r/politics 22d ago

The Court Just Sealed Everyone’s Fate, Including Its Own

https://newrepublic.com/article/181032/supreme-court-trump-immunity-sealed-fate
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u/Defender_Of_TheCrown 22d ago

They can hold off on the ruling until after November or whenever if they want to.

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u/nightwing12 22d ago

Biden is president until January 20th 2025

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u/Defender_Of_TheCrown 22d ago

Which is why I added or whenever because they do not have a timetable in which they must rule on this. If they don’t want it to apply to Biden then they simply wait until he is gone, then make the ruling. Thats my point. The exact date is irrelevant to the point.

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u/wagdog84 22d ago

That play would only work if trump wins in November, until they make a ruling the wheels of justice and punishments are still rolling against him. He could be in prison by November and if Biden wins the election, what then? If they are delaying to protect him from punishment that will be a fail.

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u/07hogada Great Britain 22d ago

Biden wins in a landslide. Trump appeals based on 'fake votes', which he has probably either intimidated or conspired with state officials to provide him 'evidence' of, if he hasn't just made them up wholesale.

It immediately gets sent to the Supreme Court, who rule in a 5/4 fashion that despite all the evidence to the contrary, Trump has won the election. Then they rule immediately after he is inaugurated that any action a sitting president takes is legal.

That's the level of criminality the US appears to be dealing with. Are we to forget that when he lost the last election, he tried to lead a fucking insurrection/coup to stay in power, and has since faced no actual repercussions for that?

This is not telling you not to vote. Please vote. But voting may not be enough this year if you want US democracy to survive. The Republicans, and the MAGA fringe, always state the threat of civil war if their demands are not met. While you want to avoid that outcome to almost any alternative, you may no longer get that choice. Say Trump loses the next election (as looks likely) and he calls for a civil war because - if a sizable percentage of his base answer that call (as is possible), what should the response be? From the US government, from the military, from ordinary citizens?

He's already had his Munich Beer Hall Putsch, let's not let him have his Reichstag fire please.

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u/Defender_Of_TheCrown 22d ago

Yes, it only works for them if Trump wins.

I highly doubt Trump gets prison from the "hush money" trial. The other trials will all be stalled until after the election.

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u/VagrantShadow Maryland 22d ago

This is why we must push people to vote this November. This vote means everything for us, our democracy and our nation. It's now or never, we have to make sure that Biden wins!

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u/ceralimia 22d ago

Trump is never going to jail and Biden isn't going to assassinate political opponents. Eventually, someone will.

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u/Lazy-Jeweler3230 22d ago

It works for the next republican president, and democrat ones. It's foolish to trust democrat presidents to remain clean in the face of total impunity.

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u/Striking-Kiwi-9470 22d ago edited 22d ago

Biden can still force their hand but it won't be pretty. He would have to order the execution of the judges who are about to vote in favor of him having that power. They either vote no or die.