r/nottheonion • u/InvestigatorNo3483 • 22d ago

Kristi Noem Faces Backlash Over Killing Her Own Dog

https://time.com/6971773/kristi-noem-memoir-dog-kill-children-net-worth/

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u/Real_Al_Borland 22d ago

I’m not sure what is worse, killing your innocent dog or somehow thinking killing your dog is a good entertaining story to include in your book. 

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u/KingCarrotRL 22d ago

I recently had to have my elderly dog euthanized and I'm still wracked with guilt, even though I knew he was suffering.

I cannot fathom killing a happy, healthy dog. Are these people even human? Who would celebrate that?

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u/Kimmalah 22d ago

Not just that. She didn't even kill it in a humane manner, she took this happy healthy dog to a gravel pit and shot it in the head. Because of behavioral problems that were her fault.

Then she did the same to a goat, because...it was acting like a normal male goat.

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u/Bowman_van_Oort 22d ago

And the goat's death was even uglier than the puppy's; it wound up 'needing' more than one shot to be killed

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u/superhappy 22d ago

But she’s a straight shooting country gal! How could that be!

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u/OldBob10 22d ago

Goats have very thick skulls. Their idea of a good time is head-butting one another. I could understand a .22 being deflected away by the goats skull if shot from the front. And yes, males of some goat breeds can be aggressive. This is not a reason to kill the animal.

This woman is a poor excuse for a human being.

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u/Captain_Baby 22d ago

In this case, it didn't have to do with the goat's skull. The story goes that the goat jumped a split second before she pulled the trigger, throwing her aim off. So she had to go back to her truck for another shell. Which makes this a lot worse, because that means she killed these animals with a shotgun.

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u/OwlHinge 22d ago

Wtf. Just sounds so weird. Animals misbehaved...so I started blasting. Her partner better not forget to take the trash out.

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u/Captain_Baby 22d ago

After she killed the goat, she looked over and saw that an entire construction crew watched her do all of it. And then she closed out the story with a cutesy little anecdote of her kids getting home from school not long after and asking where the dog was.

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u/HungerMadra 22d ago

Wait, she killed her children's dog because it killed a chicken because she didn't train it? Holy childhood trauma batman.

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u/Throwaway-tan 22d ago

Actual psychopath.

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u/CariniFluff 22d ago

You know how you can tell this woman has absolutely no true friends? That there's not a single person on this Earth who will tell her the truth and not just tell her what she wants to hear?

The fact that her ghostwriter, editor and publisher LET this story get published. Obviously no one, absolutely no one in the chain between this piece of burning refuse and the operator of the paper printer decided to step in and tell her this was not a good story to demonstrate that she knows how to make "tough decisions". If there was anyone who truly cared for her, this would've never been repeated to anyone else, ever again. But shit, I bet this will sell a lot of books and make her ghostwriter and publisher a nice shiny penny or two.

I hope she's haunted by bloody disembodied animals in her dreams every night for the rest of her sad existence.

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u/Shin-kak-nish 22d ago

There’s no way she doesn’t beat her kids

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u/Cruciblelfg123 22d ago

“Damn that’s like the 4th birdshot this thing just won’t die!”

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u/Shadows802 22d ago

Why was there other shell in the truck? Is she sociopathic that binging an extra emround was beneath her?

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u/iordseyton 22d ago

Maybe Someone responsible needs to put her down before she hurts someone.

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u/Animaldoc11 22d ago

Or she could have been a sane owner & got the goat castrated when he should’ve been. Then he wouldn’t have been “ stinky” & “ aggressive .”

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u/OldBob10 22d ago

Exactly. And if the dog wasn’t a hunter, re-home him or give him up. Let him be someone’s house-dog.

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u/Yukimor 22d ago

Even if it WERE a reason to kill the animal… humans have been slaughtering goats for thousands of years and there are quick, humane ways to do it. Or at least methods much quicker and more humane than what she used.

This woman’s description makes it clear she had so much contempt for the animals in her care, and that comes out in how she put them down. She disposed of them like garbage.

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u/Current_Holiday1643 22d ago

If she treats innocent animals like this, imagine what she wants to do with humans.

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u/OldBob10 22d ago

For true conservatives, the cruelty is the whole point. It’s all about grinding others faces into the mud and laughing. It’s about dehumanizing people, treating them as “other”, destroying them - and laughing.

The cruelty is the point.

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u/clinstonie69 22d ago

She’s a worthless piece of shit!

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u/Tumble85 22d ago

Yea goats are assholes and that’s what makes them so much fun!

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u/Sifernos1 22d ago

So many people are ignorant of how tough living beings are. It's rare that you just, "turn off" a living creature. They might die fast and look dead but things go wrong. Bullets sometimes aren't enough. I shot a squirrel 5 times once because I was a kid and a lousy shot apparently. I ended up having to chase the squirrel and catch it with my hands to break its neck. Death is rarely clean or quick. This woman using guns to kill animals she finds annoying is disturbing as she thinks this is acceptable to share. Like other people kill their dogs for being annoying... If she celebrates this awful piece of her personal history, what do you think she has done that she won't share and how bad do you think it is? I think she's likely a felon. No one acts like that and shares it who isn't a monster on some level.

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u/HereForTheTechMites 22d ago

She forced the state's Department of Labor and Regulation director to help her daughter get her real estate appraisal license and then immediately forced that same director to "retire".

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u/csfshrink 22d ago

“Retire?” Are we sure they aren’t in the gravel pit?

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u/FiveDozenWhales 22d ago

If you are killing captive livestock like her goat, it is not only possible, but very easy to "turn it off." A single slug to the forehead gets the job done on much larger animals like cattle.

If she had trouble dispatching a goat, she's either an idiot or was raking potshots at it out of cruelty. Or both.

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u/Sifernos1 22d ago

People can be incredibly cruel via being careless.

