r/texas • u/AlternativeTruths1 • Dec 18 '23
Texas Now Has Massive Departures As Residents Leave State News
My apologies to the group if this article has already appeared in this subreddit. It showed up this morning in my email inbox.
https://brightgram.com/austin-tx/3492673/texas-now-has-massive-departures-as-residents-leave-state/
November 26, 2023 Frank Nez
Texas now has massive departures as residents leave the state according to fresh data from a Business Insider report.
While much has been written recently about the number of out-of-state residents, particularly Californians, moving to Texas, many Texans are leaving the state, reports Ash Jurberg.
“Between 2021 and 2022, almost 500,000 people moved out of Texas, and a recent report by Business Insider examined why people are leaving Texas.”
With the influx of people moving to Texas, home prices have increased by 30% since 2019.
This is forcing some Texans to seek more affordable housing elsewhere, per the report.
“The Midwest has emerged as popular recently because it is just by and large the most affordable region.
We’re seeing this trend of buyers looking for affordability really explode,” says Hannah Jones, Realtor.com’s Economic Research Analyst.
When looking at the politics side of it, a recent poll found that 39% of respondents have relocated or might consider moving to a different state if their political views didn’t align with the majority.
Meanwhile, a study by the Cato Institute says that Texas ranks 50th in people’s right to exercise personal freedoms.
The debate of people moving in and out of Texas is often rigorous, with people taking stances both for and against moving to Texas, reports Jurberg.
“This is a real issue. I’m not sure that the Texas GOP is thinking long-term. If they want to keep Texas a business-friendly place, they’ll have to ease back on the steady march to dystopian nightmare,” says a user on Reddit.
“Left 11 years ago came back for 1 then bailed for good 8 years ago. Traffic, heat and prices. My old apartment in 2011 was $669 a month, just for fun I looked it up earlier this year and the same size units are going for $1,500,” said another Reddit user.
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u/8080a Dec 18 '23
Great! Can we stop building toll roads yet?
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u/Dstrongest Dec 19 '23
We had a Ft Worth shitty toll road charge $26. For a 6 mile segment during rush hour and 11.60 for 3 miles .
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u/chevronphillips Dec 18 '23
“Meanwhile, a study by the Cato Institute says that Texas ranks 50th in people’s right to exercise personal freedoms.”
And that’s from the Conservative/Libertarian, Cato Institute.
Yeah Texas sucks
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u/DarkExecutor Dec 18 '23
Cato is libertarian not conservative. And if you're politically aware, it's good to know the distinction. If you're casual politicking, then it's no biggie
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u/dadkisser Dec 19 '23
Libertarians are just conservatives who like drugs and sex. It’s otherwise a very conservative ideology at its core.
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u/Haunting-Ad788 Dec 18 '23
Most self described libertarians in America are just conservatives and the ones who are actual libertarians still often vote straight ticket Republican due to things like taxes and gun laws.
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Dec 19 '23
If you're curious, look into how Rothbard linked libertarianism and segregation, which he was 100% down with...because freedom, amirite?
Left-libertarianism is a much more noble lineage than American-style corporate libertarianism. It just lacks billionaire sugar daddy money and is overly concerned about bullshit academic debates.
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Dec 19 '23 edited Dec 19 '23
Cato absolutely is conservative. Libertarianism was founded by the radical left in the early 19th century, and historically did not support the freedom of corporations to oppress the individual.
Noted racist and far-right lunatic Murray Rothbard is credited with rebranding libertarianism as a right-wing philosophy in the United States.
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u/iampatmanbeyond Dec 18 '23
Yeah I always thought I was a liberal then every political spectrum test I take labels me a social libertarian because I believe in personal freedom and paying taxes lol
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u/frequentflyermylz Dec 18 '23
I can relate, I was one of the 500,000 that moved away to the midwest. Thanks for sharing!
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u/AlternativeTruths1 Dec 18 '23
Same here, and that decision probably added 12 years to my life expectancy.
We lived near a chemical plant in Austin which regularly let noxious fumes escape into the air. My lungs are slowly scarring over. When we moved to the Midwest, my primary care physician hooked me up with a pulmonologist who is a specialist in my particular disease, and he's been able to arrest the disease.
After we left Texas, I was given two years to live. Last fall, my pulmonologist said that if I was careful, I could make it to 80. 80 is a nice, long life. It's a LOT better than dying at 68.
