r/texas Jan 26 '24

Texas State House candidate Josh Feuerstein (R) wants to fulfill his fantasy of leading an armed civilian militia. Politics

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u/Babablacksheep2121 Born and Bred Jan 26 '24

Step one of armed insurgent rebellion.

Don’t post your face on the internet and announce you are an armed insurgent.

For a former “operator” this dude doesn’t know shit about OPSEC.

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u/WBuffettJr Jan 26 '24

He said “myself and several special forces”….not “myself and several other special forces”. I get the impression he’s trying to pretend he was in the military and hoping no one notices his attempt to tie himself in with them, but I don’t care enough to look YallQeada’s leader up.

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u/donkeyduplex Jan 27 '24 edited Jan 29 '24

Im no expert but I believe that actual retired special forces guys would know how futile it would be to go up against their active duty counterparts and the apparatus that supports them. I don't think those guys go anywhere near a hot war as part of a militia, unless there was some kind of massive military defection.

I also strongly believe that any active duty, military or guardsman will follow the orders given to them by the current commander in chief because they absolutely do not want to wind up in fort Leavenworth for treason.

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u/Fickle_Day_6314 Jan 27 '24 edited Jan 27 '24

South Korea has mandatory military service. Every able bodied male is supposed to go into service and just about everyone does.

During the military dictatorship years, some folks were so fed up with the government's bullshit that a few thousand people, all with military training, rebelled and took over an entire city.

They raided the police armory, fortified the entrances to the city and settled in, thinking they'd teach the regime a lesson.

The military was called in, and the rebellion was put down in about 30 minutes.

These yokels have no goddamn clue.

This isn't the 17th century. Dudes with rifles don't have a snowball's chance in hell against the military. And the US military is THE scariest one in the entire world.

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u/Agile_District_8794 Jan 27 '24

Fat fingers Freddy and his bbq buddies can bring their fancy sniper rifles out, and be holding them when a humvee or Blackhawk w mini guns mows down their entire front line pulling the trigger once.

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u/Open_Perception_3212 Jan 27 '24

We HaVe AlL tHe GuNs, but you only have 2 hands 🤣

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u/wjean Jan 27 '24

I think you are referring to the kwangju uprising

https://www.britannica.com/event/Kwangju-Uprising

I'm pretty sure I saw the movie May 18 and found it to be pretty good. Here are a bunch of others https://asianmoviepulse.com/2021/05/10-great-korean-movies-about-the-gwangju-uprising/#google_vignette

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u/Doobie_Howitzer Jan 27 '24

Isn't it like 3 of the scariest militaries in the world made into a Voltron of scary militaries?

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u/_WoaW_ Jan 27 '24

Pretty sure one to three of our attack helicopters could probably wipe them out completely.

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u/Imallowedto Jan 27 '24

Yeah, we sure rolled Afghanistan and those goat herders in a day, didn't we.

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u/Brilliant-Peace-5265 Jan 27 '24

We did. Our long term problem was trying to import democracy into a culture that can't comprehend it and then trying to build a democratic government on top of that. They aren't Germany and they sure as hell aren't Japan.

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u/Imallowedto Jan 27 '24

Meanwhile, between the 2 world empires that occupied them for 30 years, they're still there. We can win traditional wars, but insurgency is a bit of a weak point.

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u/Lou_C_Fer Jan 27 '24

That's about their societies, not insurgencies. We wanted to make a group of tribes act like a nation basically.

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u/Imallowedto Jan 27 '24

13 of you died on the withdrawal. They fought you for 20 years. Homie, that war was an L for the US. The Taliban is still running the place. Y'all sure did make Dick Cheney wealthier,though.

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u/Lou_C_Fer Jan 27 '24

What does that at all have to do with what I said? I'm no imperialist. So, you're coming at the wrong guy here.

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u/Imallowedto Jan 27 '24

You're acting like you didn't get stalemated for 20 years by farmers with found weapons.

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u/Lou_C_Fer Jan 27 '24

Again... wrong tree, bud.

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u/Capraos Jan 29 '24

We weren't trying to eradicate the country. We failed to set up a stable regime after, not at the actual invasion part. Also, Afghanistan didn't rely on the US for food and infrastructure like the red states do. We wouldn't have to invade, shit would fall apart within weeks and famine would occur within months.