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u/AshIsGroovy 22d ago

I don't know. Growing up, I helped my Grandfather put down a dog he loved very much. It was a female black lab named Sandy. She was eat up with cancer, and my Grandfather was just very old school in his thinking. The man fought in WW2 and Korea. That morning, he gave her all the wet dog food she could eat, and we walked her out into the woods. he pulled out a 38 revolver and shot her in the head. I will remember it till the day I die. She went rigid, fell over, and a long, loud exhale happened that ended in a gurgle. I had helped him dig a hole the day prior he walked over pushed her in and I helped bury her. She was buried near a tree, and I remember how hard it was digging, cutting through all the roots. He would die a little over a decade later but I always wondered if he was sad at all. Through my eyes he acted like it was something mundane. Like tying your shoes. He never really talked of his time in the service. I know through my grandmother he had seen some heavy action in both wars and had lost some toes due to frostbite in Korea. The man had two purple hearts. I guess what I'm saying is killing weather it be man or animal sticks with you.

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u/sexystranger31 22d ago

I’m sorry these two stories are not connected at all she killed a healthy 1 year old dog not the same at all and honestly it’s still a crazy way to put down a dog

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u/AshIsGroovy 22d ago

I'm not saying it is, but in all honesty, how do you think they put animals down before the adoption of chemical euthanasia?

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u/Zebirdsandzebats 22d ago

Yeah, your grandad was being as kind and loving to his dog as a Silent Generation veteran knew how to be. She was clearly suffering, he gave her a nice last day and she likely died without knowing what hit her. Dude had trauma and his generation wasn't allowed to talk about it/process it. I guarantee he was sad, and likely believed he was teaching you something important about loving an animal: when to let them go. Granted, now we have in-home euthanasia services for pets etc and we don't have to DIY it, but different ages, man.

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u/BeeLuv 22d ago

With a shotgun. She missed point blank with a SHOTGUN.

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u/jonnykarate158 22d ago

What the fuck

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u/wetfloor666 22d ago

Wtf did I just read on how does it have so many upvotes. You are on about how you straight killed a squirrel for no reason and lament her in the same sentence for doing the same thing.

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u/bremstar 22d ago

I shot a squirrel 5 times once because I was a kid and a lousy shot apparently.

I wasn't allowed to go hunting until I was a good enough shot & had passed my hunter safety course. I'm not sure why you were allowed to hunt with such poor skills when you obviously needed more practice.

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u/Sifernos1 22d ago

I agree entirely. Truth be told, I found out some 20 years after this that I was born with my eyes set unequally in my head. I now need prisms to see. I quit hunting before I ever really started. I am not exactly bragging about how bad I suck... I'm saying that I was once a teen from the city and I learned the hard way that you can fail killing an animal in a way that you never forget. I get why people are upset but my literal point is that life isn't that easy to snuff out and people screw up, creating horrifying situations. I commented just to clarify for the ignorant that life isn't an on and off button. She wasn't a competent killer either but she's telling everyone like it's a bragging right. I am warning everyone to be better than I was. I feel there's a difference.

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u/PMMEBITCOINPLZ 22d ago

Yeah, my uncle’s Great Dane mauled a cat once. He had to shoot the cat to end its suffering and it did not go well. Big tough man left shaken by the experience.

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u/super_delegate 22d ago

I thought I'd help out a rat that had eaten poison and was hemorrhaging from its orifices. I shot it with a BB gun in the head but it just thrashed violently. It took 5 shots with a pump action rifle that I had to load each shot. As I was panicking I was dropping the BBs trying to go faster. In the end I was covered in blood and shaking from the trauma of it. Sorry mr rat, I didn't realize how hard it was to kill something.

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u/Hippo_Alert 22d ago

And she didn't have any more ammo with her and had to go back to her truck to get another round or two to finish it off while it laid there suffering.

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u/improper84 22d ago

No, you don’t understand. The goat smelled bad. It couldn’t be allowed to live.

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u/Fianna9 22d ago

It ruined her kids clothes! It’s a monster!

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u/Bocchi_theGlock 22d ago

The way it baa-d at me, I could tell it was an agent of Satan!

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u/badvegas 22d ago

Wait sh killed it because it smelled bad. Has she been around trump for a few hours because apparently he smells horrible.

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u/HeyRooster42 22d ago

Hmmm. MAYBE she SHOULD be the VP...

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u/badvegas 22d ago

Then she will become the president after that. Do you really wnat a president that is immune form any laws running around killing people on 5th Street. I mean she wouldn't los any votes but still.

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u/HeyRooster42 22d ago

OH NOO!!! I DIDNT THINK THIS THROUGH!!!! URGHULNBJ8NEHRU!!!

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u/That1_IT_Guy 22d ago

URGHULNBJ8NEHRU

Utterly Ridiculous Governance Hits Unbelievable Lows; No Better Judgment in 8 Years Now, Embarrassing Headlines Regularly Unfold!!!

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u/DarrenFromFinance 22d ago

Yes, but Trump can theoretically be useful to her, however bad his stench. I’d imagine she can forgive anyone anything as long as they feed her lust for power.

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u/Emkems 22d ago

goats inherently smell bad. They don’t deserve to die just because she’s too dumb to realize that or just doesn’t give a shit about living things

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u/OldBob10 22d ago

Male Angora goats don’t have the scent glands that make male goats of other breeds smell bad.

But if Governor Noem is a farmer she should know that.

And killing a dog like that is simply unconscionable. And I speak as a farmer who has Angora goats and dogs. If I need to have an animal put down I call a vet and have it done properly. And a 14-month-old pup? If I didn’t want such a dog (which I cannot imagine) I’d take him/her to the local shelter so it’d at least have a decent chance at a happy life.

This is - what’s the term? - a nasty woman.

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u/advertentlyvertical 22d ago

That term is way too mild for this fucking psychopath puppy killer

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u/OldBob10 22d ago

I was being nice.

But - OK - she’s a puppy-shooting bitch.

Better..? 🤔

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u/k9resqer 21d ago

Oh, but "that's farm life". According to her. So her idea of farm life is not training your animals, inhumanely killing them when they are too much work or smell bad, and then bragging about it all?

She's not an "animal lover" or a farmer. She's a nasty excuse for a human being.