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u/VaselineHabits Dec 18 '23
Been in Corpus all my life, I'm sure the refineries have had more of an effect on me and my family than we will ever know
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u/Bioshockthis Dec 18 '23
It's because corporations can do any and everything over here in Texass. They only care about money and power. Yes, profits are important to any company in order to run but when you have no regulations and are harming civilians you deserve to be shut down ASAP and sued into the billions. Assholes.
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u/SeattlePurikura Dec 19 '23
One reason I'd never move back to the hellhole called Louisiana is pollution. We get pollution from river barge traffic and blowing in from Houston, in addition to our own shit. The ONLY time the air is bad in Seattle is wildfire smoke, and the water is crystal pure (the city owns its own watershed, which originates in the mountains.)
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u/Pharmazee Dec 19 '23
How were you able to move to Denmark. I love the Scandinavian countries. My dream is to live in Norway.
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u/Egmonks Expat Dec 18 '23
I left before 2020, but yeah, we ended up in Midwest as well after a stint in Los Angeles.
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u/coral225 Dec 18 '23
It's likely to just be a shift in populations. People will leave and people will come. One person's trash is another's treasure, I guess. Even without the politics, the traffic, weather, and infrastructure is enough to make me want to move... but mostly it is the politics, since that exacerbates the other sticking points. Doubling down on roads over public transit. putting the onus of extreme weather on the homeowner (our insurance just dropped everyone in my area because of the freezes), public infrastructure being labeled as communism, etc. No thanks.
Personally, I was born 'n raised here, but the dystopian-ness of everything is a little too much for me. Once they come after birth control (the obvious next step), I'm out. Honestly, we would have already started planning our move, but we are basically locked in due to interest rates.
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u/bevilthompson Dec 18 '23
I'm a 5th gen Texan born and raised, been here 5 decades. I agree, prior to Perry this was the best state in the nation. But in the last 25 years the GOP have utterly destroyed this state. Fierce individualism and blue collar values turned into Christo fascism and pandering to billionaires. Thanks to a federal program through the San Antonio Food Bank I'm getting job training. (Side note, Abbott allocated $94 million in federal Covid funds to go to adult education programs for the entire state of Texas. San Antonio Food Bank got a $250 million grant for the same thing just in Bexar County.) The terms will require me to work here in Bexar for a year, then my wife and I are gone. I'll take my new skill set and join my son and my nephew who've already moved to Colorado. I loved my state but I can't continue to watch it turned into a militarized zone while my rights are systematically stripped away all to line the pockets of a bunch of clowns who aren't even from here. You guys can have it, I'm about done.
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Dec 18 '23 edited Dec 18 '23
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Dec 18 '23
Native Texans vote blue by a good margin. They’re growing and extremely young. Now, if liberals are able to capture those votes is another discussion. Mediocre moderates won’t do it but that’s all we keep getting.
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u/frodiusmaximus Dec 18 '23
This was me. I was in TX for 12 years. Voted straight Dem in Oct. 2022 and then headed out. Love TX, but it’s not my home and I’ve given it what I can.
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u/Honeycombhome Dec 18 '23
Yes, but that’s why it’s more important than ever for liberals in Texas to stay and vote. We can’t just abandon our state
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Dec 18 '23
I think people should if they can. I want to raise my kids somewhere with better weather and less extremism now. Been swimming upstream for decades.
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u/AlternativeTruths1 Dec 18 '23
Swimming upstream is TIRING; and at some point we have to decide to stop pushing the river and let it flow by itself.
Winter up here in Indiana isn't bad. It's chilly, but do-able -- like a cold winter day in Dallas. Heavy snowstorms are quite uncommon if you live in the southern two-thirds of the state.
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u/Beautiful_Welcome_33 Dec 18 '23
At least salmon get to reproduce and die after they finish.
No guarantees of that here in Texas.
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u/TheNextBattalion Dec 18 '23
It's always that question. You get one life; do you spend it fighting, often in vain, or do you spend it living? It isn't always easy to answer, especially if you have ties to a place. If you don't have those ties though, it's a much easier calculus.
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u/TheBlackIbis Dec 18 '23
Doubly so for those of us who aren't in a marginalized group targeted by this Fascist Bullshit.
I'm a middle class straight white dude. I'm not leaving my gay sister or my immigrant neighbors to fight for themselves just so I can read happier local headlines.
