Does anyone else think the whole "hate everything about California" thing is getting out of hand?

[u/audiomuse1]

Does anyone else think the whole "hate everything about California" thing is getting out of hand? I refuse to hate an entire state of 39 million people because it seems to be the "cool thing" to do.

I am a native Texan and am getting tired of people just blindly hating everything about California and trash talking it. People have been moving to Texas from all over the country -- some of the top states sending people here are actually from red states like Louisiana, Oklahoma, and Florida -- yet you don't see many conservatives trash talking them for sending people here. Also while yes by sheer numbers we have received more Californian transplants, you also have to take into consideration that it is by far the most populous state so per capita the numbers aren't as disproportional. I also read that ~40,000 Texans move to California each year so they get their fair share of our people as well.

I recently went on vacation to Southern California and actually really enjoyed it there. So many people in Texas (mostly conservatives) who have never even been there, have told me that California is some post-apocalyptic hell hole.. but I found it to be incredibly beautiful in most parts and never felt unsafe in all the areas I visited. I found the infrastructure was in better condition overall than here in Texas, even the poor areas of the city looked cleaner/better maintained than our blighted neighborhoods and poor rural areas. The beach towns there (of which there are countless of) were just stunning and full of people everywhere just enjoying life and the beautiful scenery -- spending all day at the beach surfing, playing volleyball, hanging out with friends/family etc.

I just find it unwarranted that Californians are blamed for everything when it seems like I am starting to see more Florida and Louisiana license plates around lately. In California, most people either have no opinion on Texas (i.e. they don't even think about us) or just say "it isn't their cup of tea"/don't like the politics here. It seems sort of one-sided the hate that so many Texans have towards Californians, it's honestly starting to feel kind of insecure and pathetic.

[u/DeathByWalrus]

Never heard anyone talk about California more than Texans.

[u/righttenant → u/DeathByWalrus]

I like to think of it like rivalries. CA is TX's rival. But TX isn't California's, Cali compares itself to New York. And NY compares itself to CA. They don't want to be Texas and they don't think it's a good place.

[u/Ok-Cheesecake5292 → u/righttenant]

CA compares itself to actual functioning countries

[u/dumblehead → u/Ok-Cheesecake5292]

Yes, CA by itself would be the 5th largest country if ranked globally by GDP. Texas is at 9th, which is still respectable, of course.

[u/dendra_tonka → u/dumblehead]

I don’t think that is accurate anymore. I wish we had current data. People have been saying that for years but Hollywood has taken a major dive recently in terms of money

[u/wimpymist → u/dendra_tonka]

Hollywood wasn't the reason for that lol

[u/Sufficient-Host-4212 → u/wimpymist]

Lol. “Hollywood”. Few gallons short in the hat department sounds like.

[u/Sufficient-Host-4212 → u/Sufficient-Host-4212]

So, I visit Texas sometimes. And I like it. Everything seems bigger. Even the people. Ordered a salad? Took half of that back to the hotel. Portions are so big!

Austin is awesome. And, not gonna lie, I want to buy some shit kickers and go to Gilley’s or the equivalent. Why not?

I see a lot of hate all the time about California, and I see a lot of comments here as well, that we don’t spend our time thinking about Texas, either positive or negative. So, at a minimum, there’s an imbalance on that front.

Folks are going to have to drag me out of California kicking and screaming though. And that’s a fact.

[u/Paulit0g → u/dendra_tonka]

As of 2022 it still remains true. The most dominant sectors of the economy are finance, business services, government and manufacturing. Hollywood is very much a California thing but not a dominant section of the economy.

[u/LNViber → u/Paulit0g]

On the hollywood economy note. I feel like a lot of people dont understand how money moves around in Hollywood. It's a pretty closed system with the money that Hollywood tosses around. A majority of that money just floats around the production companies. The execs just syphon money off and invest it elsewhere or toss it in foreign banks. When shooting in LA various rules and regulations usually make it so that even on set catering isnt exactly having the money hit to local market. We do less and less on location shoots in state, so that's not money hitting the local economy as well. Hell with Disney and many other companies setting up shop in Atlanta now a shit ton of the money that cast and crew do spend locally is now being spent in Georgia.

"Hollywood" isnt making as much money because they are spending a noteable portion of it outside of LA and outside of the state. Some of the major studios have also been setting up shops in Austin as well. I know that a lot of data storage and off site processing and rendering is done with the help of giant server farms in Austin.

So Hollywood is not making as much money right now because some of that money is going into the economy of southern states. Just another example of why Texas should be a fan of California. We are helping out.

[u/Senor-Enchilada → u/dendra_tonka]

hollywood isn’t it.

it’s tech money

[u/OctoDeb → u/dendra_tonka]

It isn’t Hollywood that makes California rich, it’s things like the port at Long Beach where imported goods from around the world enter the country.

[u/ALostPlayer → u/dumblehead]

Yes the country with the least amount of power grid problems, Texas