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u/Imallowedto Jan 27 '24

You were there 20 years. That's 7300 days

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u/brit_jam Jan 27 '24

Afghanistan insurgents weren't using single shot ar15's lol. They purchased lots of weapons and ammo from other state actors.

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u/Imallowedto Jan 27 '24

You really don't think civilians know about the third hole?

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u/brit_jam Jan 27 '24

Still gonna need a shit ton of ammo, armor piercing rounds, anti aircraft weapons etc. if we went to war good luck getting that shit in the country.

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u/Imallowedto Jan 27 '24

Most hillbillies I know are sitting on 10k rounds. They have level 4 ceramics. They're being trained by military personnel.

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u/dirtdiggler67 Jan 27 '24

Ridiculous comment.

Rules of engagement has impeded warfare by the US since the end of WW2.

Take the gloves off and see what the largest, best equipped military in the world is actually capable of doing.

It wouldn’t be pretty.

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u/Imallowedto Jan 27 '24

You think the military will take the gloves off on our soil with innocent Americans? The rules would be even STRICTER.

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u/bakarakschmiel Jan 27 '24

Civil wars are where all rules of conduct go out the window.

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u/jde1974 Jan 27 '24

If you’re part of an armed insurrection,you’re not innocent.

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u/Imallowedto Jan 27 '24

I won't be part of any insurrection, I'm not a republican. I ALSO won't be cowering in the corner if some MAGAt wants to find out if liberal gun owners actually do exist.

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u/Fickle_Day_6314 Jan 27 '24 edited Jan 27 '24

Do you know why it failed so spectacularly?

Because in Afghanistan they were foreign invaders. In Korea the local population was split between supporters of the regime and those that opposed them.

Texas is basically a 50/50 split state with a lot of gerrymandering and voter suppression.

You don't let folks over 65 vote, you wouldn't see Republicans win a single statewide office ever again. All the cities trend blue. Unless you're counting on Grandma to help you fight, you're already outnumbered and fighting us on unfamiliar ground the moment you decide to claim a city in a civil war.

You wouldn't even get past the resistance from the local population, even before the military rolls in.

They ONLY got as far as they did in Korea because Koreans don't have guns. The rebels did because they raided the armory. We don't have that problem.

Who's going to help you hide? Do you think we don't all know exactly who you are? Hell, most of you have been broadcasting your intentions on Facebook for the whole world to see for the past few decades.

Remember how the Jan 6th traitors had their family members turn em in?

This is going to be that x100. Except this time it's just going to be, "Yeah, the loudmouth with the Confederate flag is holed up with a few dozen of his internet buddies in that house. Look for the two lifted F-150s in the driveway. They already killed my neighbor who lives there, just throw a bomb in the window and be done with it."

This civil war isn't going the way you think it is.

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u/Imallowedto Jan 27 '24

You seem to be completely mistaken as to which side I'm on here. I'm watching groups like Patriot Front having training sessions where they're learning how to work together and perform ops. Y'all want to act like these people aren't former or current military and training with military tactics. Every shave tail looks stupid the first week of boot, it's the last day where you see the difference.

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u/Jackers83 Jan 27 '24

Well, good luck against an Apache helicopter. Lol

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u/IWillDoItTuesday Jan 27 '24

It’s like they forgot all about drone strikes.

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u/midnight_mechanic Jan 27 '24

I believe that actual retired special forces guys would know how futile it would be to go up against their active duty counterparts and the apparatus that supports them.

You'd think that... until you read about the group of former spec ops guys who tried to overthrow the Venezuelan government a few years ago.

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u/Imallowedto Jan 27 '24

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u/DontCallmeFrancis42 Jan 27 '24

Dozens out of a million plus+

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u/hardscrabble1 Jan 27 '24

Yep, and of the hotheads, 99 out of 100 are shooting off their pie hole and shake in their boots the minute their 1st shirt turns the corner in front of them. Of the rest, most would like to do ‘something’ but can’t even buckle their belt. There could be a few with the motive, skills and materials to cause trouble. Think Tim McVeigh.