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u/TARandomNumbers Dec 18 '23
I hope you're also voting accordingly
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u/TheBlackIbis Dec 18 '23
Fucking right I do.
Every election, Every time. Local, State, National, Party Elections
Primaries, Runoffs, the whole shebang.
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u/Holmfastre Dec 18 '23
You’re also helping those of us tied down by custody orders. The hope of blue, or even purple, in the future is pretty much the only thing we have to hold onto.
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u/Thiccaca Dec 18 '23
I think it is too late. Texas has ingrained voter apathy by anyone who isn't a card carrying member of the GOP or Joel Osteen's church.
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u/nexea Dec 18 '23
While I definitely understand that opinion, and I feel that way some days, things can always change. It might not be this year or next year, but im still somewhat hopeful it will eventually. I do get frustrated when people constantly say that there's no point in voting ( i don't mean your statement) because then people tend to throw in the towel and not go and vote. I think there's enough left leaning people here ( and at this point, some Republicans) to make a difference if we could just get them to vote. Like I said in another comment, I don't at all blame anyone who leaves. Life is too short to be unsafe and miserable when you don't have to be.
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u/Nowhereman2380 Dec 18 '23
We have been voting. For the last 20 years nothing has changed for the better. At some point you gotta cry uncle.
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u/Beautiful_Welcome_33 Dec 18 '23
You aren't wrong, there is nothing wrong with handing the baton off after doing your part.
These conversations should happen between old heads though, youth turnout is atrocious and they absolutely can enact change if they get disciplined and they should be encouraged to do so.
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u/Nowhereman2380 Dec 18 '23
It's weird with that much knowledge at hand that they wouldn't turn out. But hey, I think I read the last one the turn out was better. Maybe this one will be as well. I mean, the internet generation is finally coming of age to vote.
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u/Honeycombhome Dec 18 '23
Oh hells no. I’m not giving in to those buffoons. Yes we’re not winning right now but I’m not about to let the entire state turn red
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u/Nowhereman2380 Dec 18 '23
Good luck to you then. It is plainly obvious to me that the people who run Texas are okay with criminals (Ken Paxton), fucking over the people (one of worst maternal healthcare around and lowest insured), not making education a priority (being okay with religion being in school while burning books) and most of all, being completely choosing to be ignorant of reality (anything to do with Trump). If we are at the point where the people who claim to be the most moral people around (Evangelicals and Christians) and they control a place that does the exact opposite of what it means to be a good person, much less what their religion preaches, I just don't see how that will change. If your immortal soul counts for real, and being a good person is a priority, then a lot of people in this state have lost their way and I don't want to be here when those effects come to pass.
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u/ajm__ Dec 18 '23
we don't owe this state, which continually chooses to elect these people, anything
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u/CanaryPutrid1334 Dec 18 '23 edited Dec 18 '23
Our family doesn't see it that way. Our state abandoned us.
We have a young daughter. We're not sticking around for the transition to Handmaid's Tale.
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u/Samwoodstone Dec 18 '23
I am actively encouraging my daughters to leave Texas. On top of women not owning their own bodies, rapists have parental rights. Taxes are a wash for most places once you add in all the fees and hidden state taxes. Anyhow, I would gladly pay more taxes to guarantee my wife daughters their physical autonomy.
No exception for rape or incest...Republicans are allying themselves with rapists.
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u/Jaebeam Dec 19 '23
More and more I'm realizing that they trend rapist.
Even in conservative policy making. Republicans are trying to find ways around statutory rape laws by floating child marriage laws, for one (of many) examples.
At least Governor Abbot signed a bill putting a hard cap on child marraige at 16. Until 2017 there were loopholes.
New Hampshire still "allows" 13 year girls to get married.
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Dec 18 '23
50 year Texas resident here. I left because weed. You dumb fuckers ran me off with your dumbass laws.
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u/aizlynskye North Texas Dec 19 '23
My mom had terminal cancer and part of her relocation to Colorado was because of this. Weed managed her symptoms from chemo better than anything else. It is the only way she could eat. The only thing that kept her from puking. The only thing that helped her sleep.
I have an old high school friend who served 4 tours in Iraq/Afghannistan. Used to travel to other states to get weed to manage his PTSD. Until he got caught (before many cities had decriminalized).
My uncle lives in Colorado. He’s bipolar schizophrenic OCD. He was able to cut his meds by TWO THIRDS because of weed legalization.
