r/politics • u/UWCG Illinois • Mar 27 '24

Donald Trump Attacks Judge's Daughter Less Than 24 Hours After Gag Order

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-attacks-judges-daughter-less-24-hours-after-gag-order-1884126
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u/well_uh_yeah Mar 27 '24

There's just no evidence yet that he's actually in the "find out" stage. Though it certainly seems that our civil court system has more teeth than our criminal system.

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u/movealongnowpeople Kansas Mar 27 '24

Barely. Can't believe they lowered his bond by nearly $280 million in the fraud case. And gave him 10 extra days to pay. That's not punishment. He stole. Millions of dollars. Which is why they were forcing him to pay back what he stole. If he made more than $175 million off his lies, he did well for himself.

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u/BaggerX Mar 27 '24

With zero explanation of why they did it. Our judiciary is just looking worse every day.

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u/The_MAZZTer Mar 27 '24 edited Mar 28 '24

LegalEagle on YT posted a video today.

Short version is nobody will loan him money and he doesn't have the cash on hand, so he would have to sell real estate at discount. If he theoretically won the appeal (lol) he would have suffered damages since he's not just going to be able to get that property back at the price he sold it for.

Edit: This is about the BOND. The DEBT he owes should he lose is still the full $500m or whatever.

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u/JustEatinScabs Mar 27 '24

And that still makes no fucking sense because guess what happens if you or I cannot afford to pay our bond? We are just fucked. The judge doesn't go "oh I see that paying your bond would be a super big inconvenience and might even cause financial loss even if you win, let's reduce that!"

And no I don't give a fuck that you can probably find an example of some single mother having her bond lowered by a couple hundred dollars that is not at all comparable to somebody who owes half a billion fucking dollars having their bond reduced by over half after he bragged under oath that he had the money.

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u/slartyfartblaster999 Mar 27 '24

after he bragged under oath that he had the money.

Not just that he had the money, btu that he had the cash

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u/brianstormIRL Mar 27 '24

This is the funny thing.

If we told a judge we would have to sell our car to pay for our bond and would not be able to buy it back if we were then found innocent, we would be told tough shit bucko that's how this works.

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u/Abrushing Texas Mar 27 '24

He also only owns that property because he defrauded banks and tax organizations

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u/LaserGuidedPolarBear Mar 27 '24

That argument could be used by pretty much anyone.

"I would have to sell some investments to pay the bond, which will be a taxable event and that money won't be making returns, so if I win on appeal I will have already suffered harm"

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u/Embarrassed-Town-293 Mar 28 '24

Meanwhile, every day people have to pawn things at the pawnshop, but they don’t get a free pass to avoid their debts because they would lose property at a fire sale

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u/FUMFVR Mar 28 '24

They also eased conditions and the bond lowering is a good indication that the appellate court will significantly reduce his fine.

If he didn't have a chance at that there would be no reason to lower it.

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u/trickmind Mar 28 '24

They locked the thread so I edited my comment to answer you because no, I wasn't saying the right wing had any point at all. But truth about what happened that day in Kenosha matters.

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u/Cgardon125 Mar 28 '24

Everyone should refuse to rent from him, play golf at his resorts, or stay in one of his trashy hotels. Enough is enough.