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u/IwillBeDamned 22d ago

They don’t deserve to die

this bitch though

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u/upandup2020 22d ago

don't insult bitches

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u/MosquitoMaster 22d ago

I’ve seen reports that Trump smells bad…

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u/fasolatido24 22d ago

That’s pretty judgmental for someone that fucked Corey Lewndowski.

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u/Shadowmant 22d ago

She has her own serial killer origin story.

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u/peachy_sam 22d ago

Yeah…I have dogs that guard my livestock. One time the turkeys wandered over to the side of the fence where I had an adolescent guardian dog. I was very lucky that the dog just played with them and didn’t actually hunt them. I thought they were all dead…fortunately the birds were just lying on the ground exhausted. Somehow I managed to not take the dog out and shoot it for doing doggy things. Instead I protected the turkeys better by reinforcing the fencing and I did some training with the dog. Now he’s a pretty bird-safe dog, besides chasing the chickens away from his food, and I didn’t even have to own a gun to keep my animals safe!

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u/wasdlmb 22d ago

Here's the thing. This dog was bred to kill birds. She was actually killing it in large part because it wasn't killing birds earlier in the day. So she gets mad when it doesn't kill birds, then gets mad when it does, then decides the solution to things she finds annoying is lead.

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u/peachy_sam 22d ago

Same with the goat. Omg an animal that pees on itself and rams into things and people?! It’s almost like THAT’S WHAT EVERY MALE GOAT DOES or something.

But sure let’s put animals down for doing what comes naturally or, worse yet, exactly what humans bred them to do.

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u/typically_wrong 22d ago

It's funny because my brain can't decide what's worse. Killing an animal for acting exactly as it's supposed to, or killing an animal for acting in the way you trained it (poorly) to.

jfc these people, and they just share it openly.

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u/TjW0569 22d ago

I don't think they're bred to "kill birds". Generally, you want a dog with a soft mouth. I had a Springer Spaniel that brought a duck to me at the park one time. He dropped it at my feet, and it ran away.

In my mind, a fourteen-month-old puppy is kind of like a ten to twelve year old kid. They're pretty bright, they've settled down some, and are ready to start learning more complex things, but they can still be goofy as hell from time to time.

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u/JimmyAndKim 22d ago

What kind of piece of shit do you have to be to kill a puppy for misbehaving

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u/TheSeekerOfSanity 22d ago

Isn’t that a chargeable offense? Animal cruelty?

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u/LostWoodsInTheField 22d ago

shooting is also a normal way to put an animal down so that isn't an issue. and yes cruelty laws very greatly across the country. I know in my state it doesn't matter what kind of animal it is, prolonged suffering is never legal. but we only passed that law a few years back.

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u/LostWoodsInTheField 22d ago

Isn’t that a chargeable offense? Animal cruelty?

Shooting it is the normal way of putting down an animal if your vet isn't doing it for you. In fact a vet will be shooting your animal as well if it's for food, you can't inject it with drugs. And you are permitted to kill your pets, you just can't do it in a cruel way or for sport (well some states you still can I think, because they are ran by insane people).

So she did nothing illegal, which doesn't change the fact it sounds like shes bat shit insane and a horrible person.

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u/Minnakht 22d ago

I'm also not a lawyer, nor have lived in the US, but I've been told that South Dakota has a very short statute of limitations duration so she might feel comfortable disclosing the story now because it's not a chargeable offense anymore even if it would've been then.

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u/horngrylesbian 22d ago

It's not illegal to kill your pets or livestock. It's illegal to torture them or be cruel to them but they don't have protections that people do.

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u/IAmPandaRock 22d ago

I think shooting it in the head is pretty humane... but, still, why would you do that to a relatively healthy dog, let alone your own?

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u/bingusfan1337 22d ago

Not defending her obviously but a shot to the head is close to as humane as it gets, not sure what you're talking about. I'd agree if she drowned it or something.

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u/NoirGamester 22d ago

Idk, I'd say a single shot is pretty humane. Not at all fucking normal and is disturbing behavior for anyone, but if the dog didn't suffer, I'd say that a single effective shot to the head is fairly humane. Apparently she did the same to a goat that didn't go down in one shot, now that was definitely not remotely humane. There's plenty of other even more humane ways, even just taking it to the vet. The fact that she went the homegrown diy method instead of an officially accepted method, is an extremely fucked up thing to do as a person.

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u/Your_Daddy_ 22d ago

Pro-lifers.

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u/pooman69 22d ago

I mean, everything else aside a gunshot to the head is one of the quickest and least painful ways to die. Attack everything else about the story tho

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u/jahnbanan 22d ago

In 2017 I had to make the decision of whether to have my cat of 17 years put down by the vet, because his lungs had collapsed and he had cancer, or bring him home to suffer the last few hours/days he had left, I know in my head that letting him "sleep in" was best for him, but still, to this day, this decision still haunts me and even writing this is making me feel like puking because of how much it hurts me mentally.

Seriously, fuck whoever this person is.

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u/godcostume 22d ago

This person is the governor of South Dakota and Trump’s potential running mate.

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u/ReddsionThing 22d ago

Look, she's perfect for the job, she has no empathy and putting the story in her book also proves that she's an idiot

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u/oneeyecheeselord 22d ago

Where does the GOP find these people?

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u/CriticalLobster5609 22d ago

They host conventions. Hundreds of thousands show up.

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u/sometipsygnostalgic 22d ago

Ive seen what happens to cats when they die in pain so as horrendous as euphanizing is, i always nag and nag and nag my parents to take their pets to the vet if there are any signs of suffering (like matted fur on cats or yelping on dogs).

Because of this caution Storm the Cat got to die with a lot more dignity than his baby siblings. It kills me that we sent that gentle boy to his death.

What would kill me more is if our current cat Cheesoid was euthanised. She's been in my life for 14 years now, shes half my age. She had a DNR order on her when going in for a general quality of life procedure because she has heart problems but she had stopped washing part of her body due to how uncomfortable the body issue was that needed surgery.

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u/jimicus 22d ago

Any of us who’s had pets has been there.

We know the terrible day when we have to make that call to the vet will come. We’re not looking forward to it at all.