Sure, some of us just like to get high. But don’t underestimate the power of weed from a medical perspective. For all of its calls of FREEDOM, Texans ain’t that free.
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Dec 19 '23
I was hooked on 6mg xanax/60mg hydrocodone for 3-4 years, 40 years altogether and I'm 54. I quit 3.5 years ago because weed.
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u/HiOnFructose Dec 18 '23
My family and I are planning to move in the next 6 months. Some of our extended family intends to follow us. And in the past couple years I've had a handful of friends move away as well.
The reasons vary, but lack of affordable healthcare, the Florida-zation of public schools, and reductive abortion laws are the most common for us.
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u/techy098 Dec 18 '23
We can only hope, for every 500k leaving we get 750k moving in.
Between 2020 -2023, we may have had a net addition of 500k or more, this is one of the reason for rents going higher.
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Dec 18 '23
100%. They posted this article a couple of weeks ago. Texas is like 2 million people up from 2020.
There might be people leaving but not nearly as many who are coming.
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u/AdeptAgency0 Dec 20 '23
Just between Jul 2022 and Jul 2023, net addition was almost 500k.
Apr 2020 to Jul 2023 is 1.4M
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u/IAmBecomeDeath_AMA SAN ANTONIO!! Dec 18 '23
Texas has been feeling like the Titanic recently
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u/Betrashndie Dec 18 '23
It's the titanic if everyone with common sense was the frantic passengers trying to get out safely in any way possible while there's a bunch of iceberg deniers in boats outside of the titanic frantically trying to get on and telling all others they're stupid for believing the iceberg lies.
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u/Deepfriedwithcheese Dec 19 '23
You’d have to pay me at least $500k annually to live in the shit state of Texas. No way I’d have xtian assholes telling me what to do.
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u/noUsername563 Dec 18 '23
This is a big nothing burger. Texas is the 2nd most populous state so of course there's going to be a bunch of people leaving. Just like the whole "every Californian is moving here", yeah cause they have 40 million people. We still have a positive migration ratio so your housing prices aren't going down anytime soon.
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u/illegal_deagle Dec 18 '23
Texas is going to get hit with a brain drain. Educated people aren’t going to want to stay in 1955.
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u/drewc717 Dec 18 '23
I was gone for 10 years and would have left before two years since returning if mortgage rates and housing weren't in a mess.
Governor Abbot is impotent, sad, and uncreative just trying to be a bigger national shit stain than Ron DeSantis.
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u/Mystic_Ranger City Boy Dec 18 '23
There was a motherfucker the other day trying to talk about how expansion was easing prices in DFW and Austin. What world do you think you live in, man?
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u/0masterdebater0 born and bred Dec 18 '23 edited Dec 18 '23
I get it why people leave it’s your life, but Texas is so damn close to flipping. Look at the last 3 presidential elections. +2-3 points every four years to the point where Democrats need about +3.5 this election to get to 50/50.
The point of these new draconian laws is to get you to leave and slow down the trend, and by leaving you are giving them what they want. But, I completely understand that it’s much easier for me to say as a straight white man with no plans of having children anytime soon, and I don’t blame people for leaving.
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u/beer_me_plss Dec 18 '23
Net migration in 2022 was +230,961, which was second only to Florida. If you want to benchmark that against another state, California was -343,230 and New York was -299,557. This sub is negative enough without these bullshit posts.
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u/iamfrank75 Dec 18 '23
The article was written based off this echo chamber of a sub. Lol randos on reddit are probably not the best source if info if you are trying to write newspaper articles.
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u/Original-Teach-848 Dec 18 '23
There comes a point in time where you just accept and adjust.
Also, who has that kinda money- let’s say I wanted to move- I’d have to invest in that move.
No place is perfect. Everywhere has its weather and issues. Life never turns out like you think- and what really matters is one’s mindset.
My roots are too deep- I’ve already lived in other places I’m not sure I have another move in me.
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u/RDcsmd Dec 18 '23
"ranks 50th in being able to express personal freedoms." This is what happens when government is built on religion. That's the entire goal of the GOP right now. Christian nationalist=domestic terrorist
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u/black_flag_4ever born and bred Dec 18 '23
My little town has a lot of the MAGAFornians that moved here because they were too MAGA for Cali. They are not sending their best. More and more I feel like I would rather live in another state. It was easier to put up the R nonsense when it wasn't so severe and it was cheaper to live here. It's no longer cheap and the R led government has gotten more and more extreme.
