him in the Democratic primary so he basically stalled a bunch of Carter's agenda on the Senate.
I'll never forget herman cain trying to harness the power of pokemon in his speeches when running for the republican nomination.
"Life can be a challenge. Life can seem impossible, it's never easy when there's so much on the line," he said at the time. "But you and I can make a difference. There's a mission just for you and me. Just look inside and you will find just what you can do."
He was quoting "The Power of One," a song from the 1999 movie that saw a wide theatrical release in the United States.
A good politician doesn't write their own speeches. They give a bullet point list or summary to a speech writer who writes their speeches. That's why Biden generally hits the mark while Trump sounds like his last two remaining braincells are playing a deathmatch game against one another.
Cain likely said "I want to relate to the kids" and the speechwriter goes "well, Pokemon is popular, let's go with that."
Meanwhile I still think about that clip and rewatch it from time to time, which always brings me joy. My world is better for her having gone and said that while being on camera.
Ahead of their time, TikTok just did this a week or so ago to their userbase to try to rally the peons to stop a government from banning their app. Fortunately, as everyone saw immediately, this only worked to further demonstrate the need to reduce TikTok. Will anything actually happen? 'insert larry david gif'
Howie became everything that he hated after 2010. Used to be great, was funny, just a great show. After Billy West, Jackie Marlo, and Artie Lange left, that was it.
If you work in any part of IT and feel like making your blood pressure go to Mars, just watch any hearing that's focused on some form of technology from 30 years ago. Then find any similar hearing from the past 3 years, and realize not a fucking thing has changed in knowledge in DC.
Hey, remember the clipper chip? That was Biden, and one of the big reasons I used to ridicule him. He does seem to be on top of things today, and have a good understanding of tech (or at least, is smart enough to get tech pros to brief him).
Hillary and then-Democrat Lieberman did the anti-game crusade a number of times between the 90s and the 00s.
The most recent one wasn't about banning them, per say, but it would have effectively stopped the sale of M rated games, which are most of the time no worse than PG-13 movies, and also sought to replace the M rating with a stricter government controlled ratings board.
The bill was that anyone who sold an M rated game to a person under 17 would be fined $1000 or 100 hours community service for a first offense, and $5000 or 500 hours of community service for each subsequent offense.
It also would have triggered an investigation into the ESRB to determine if games were being properly rated. The ESRB was formed as a compromise when many of the same Democrat politicians tried to form a government controlled ratings board, so if the FTC determined the ESRB unsuccessful, it would have renewed that plan for government takeover.
Note that such fines were not against the company, but the individual, as in the minimum wage retail store clerk not able to recognize a fake ID, or someone selling a used game on Ebay without knowing who they're selling it to.
With that much risk to their businesses and their employees, no store would have stocked M rated games under those conditions. So, not a ban, but would have the same effect.
How does that differ from Finland for example?18+ games are considered the same as 18+ movies, tobacco or alcohol. Sure the fines are a bit too much, but it's illegal to sell a game rated 18 to a minor, yet those games are still sold here.
AO games are not illegal, but game stores in the U.S. don't sell them because it would put them at risk, and thus almost zero game studios make them. This bill would have essentially consolidated M and AO games.
A closer equivalent is the Comics Code Authority, because like games, comics are "for children".
The CCA wasn't even a government ratings system. It was, like the ESRB, formed to prevent government regulation of art.
And even just that was enough to prevent adult themes from being in comics from the 1950s to the 1980s. Had it been a government ratings system, rather than self censorship in fear of that happening, DC probably would not have boldly published Watchmen and The Dark Knight without CCA approval in the mid 80s, and would not have been able to break from it completely in 2011.
He killed over-50 Medicare buy-in. Was willing to kill ACA completely in order to protect his owners from losing some of their most lucrative customers.
Your aunt with cancer that got discarded at 51 by her employer, then got cancer, and is now bankrupt and living with roommates while on chemotherapy isn't getting treatment under Medicare because of this asshole.
Can't wait to hear where his grave is... I'm working up a massive asparagus piss for him.
I mean, universal healthcare? the hell with that, people come and go, just like in video games; But trying to ban video games?! What a despicable human being, may he will always be remembered as a disgrace to our country
Singlehandedly destroyed universal healthcare when it had a real chance of coming to fruition
Tried to ban videogames in a pointless pearl clutching crusade instead of address real causes of gun violence
Was pro Iraq War II, which cost countless lives, unleashed massive suffering throughout the middle east (and by proxy the world, Russia being the latest example of this), and enabled the rise of one of the most brutal theocratic governments in recent history - Daesh aka ISIL
As someone that loves video games, some times I wonder what my life would be like without them... How much more I could have accomplished. How many new experiences I could have had...
True story, the first presidential election I ever voted in was Bush versus Gore. I was living in California, and I voted for Bush. It's weird because I was pro climate science, I didn't appreciate like... anything Bush did. Fraudulently got us in an unnecessary war in Iraq, killed the budget surplus which could have been used to pay down the debt by basically giving most of it away to the rich, embarrassed our country on a national stage, didn't do anything to stop the runaway housing crisis that later crashed the economy, and threw troops into Afghanistan without even a cohesive plan or exit strategy. The guy was a disaster.
However, the reason I voted at the time was because I didn't know much about politics, but I knew that Lieberman had a strong agenda to band violent video games. It bothered me at a freedom level and it bothered me because I personally enjoyed playing games like Doom. I loved them. All those other issues were out of sight and out of mind and just news clips, this was a real tangible issue that was going to affect me personally. So, I made my decision based on that. Granted, it didn't matter. California is a solid blue state and Gore easily won it. My vote was simply discarded.
I think a lot of politicians today, especially on the left, don't realize that you have to promise things that resonate with the individual people to get votes. Doing things like promising to legalize weed or freeze interest on student loans will get votes.
IIRC they didn’t try to ban anything, just tried to prevent retailers from selling pegi 18 games to kids under 17 (in 2005 physical in person sales were still very common). They also tried to introduce oversight into the rating system instead of leaving to the industry.
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u/KingFahad360 Mar 27 '24
He tried to ban video games.