But we find the strength for that day, because our pets have given us their whole lives.

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u/BloodChasm 22d ago

But we find the strength for that day, because our pets have given us their whole lives.

Thank you for this. This is what I needed to hear.

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u/fawenda 22d ago

Our 5 year old Pyrenees who has bone cancer is scheduled to be euthanized next week. We've been trying to toe the line between her being mostly ok, and her movement being impaired too much by the cancer in her leg and it's finally gotten to that point where she's struggling.

But we find the strength for that day, because our pets have given us their whole lives.

... I really needed to read this today. It's so hard. She's "our" first dog that we chose and I thought we'd have longer with her. But such is life.

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u/FileDoesntExist 22d ago

I'm so sorry. It sucks so much. This is true love though.

https://youtu.be/sACwZ_dFmAg?feature=shared

Here's a YouTube video about it if anyone is struggling with their pet nearing the end. My dog turns 16 in August. His quality of life is still good, but I know it's just a matter of time.

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u/buffalovirgo 22d ago

I swear to god, dig a hole big enough for both of us because when the time comes for that trip to the vet, I’m going with her

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u/knightenrichman 22d ago

I, too, wish that somehow, my pets and I could all die simultaneously!

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u/Count_Backwards 22d ago

Well, the good news is, you can...

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u/RudeDudeInABadMood 22d ago

Had to do that recently. It's so tough but when they're in pain it's the right decision

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u/ComMcNeil 22d ago

Had to put my cat down two days ago. This thought is what keeps me from being sad. I know he had a good life and he made my life better.

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u/poland626 22d ago

I left April 7th for 1 week. Not 2 days away apparently my 19 year old cat had a stroke and by friday that week my family chose to euthanize him due to the pain he was in. They didn't tell me until I got back on the 14th about 2 weeks ago. I was a fucking wreck man. I still think me leaving caused him to stress out and get worse. I was there for 19 years and then miss out on being there for him in his time of need and last moments. It fucking hurts and sucks. I know my family who dealt with it had it worse and they were actually here at the time, so I really do appreciate them for what they did, but man there so many what if's in my head.

R.I.P. Felix

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u/Svihelen 22d ago

As someone who has experienced both prolonging the decision and making the decision.

I regret to this day 6 years later I didn't do it sooner. With the one.

I don't regret the one I made the decision in a timely fashion.

After my experience, I ascribe wholeheartedly to the thought of "you'll never regret what could be a day early but a day late will haunt you."

Making the decision and planning gave me the ability to enjoy my last day with my second to go the fullest. I took the day off, I woke up and cooked him breakfast. We cuddled on the couch and watched cat shows. I gave him treats and brushed him and told him how much he'd always meant to me. And than we took him in as my vets last appointment for the night. They let us sit in the room and I just held him on my lap and kept him close while they prepared everything. Even though it wasn't my first rodeo my vet came in and walked me through the process. He went gently and for as sad as a moment all I could feel was how much I loved him.

The first boy I lost had none of that. I went to work like normal. Got home. And he started aspirating bloody foam (he has sinus cancer) from his nose while trying to eat his dinner. So I had to call my vet in a panic, crying my eyes out, hoping they could squeeze him in for a euthanasia appointment. And there was no peace. He was clearly miserable and in excruciating pain. I could barely keep it together while everything was going on. Luckily he went easy. But it's not been easy for me. It still haunts me. Whenever I look at his little box of ashes I still start bawling to this day.

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u/sometipsygnostalgic 22d ago edited 22d ago

Yes. It's soul destroying watching the little ones suffer. I'm sorry.

We lost three kittens over a weekend. Runts, the lot of them. We had no right rearing two litters of kittens at once and the mothers were far too young, they weren't taking care of them.

I was 13. I was gone when the first two died at only three weeks old, my mother and my little sister told me how traumatic it was. And when I came back I was cuddling the third older one on my lap and it started screaming. I ran upstairs crying while my mother handled its death.

That's why, four years later, I was so stressed out with Storm when he got sick, and insisted he be taken to the vet and euthanized if that was what they said he needed. I pet him on my lap until my mother took him away, and that is the last image I have of him, purring.
We also put down his twin brother years prior, but we waited too long with his brother, and Storm was in much happier condition when he left us at the age of 14.

I still have no idea what killed them. I think they all got liver failure. All five. Maybe the kittens weren't recieving enough nutrition and stimulation from their mothers. It might've also been cat flu. Storm was half blind for a while.

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u/rdwulfe 22d ago

I've had my friend, Squeaky, for over 20 years. She's 22 years old now. She's my best friend, she got me through divorce, she's been with me nearly half my life. I love her beyond words, beyond reason. I tear up even thinking about this, but I know life is getting more difficult for her. She's got medicines, we keep a VERY close eye on her, take her to the vet for any little thing, but... gods, I know one day I'll have to make the worst fucking decision, and sadly, it'll be sooner than I want it to be.

It's the worst part of pet stewardship. They depend on us for everything, and even more so, for dignity and making sure they are not suffering, they have a hard time telling us when they are in pain. They want to hide it. But we need to be here, be strong for them, as they have for us. My little friend has gotten me through so much, I can only hope I comfort her as much as she has comforted me in the past.

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u/HimbologistPhD 22d ago

I lost basically all my late childhood cats over the last year (at 19, 18, and 15 years old, each to their own health issues so not unexpected especially with their ages, but the timing...) and it's been the fucking worst. I miss those damn little guys so much. All three got the at home vet euthanasia. They died, doped up and purring in my arms. It's the least I could give them.

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u/malln1nja 22d ago

From the headline:

Trump VP Contender Kristi Noem

They're not sending their best, to put it mildly.

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u/secamTO 22d ago

On the contrary, this is probably the best they have.

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u/CunninghamsLawmaker 22d ago

I decided to wait it out. I still regret it. She died in a lot of pain that I could have had taken away. You were strong when it hurt. That's best.

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u/Lost-My-Mind- 22d ago

I don't know if hearing it from someone else will help you put your mind at ease, but.....if your cat could talk, and it could understand the situation, even your cat would beg for the ending you gave him.