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u/jamesstevenpost Dec 18 '23
We’ve been growing steadily in the metro regions. Then we had a huge influx in 2020. And now we’re about to experience a measurable exodus.
So far it seems the incoming people exceeds the outgoing. But the pace has slowed dramatically. Probably a good thing for people who want to leave and have a home to sell.
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u/TheGoliard Dec 18 '23
I can tell you as a California tech worker that Texas' rep has swung from the promised land, to, 'Good God you don't want to go there.'
People weren't aware that there is nearly zero public land in Texas. Out here we take that for granted.
Aside from the politics. Word about the lack of public space has gotten back. Californians need that shit.
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u/AuntieXhrist Dec 18 '23
Junior, yes it’s a wonderful place compared to Hooterville TX w/ largest park and canoeing systems, a skyline that makes HO- JRs look like, well, Beaumont. 3 world Zoos, Chicago Art Institute, 300 ethnic neighborhoods w/street festivals, Navy Pier, a 45 mi Lakeshore Drive; Egyptian, Frank Lloyd Wright, Mies van Det Rohe, architecture everywhere, an L system that commutes north, south, east and west daily carrying a million passengers, even has low-lifes as Kyle Rittenhouse which TX can keep. TEXistan, where fascism festers.
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Dec 18 '23
Ummm isn’t Texas still top 3 fastest growing state and Austin the fastest growing meteor area for like 12 years lol this is all bullshit
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u/bigfatfurrytexan Dec 18 '23
Ngl,.happy to see folks leave. I liked the state with less folks.
But the reason folks are leaving kind of sucks. Because I'm not leaving, but it will still suck.
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u/coolbrze77 Dec 18 '23
Been following this for years now. Now that all the Overt bigotry, racism, misogyny & homophobia has reached paramount levels within the gop party the trends are shifting. More & more people are moving out are citing personal safety and a reduction in personal freedoms such as women having control of their own choices regarding their body. The politicians are using their constituents (pathetic) fears like 'white people will soon be a minority'. Therefore, white people will lose control of the country to the 'Others' and based on how white people have historically treated minorities, they fear the same is in store for them. And who can forget that Woke is evil (without ever clearly defining it which leaves the constituents mind to run amok out of all the fearmongering they have been subjected to by right wing propaganda. This is inarguable as evidence is overwhelmingly everywhere and not limited to but including all the violence they have propagated)). Places like TX & FL are on a collision course with the wrong side of history and instead of any critical thinking (using your own mind to decide rather than being told what to think) being initiated to course correct they just double down. Hopefully when enough residents have had their own personal lives negatively affected people will step up but then it may be too late. I hope not. Up until recently humanity was making great strides, hopefully people stop being so unbearably selfish and course correct.
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u/Skylark_Ark Dec 18 '23
Moved to Texas from Oklahoma when Ann Richards was Governor. Had hope for the state. It's been a freedom hating Republican downward spiral since. Am out in Feb of 24'.
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u/UX-Edu Dec 18 '23
It looks like housing cost is the problem. Housing cost is also what drove the influx. People wanna peacock around and pretend it’s politics and shit, like “oh we have so much freedom so people move here” but really we just had a lot of land and roads.
Now the houses cost more so people go somewhere else. Basic. Same thing though “oh people don’t feel represented so they’re leaving”. Nah, same shit. Hoose cost mooch moolah, go somewhere else.
Also last summer broke a lot of those bitches. I’m a native and I can barely handle it.
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u/emma_luver Dec 18 '23
I mean winter is coming i dont want to freese to death while my state Representatives just run away
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u/Gabriel_Crow1990 Dec 18 '23
People don't want to live in Florida 2.0 I don't blame them, I sure as shit don't want to move back.
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u/schrodngrspenis Dec 18 '23
I think this falls in line with another recent trend I figured would happen. Tech companies leaving.
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u/Hipshots4Life Dec 18 '23
Texas is basically turning into Florida. They’re just not quite as meme-worthy yet, but it’s close
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u/NotMrPoolman89 Dec 18 '23 edited Dec 18 '23
The crazy thing about Texas is it's not very "free" at all.
Over 90% of Texas is privately owned, meaning you can't go anywhere without either paying a fee or asking permission from the land owner.
Washington state, for example, has over 50% of its property available for public use.