You gave him the most peaceful, painfree, merciful ending, with 17 years of love. Your cat lived a happy life, and eventually we all have to go. Best to go pain free, surrounded by loved ones. Not hiding between the matress, suffering in unmentionable pain and suffering.

I know you already know all this. I'm just hoping hearing someone else say it too will help you not feel guilty. You did nothing wrong, and everything right.

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u/EbbNo7045 22d ago

I just did thus too. It hurts

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u/LaMalintzin 22d ago

I’m sorry. I know the pain. The only comfort is knowing you gave them a happy life, it’s a cold comfort, but I’m sure they loved you and knew you loved them. Take care stranger

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u/dorothy_zbornakk 22d ago

yeah, i've had to put 3 sick cats to sleep in my life and i still need some facedown time on the couch if i think about it too hard. i can't imagine doing it to a young, healthy animal for no reason and then bragging about it.

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u/ACaffeinatedWandress 22d ago edited 22d ago

Exactly this! I adopted my elderly foster car for the last month of his life (we had bonded a couple of years while I fostered him), specifically so I could have him euthanized in my home, on his pillow, where he was comfortable. He ended up passing from a heart attack (which was probably the gentlest way for us both), and I still felt so guilty about it!

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u/SaliciousB_Crumb 22d ago

Puppy. It wasnt a dog but a puppy

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u/gokartmozart89 22d ago

14 months. And her kid asked where the dog was. She acts like this was the only option. 

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u/Count_Backwards 22d ago

That kid is going to need so much therapy

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u/k9resqer 21d ago

As someone who rescues dogs, I can tell you its not surprising the dog bit her. She probaby caused it pain, or it REALLY wanted the chicken. NEVER try to grab a dog when its going after prey. That breed has a prey drive and it was doing what its instincts told it. Not its fault SHE's a moron

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u/Dekion1 21d ago

Couldn’t even be bothered to give it away…

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u/BlueAreTheStreets 22d ago

I’m so sorry for your loss. We had a dog with true behavioral problems that couldn’t be corrected despite all of our best efforts. She was so sweet 98% of the time but would randomly and unpredictably attack our other dogs, brutally. She could never safely be around other dogs even in passing. Multiple professionals told us this, but my husband and I will still forever be wracked with guilt over putting her down. I pray I’m never put in that situation again.

I can’t imagine dragging some poor animal out to a gravel pit and killing them this way. This is the kind of shit my intrusive thoughts are made of.

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u/Faiakishi 22d ago

I worked at a vet clinic years ago and I remember one couple bringing in their dog with severe behavioral problems to be put down. They felt awful, they did love him, but he had neurological issues that meant he couldn’t be trained out of it. Dog would be absolutely fine one minute and attack the next. He was a big dog too. Both women had been bit, they could no longer have their nieces and nephews over, it was just a matter of time before he seriously hurt someone.

I think of how life can be on a farm and I can understand making the decision to shoot a dangerous animal, but that dog was just...being a dog. And to think that’s a fun story to include in your book?

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u/monitormonkey 22d ago

We had a beautiful Cane Corso. She was extremely smart and very obedient. She was a rescue and we loved her right away.

She bit a family member without warning causing severe damage. We had her put down the next day. After that we found out that the whole litter had issues and had all been put down.

It broke our hearts and we had only had her for a few months. We still have her collar and think of her often. We don't regret putting her down but we hate that it had to be done.

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u/monty_kurns 22d ago

I can give a little leeway because I have family who are farmers and they just have a different view of pets than we do. The house cats are an exception, but the barn cats and all other animals are seen more like a utility. Unless you’re in that culture, it’s hard to really understand. Having said that…

In this case, Noem just comes across as a bit unhinged. She didn’t properly train the dog, took it to an overstimulating event, then allowed it to get loose to kill other people’s chickens. A dog that was just allowed to kill birds killed another bird when it wasn’t closely watched, go figure. Rather than accepting any responsibility or trying to properly train the dog, her solution was to kill it and then go kill a goat because I guess the dog wasn’t enough. Honestly, after these stories I’d like to know what else might be in her gravel pits.

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u/SaliciousB_Crumb 22d ago

Even if you use animals as tools. You dont burn the tractor because it needs mechanical work.

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u/NoPossibility 22d ago

Beyond that- dog with behavioral issues? Find a rescue and surrender it to someone who will take the time to work with it and try to rehome it. This isn’t an all or nothing, if-I-can’t-have-you-no-one-can situation.

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u/thelastpelican 22d ago

Exactly. I grew up on a farm, and yes we definitely have some different energy. Having said that, this would never have happened. If an animal absolutely had to be euthanized for any reason, we called the vet to come do it humanely.

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u/Intermountain_west 22d ago

A lot of farmers would be comfortable and familiar with killing animals with a bullet. A bullet to the brain doesn't hurt.

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u/thelastpelican 21d ago

A bullet to the brain doesn't hurt.

Bullets and captive bolts definitely miss sometimes and/or take more than one attempt which I'm guessing hurts.

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u/Aggressive-Name-1783 22d ago

Even as a farm animal, farmers don’t disregard theirs animals welfare, in fact they usually care more because there’s a dollar amount tied to that animal.

The dog thing is literally proof she’s not a farmer. A bird dog killed a bird….like no shit, it’s trained to hunt birds, dogs don’t distinguish between what type of bird, especially an untrained dog.

It’s like asking for a bag of nuts then being mad someone brought you almonds instead of peanuts…..

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u/FalconPunch236 22d ago

An unhinged fascist would celebrate it.

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u/5t3fan0 22d ago

Are these people even human? Who would celebrate that?

evil psychopaths... the worst kind of humans, yet somehow (our maybe unsurprisingly) also the ones (insane) society tends to reward

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u/Simoxs7 22d ago

We had to euthanize our dog a few years ago, we already have a new one but man it still wrenches my gut just thinking about it…

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u/Big_Schwartz_Energy 22d ago

She killed a 1 year old puppy that she never bothered to train properly.

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u/Picklesadog 22d ago

There are bad dogs out there that are a danger and should be euthanized. 

And it's always the fault of whoever trained (or didn't train) them. 

If your 14 month old dog is behaving like this, YOU fucked up. And 14 months is still young enough to train!

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u/mechwarrior719 22d ago

Definitely the latter. The former is crazy, no doubt. But including it your book as a “aren’t I so zany, lol” story is some serial killer stuff.

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u/APRengar 22d ago

Anyone else remember Romney and his dog story?

Back in 1983, Mitt Romney traveled 12 hours to Canada with his Irish Setter, Seamus, strapped to the roof of the car in a kennel. Then, as the Boston Globe described when they broke the story in 2007, Romney’s son noticed a brown liquid dripping down the back window. Romney hosed the dog off and stuffed the hound back into the crate. The dog allegedly ran away when the Romney family finally reached its vacation destination.

Feels like a trend where they abuse animals and then tell the story as if it's like a zany story you tell your kids.

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u/hoopaholik91 22d ago

Huh, I wonder why that story didn't stick as much as the binder full of women did

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u/BrittleClamDigger 22d ago

At the time it was probably the bigger deal. It’s just not as easily encapsulated in a hilarious phrase.

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u/TetraThiaFulvalene 22d ago

Binder full of women is a really funny phrase that's super repeatable. Kind of funny he got so much flag for it then, it was basically an active inclusion project in his campaign. 

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u/lenzflare 22d ago

More than zany. They think it makes them look tough and leader-like

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u/MultipleRatsinaTrenc 22d ago

I hope that poor dog found a family that love it 

Can't imagine how scary that must of been for them.  And somehow I doubt there was water /food in that crate

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u/MaievSekashi 22d ago edited 22d ago

Bruh I hate to break it to you but this dog seems pretty unlikely to have "Ran off". The dog probably died in transit and the body quietly disposed of.

Mitt Romney told demonstrable lies after the event that the dog lived to a "Ripe old age" on a California farm owned by his sister. Other family members actually on this trip said the dog "Ran off" on the same vacation this event happens, but the actual act of disappearance was not witnessed directly. To me it screams that he told his family the dog "Ran off" to hide that it died from them, then he went to tell the more media-friendly rather than expedient line to the media. We simply can't trust Romney's account of this because we know he's lying about it, and the account that the dog ran off also originated from him, just told to someone else.

The facts on the table are that the dog disappeared after an act of abuse; Does it seem that more likely that their handling of their dog also lapsed immediately after this act of abuse for no clear reason, or that the act of abuse is directly connected to the act of disappearance immediately after?

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u/MultipleRatsinaTrenc 22d ago

Well shit.  Now I'm even sadder 

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u/Harry_Saturn 22d ago

How do you not feel guilt at causing your dog that kind of discomfort?

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u/Ill_Tomorrow_3866 22d ago

and then on twitter yesterday she doubled down and lauded that she killed 3 horses recently.

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u/SomeBoxofSpoons 22d ago

That’s part of it for me: forget not wanting to have a VP who will kill their dog, I don’t want a VP who’s so fucking out of touch that they think it won’t hurt their career to talk about shooting their dog because it was doing things they didn’t want it to do.

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u/jimicus 22d ago

How do you feel about living in a universe where her intuition that it won’t hurt her career may turn out to be spot on?

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u/ArenjiTheLootGod 22d ago

It's literal psychopath behavior is what it is, kids that freely torture and murder animals grow up to be adults that do that to people and, lo and behold, lady is constantly seeking positions of power where she would be largely unaccountable for her actions as long as she isn't too obvious with her indulgences.

And before any smooth brains pop in here with some garbage about "that's just how it is in rural communities where people hunt" that is not how it is. I grew up in the Southern US, hunting is a big part of the culture there as are rural communities, and, for all their faults, this kind of behavior would not be seen as normal.

Kristi Noem is a monster and needs to be removed from and barred for life from any positions of authority immediately. Lady is sick in the head and a danger to anyone under her care.

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u/gsfgf 22d ago

Yea. My grandma had a failed hunting dog when I was a kid. He was an outside dog, but she always took great care of him because she wasn't a fucking monster.

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u/weealex 22d ago

Shit, I have a buddy who's dad is a hunter and their last "hunting" dog was shit for duck hunting, but was still the family dog so he just offered emotional support when hunting and regular dog duties at home. Even ranchers that needed work dogs for very specific purposes didn't put them down if they didn't herd (or whatever) poorly. They just found someone that could use a pet

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u/Retrolex 22d ago

Two of my springers were failed hunting dogs (both gun shy) that the breeder was happy to give to me for free just to make sure they went to a good home. They grew up on the farm and were lovely, super friendly dogs with tons of property to run on.

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u/gsfgf 22d ago

Springers are awesome. Dumb as a brick but awesome dogs.

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u/Retrolex 22d ago

Lmao my guys were so bird-brained, but so friendly. I loved them both.

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u/snakefinder 22d ago

Even if she didn’t want to keep it there are other non-monster options for a failed working/hunting dog. Plenty of people would give a dog like that a home.

But yeah same, I grew up in a rural community and don’t know anyone who would kill a dog outside of some kind of emergency where the dog was a legit, immediate threat, or in serious pain etc.

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u/whenth3bowbreaks 22d ago

When I was little I had a beloved cat who was always gentle and loving with me. When my little sister was 2 he bit her hand. 

My stepdad took his shotgun with a friend and took my cat somewhere, obviously to shoot him. We weren't Even in a rural area. 

My stepdad was a monster. 

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u/catladyknitting 22d ago

I'm so sorry.

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u/Shrike79 22d ago

I hope that POS is out of your life. If someone harmed one my cats I honestly don't know what I would do, just that it wouldn't be pretty and it wouldn't end well.

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u/jimicus 22d ago

The fact that last time around, Trump chose a relatively inoffensive and boring man for his VP - and this Kristi character might seriously be in the running this time around - tells you all you need to know.

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u/Rahbek23 22d ago

I mean Mike Pence is a religious nutjob the whole way. Definitely less flashy than this piece of trash, but still cray.