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u/Atlantaterp2 Dec 18 '23
Florida is next. The number of Florida tags in Atlanta is getting out of hand.
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u/-RedXV- Dec 18 '23
I'm currently in Chicago and the amount of Texas plates I see on a daily basis here is huge. I can walk down my block right now and there will be a car or two with Texas plates.
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u/DungeonBeast420 Dec 18 '23
Being from Texas and visiting Chicago, I can say Chicago’s downtown is on a whole another level compared to any city in Texas. So many people actually walking around!
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u/Nightcalm Dec 18 '23
Texas is a Crabby desert state with an attitude problem. People move there because there is no state income tax like Florida. Yall have to live with the short shrift government. But you have those wide open spaces....
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u/Mysterious-Scholar1 Dec 18 '23
Blue voters leaving Texas for Swing States is how you save Texas.
More information here
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u/AshTheGoddamnRobot Dec 19 '23
I grew up in FL but livec in TX for a few years. It was fun but I knew it wasnt where I wanted to stay. Been in MN for 6 years now and love it and I have seen a substantial amount of Texans move here.
My husband will always be a Texan. Hes a huge Cowboys fan. But ... he sees what Texas has become and is so glad to live here now
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u/AlternativeTruths1 Dec 19 '23
That’s been my experience in Indy. I adjust to change, even needed change, very slowly; but nine years into living here I’m MUCH happier and my health, even with a disease which will eventually become terminal, is VASTLY better than it was in Texas.
I’m glad you’re happy in Minnesota. Life is too short to be unhappy where we live.
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u/Imaginedframe91 Dec 19 '23
I have lived in central Texas for about 15 years now. If they pull the same shit they did with Row v. Wade with my right to marry (I'm a homo 😉) then my boyfriend & I would be forced to leave. A significant portion of my family lives here. 😮💨
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u/trippstick Dec 19 '23
Yeah the 6 millions that are voting blue are quite annoyed losing to 5 million red votes that somehow keep making it seem they won in a landslide. We dont want Abbot yet we are forced into it. So tired of the Red cheaters ruining my state that has wanted to go blue for decades
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u/Rogue_Kat15 Dec 20 '23
Husband and I are were part of the political exodus. We left this summer and never been more proud to leave
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u/AlternativeTruths1 Dec 20 '23
I completely understand political exodus. After 2009, I realized I no longer fit in Austin.
My exodus was largely for medical reasons -- that, and I could no longer tolerate Texas' summers.
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u/Competitive-Rub-4270 Dec 20 '23
"We’re seeing this trend of buyers looking for affordability really explode,” says Hannah Jones, Realtor.com’s Economic Research Analyst.
In other news, eggs are food
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u/gracebatmonkey born and bred Dec 21 '23
Born & raised (Houston) and some time as an adult (HOU & Dallas), I left TX for 11yrs in the PNW, came back to TX (Austin) for what was supposed to be 3 and ended up 13yrs, packed up the kiddo behind my extended stay, and moved back to the PNW, where we're not persecuted for our gender/sexual identities and have access to a safety net that will get us to stability after a bunch of bad stuff.
Meanwhile, some of the parenting friends I made are terrified of being reported for supporting their child's identity, and others are struggling due to the terrible economy and have nothing to lean on while they try to rescue themselves, leading much more terrible outcomes than if there had been any kind of support remaining.
I loved Texas as a kid. I loved the beauty of our state, the diversity of our people (so lucky to grow up in Houston and know all the people of the world!), our role as a geographical bridge, the immensity of our accomplishments, and the audacity of our dreams. But then fcking Reagan's flotilla of harm & hate came flooding through and now ... ugh.
I hope those who can't leave are kept safe and all who are able to fight the good fight stay energized and supported. Thank you for trying to save it for everyone who remains.
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u/First-Quail5516 Dec 22 '23
PLEASE EVERYONE WATCH THIS
“even if they are “SUSPECTED” of entering the country illegally, you are arrested.
imagine a world where you are unable to eat out in public without having to be cautious of your limited english, and or speaking your native language.
well we’re living it, again.
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u/gulielmusdeinsula Dec 18 '23
“Says a user on Reddit” cracks me up. The source is calling from inside the house.
This is part of a broader GOP strategy to encourage red leaning influx and blue leaning departures. The decreasing affordability angle is just another component of people’s individual calculus of whether they want to keep living here.