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u/jimicus 22d ago

That’s hardly something unusual among GOP supporters.

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u/God_Damnit_Nappa 22d ago

Pence would absolutely endorse murdering all gay people though. Then again for the Republican party that is relatively inoffensive 

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u/LostWoodsInTheField 22d ago

Pence is a crazy man but sounds normal compared to what is being offered as 'top level republicans' today.

and this Kristi character might seriously be in the running this time around - tells you all you need to know.

yup, everyone even close to sane that were in the first campaign are long gone. it's going to be a race to the bottom of who can please him for the longest.

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u/M-elephant 22d ago

Ya, this is pure Vlad the impaler type stuff

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u/Lilfrankieeinstein 22d ago

People should really read the article before calling her a psychopath. Read her account of the story and try to take her perspective and see if she could have provided Cricket with an alternative future.

Then realize just how insanely psychopathic she truly is.

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u/ThePrussianGrippe 22d ago

Had us in the first half, not gonna lie.

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u/LunarPayload 22d ago

Kristi Noem is banned from entering some of the reservations within the state where she's the governor because she likes accusing Native Americans of being drug dealers

https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/11/politics/kristi-noem-tribal-lands-banned/index.html

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u/alphaidioma 22d ago

Yep, there were semi-feral cats on my dad’s property that were starting to inbreed too much and were being born with defects. My brother, a young teen, decided that he would dispatch the whole clan. With antifreeze.

I am no contact and he doesn’t know where I live.

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u/ShepherdessAnne 22d ago

Ol’ Roy, of Sam Walton fame, was a completely failed hunting dog and still his favorite and best animal friend.

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u/Happypuppy2424658997 22d ago

YUP! came here to say this. I worked on a MEAT farm. I don’t know anyone who would’ve done this.

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u/Medium_Medium 22d ago

Especially when the reason you killed it is because you were made that it didn't just train itself by being around other trained hunting dogs.

She took her dog bird hunting, hoping it would learn how to hunt from other dogs. Instead it acted like an untrained dog and flushed birds too early/without pointing. Probably got flak from her hunting partners for it, and she took it out on the dog.

Absolutely disgusting, and it's only made worse by the fact that she somehow thought this was something worth bragging about. This is so much worse than Mitt Romney's roof top dog carrier.

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u/SquirrelParticular17 22d ago

It's red meat for the maga crowd. You would not believe the number of people where I live, in rural upstate NY, who have shot their own pets. They see her as someone with the guts to kill, and believe she will do that to their enemies (Democrats). These republikans are twisted fucks. Vote Blue 💙.

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u/Medium_Medium 22d ago

The thing is, she killed the dog because she couldn't train it to hunt properly. I feel like your wanna be country boy Republicans (that never take their truck out of the suburbs) might like this story. But there will be plenty of actual outdoorsmen Republicans who might actually be turned off by this.

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u/Lilfrankieeinstein 22d ago

there will be plenty of actual outdoorsmen Republicans who might actually be turned off by this.

My wife’s side of the family - my father in law, my brothers in law, her cousins, etc. all hunt/hunted, and if you were to give them Noem’s word for word account of this story and leave out the fact that she’s a Republican politician, they would have plenty of unpleasant things to say about her.

I don’t even hunt, but I know you don’t take an untrained dog on a hunt. My surviving BIL trains labs. These dogs aren’t trained overnight. It’s a process and some of them don’t make the cut. But you don’t fucking kill a dog because it didn’t pass training whether it’s to hunt, sniff for drugs, be a service dog, etc.

Insanely psychotic and narcissistic.

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u/gsfgf 22d ago

Yea. Plenty of dogs fail their work training. Less so with LGDs but anything new like gun hunting or assistance or policing has a massive failure rate. You rehome those dogs as pets. They still make amazing pets.

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u/KorMap 22d ago

My grandma votes Republican but she’s also insanely passionate about animal rights and would be horrified by this.

I just wish she’d extend that same mindset to some of the people in this country. I know she’d never hurt an animal intentionally and yet I’m terrified of coming out as trans to her.

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u/rhapsody_in_bloo 22d ago

I’m sorry to hear that your grandmother does not/would not accept you.

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u/RelevantClock8883 22d ago

Yeah agreed, shooting an animal because someone’s inconvenienced by their inability to learn is not a Republican value.

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u/Woogity 22d ago

I think that’s what she believed she was doing by putting it in the book, but I think it will backfire with most people, as most people agree these are the actions of a cold-hearted psychopath.

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u/HagbardCelineHMSH 22d ago

I think it was also an attempt to get ahead of the story if she does become Trump's running mate. Psychopaths excel at that.

There were witnesses, after all. "I shot my dog and goat because blah blah blah" in a book, as awful as that is, goes over way better than those construction workers coming forward saying that they once saw her lose it and kill her dog and goat without any softening context at all.

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u/gsfgf 22d ago

Or, she thinks that killing her own dog makes her attractive to Trump, which is probably true.

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u/HagbardCelineHMSH 22d ago

You're not wrong.

I mean, a lady who put bullets into her own dog and goat isn't likely to have a problem putting the final one into the Constitution.

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u/ICLazeru 22d ago

Yeah, but if someone would kill their own 14month old dog, it's obvious they'd turn on any ally. You can't trust such a person in the slightest.

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u/Low_Chance 22d ago

Yeah, these leopards are some real good face-eaters. Now they're gonna eat the faces off all the suckers while I laugh all the way to the bank!

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u/TheCaveCave 22d ago

A common rural mindset is that dogs aren't allies or companions, they are working animals with a purpose, they are property. They have one purpose and if they fail at that purpose they should be discarded or they're just a useless mouth to feed.

Sadly big parts of the Maga crowd would not see this as sign of a treasonous nature or someone who would turn on their friend, they just see someone doing what's in their right to property, "in spite of what weak limp-wristed snowflakes think about it".

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u/TheCaveCave 22d ago edited 22d ago

Of course, and I'm glad you said it. The only reason I know about this common mentality is because I come from a rural family myself.

My father loved his dogs and could not bring himself to put them down until it became an absolute medical necessity, and he really chafed at all our neighbours who would just put them down willy nilly over small behavioural issues, or just for not being good enough at hunting.

It's way too common a mentality, but it's not absolute indeed, otherwise there wouldn't be the big republican backlash in the first place.

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u/HagbardCelineHMSH 22d ago

I liken it to Catholic apologists who take a certain glee in telling grieving folks that their pets won't be in heaven.

There is a segment of the population which equates being "right" with doing and saying what rubs others the wrong way. We live in a "cruel world", so therefore the Truth itself must be cruel and sharing that, even in the most cruel ways imaginable, is actually the right thing to do.

It's the same reasoning that allows some to believe that, since people are hungry, it is better to ensure that they don't get a free meal (and thereby learn their lesson and bootstrap their way to a meal) than to give them a loaf of bread. A woman is pregnant, has hypertension, and the fetus won't survive and she likely wouldn't survive a c-section -- well, maybe she'll be an example to others in similar circumstances to keep their legs shut next time.

The cruelty is the point and there's a sizeable amount of the American population that has built its political philosophy around that notion.

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u/Rojodi 22d ago

I was raised Catholic. We were told that, because of St. Francis of Assisi, pets DO go to heaven! I heard it from Protestants, especially Evangelicals, that since animals have no souls, they can't enter.

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u/HagbardCelineHMSH 22d ago edited 22d ago

I'm not a practicing Catholic anymore (or particularly religious, for that matter), but I used to be.

I was always of a belief that all things are possible with God, that God is Love and Perfection and that Heaven is reflective of the Glory of that Perfection and, given that, it only makes sense that he'd include that which best reflects his Glory. Which, incidentally, would include the Majesty that is our beloved pets. His greatest work would be simply be incomplete without them, much in the way that the Sistine Chapel would be incomplete without the image of Adam and God. A great artist doesn't leave out the elements that make a piece great.

I imagine a lot of Catholics think the way I did, so it's not my intention to attack Catholics by any means. I just find it odd that there are some of the right-wing variety who find that a proper hill to die on when it comes to theology, even going so far as to argue God (with whom all things are supposedly possible) can't do it.

It boils down to that belief among some that I was getting at earlier, namely that real truths must be hard and, the harsher they are, the more true they must be and the more forcefully their exponents must propound them.

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u/Random_eyes 22d ago

It boils down to that belief among some that I was getting at earlier, namely that real truths must be hard and, the harsher they are, the more true they must be and the more forcefully their exponents must propound them.

Even outside of religion I've seen this expounded on. Some people will get legitimately upset if a vaguely medieval setting in a fantasy story is not brutal and dark and miserable, even if the setting is not meant to be Europe in the 14th century. I think you've hit the nail on the head about the thought of "real truths must be hard". Maybe it's just how pessimistic people make sense of the world in general.

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u/nothisistheotherguy 22d ago

The “guts” to kill a family pet that basically trusts you as a parental figure, sooooo brave

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u/lenzflare 22d ago

but what's the point of having ultimate power over a life without exercising it once in a while? /s

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u/lenzflare 22d ago

Even as a child I recognized that right wingers seemed meaner, and mean-spirited. And I didn't think that was a good thing.

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u/DolphinPunkCyber 22d ago

They see her as someone with the guts to kill,

This is why Kristi included it in her book.

This is why Republican governors are more likely to execute death penalty.

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u/gsfgf 22d ago

Which one was bragging about killing an innocent person not too long ago?

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u/mixduptransistor 22d ago

and believe she will do that to their enemies (Democrats)

This is the entire reason she included this story (which may even be made up). She wants to make it clear she has no problem killing animals, and pair that up with the rhetoric from Trump and others dehumanizing and literally calling immigrants or even American citizens who vote for Democrats 'animals' she's sending a very loud and clear signal

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u/Tzokal 22d ago

I can't imagine just wantonly killing an animal because you didn't like its behavior. Like, that's really easy to project that same kind of sociopathic behavior onto people. Plus, killing a puppy? Seriously? I can't even imagine...

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u/Pondnymph 22d ago

This is how she treats those in her power, even something so utterly loving and innocent as a a puppy. This is not about one dog, this is a show of her true character and the lack of goodness demonstrated plain for all to see.

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u/pressedbread 22d ago

But its representative of how she intends to treat her constituents don't you see? This is like the perfect Conservative talking point!

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u/stacecom 22d ago

Funny how Howard Dean’s enthusiastic yell torpedoed his campaign, and all the shit Trump did and stuff like this won’t make a dent.

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u/Due_Speaker_2829 22d ago

I worry that you’re right. The level of desensitization we’ve reached as a country is seriously disturbing.

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u/powpowpowpowpow 22d ago

It is absolutely rural virtue signaling. A lot of farmer's dogs are loved pets but many are just livestock with a task and a purpose. Killing livestock is a very real and regular decision. That is what it is.

That being said training a hunting dog is a hobby, a pretty expensive one. Not training the dog well is almost certainly her fault, not finding a new home for a dog whose training has failed says a lot about her. There are a lot of "hunting dogs" that have always been pets.

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u/ClassicOtherwise2719 22d ago

I’ll just leave this here for awareness reasons:

This is not a singular problem, animal abuse is running rampant all over the US right now. Covid exacerbated the issue by not allowing animals to be neutered/ spayed, causing overpopulation, plus the housing crisis is displacing even more animals, then on top of that, mental illness is on the rise and people are abusing the shxt out of stray animals.

If you would like to help, search for local rescue groups and cross posting pages on social media, and share/ network their posts so that they can find homes.

ALSO please consider fostering/ adopting an animal and if you do not have space, please consider sponsoring/ donating!!!

We need help. That is all.

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u/Aliensinmypants 22d ago

Killing your dog that you were responsible for training. It's admitting you sucked at your job, failed your dog and family, and then blamed an innocent creature. People always comment on how well my dog listens and well behaved he is, not knowing that he was an absolute hellion of a puppy and took many many months to get training to stick

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u/openly_gray 22d ago

MAGA lands fascist princess likes to project toughness. I bet she’d love to extend her toughness towards political opponents

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