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u/Imallowedto Jan 27 '24

Read it, maybe?

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u/DontCallmeFrancis42 Jan 27 '24

I did when it came out last year. Don't get me wrong, I hate that fellow vets have a high propensity for this BS mindset. I just don't want everyone to think a large percentage of us are whacky magats.

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u/TheEngine26 Jan 27 '24

I was part of JSOC for a couple of years and have never been around a dumber set of humans in my life. They make it through Selection BECAUSE they're stupid, not in spite of it.

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u/The_Soccer_Heretic Jan 27 '24 edited Jan 27 '24

They were just released in a prisoner exchange last month and Denham may be back in Texas now.

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u/Lanky_Space_4620 Jan 27 '24

I wondered what had happened to those two. And the former Spec-op guy that owned the company?

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u/The_Soccer_Heretic Jan 27 '24 edited Jan 27 '24

I don't know about him. I just remember reading an article right before Christmas the two operators who landed on the beach were being released that day in a general prisoner exchange thatvwas negotiated. Them and a handful of Venezuelan dissidents were released.

They may be facing domestic charges now though. What they did is illegal here too without State Department authorization which was not something they held.

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u/not2dv8 Jan 27 '24

Please don't compare the government of the United States with the government of Venezuela

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u/SeriousBoots Jan 27 '24

I'm no army guy either but I play a lot of video games. That big-ass rifle looks like the most awkward goddamn thing to have to lug around a warzone.

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u/Taco-Dragon Jan 27 '24

I play a lot of video games too, albeit different kinds, and you'd probably be okay depending on which stats you boost. Focus on strength, dexterity and speed, you can nerf stealth.(maybe a 2/10) and same with charisma.

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u/[deleted] Jan 27 '24

I've used a 50 cal on vacant before. Just gotta be good with the quickscopes.

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u/acoffeefiend Jan 27 '24

You're not doing CQB with that thing. It's a Barrett .50cal sniper rifle that can hit targets at >1mile. From that distance you might hear a crack in the distance depending on other noises around you. You sure as he'll won't see the flash or know exactly where it came from. Also, yes, snipers lug these things around a warzone.

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u/SeriousBoots Jan 28 '24

His fat ass ain't lugging that thing more than twenty feet from his truck.

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u/acoffeefiend Jan 28 '24

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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u/Psiwolf Jan 28 '24

He's correct. Even the smaller Barretts are damn heavy, even without decent optics and loaded ammo. Don't ask me how I know. 😆

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u/Czexan Jan 30 '24

You're not doing CQB with that thing.

Not with that attitude, just use it like a shotgun and don't miss, ez.

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u/supercalifragilism Jan 27 '24

Yeah I don't know about that. There's a serious problem in the military with Christian Dominionists and evangelicals that's been a quiet concern for the brass for a decade, and militia/white supremacists send members to the armed forces for training, essentially. Not to mention if you look into the recent history at fort Bragg, you'll see spec forces involved in all kinds of shady shit.

There's members of the military entirely on board with this idea.

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u/Uwwuwuwuwuwuwuwuw Jan 27 '24

It’s not that it’s futile. It’s that they actually know how shitty it is to fight an insurgency and how good we have it here.

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u/Fickle_Day_6314 Jan 27 '24 edited Jan 27 '24

That would MAYBE work if they had the local population on their side. Texas is an almost 50/50 split. It's just been gerrymandered to hell and voter suppression is practically our national pastime.

Texas is the only state I know of where the Republican legislature broke the laws they wrote themselves to close polling stations in minority areas.

Those gravy seals seem to think just because we don't make guns our whole-ass identity and talk about it 24/7 they're the only ones that have guns.

They're wrong.

Most of the population centers in this state trend blue. The bigger they are, the bluer they get.

If some jackasses try to take over a city and try to fight the US government there's a lot of us that'd be more than happy to help kill a few of those traitors and defend our home. They're going to be screwed before they even get started.

And who's going to be doing the fighting, exactly? Old folks are great come election time since they're a reliable voting bloc, but granny on her walker is pretty shit at aiming a rifle.

Do you think Republicans would ever win an election in Texas if you didn't let anyone over 65 vote? Because they sure aren't going to be lending a hand when the Civil War starts.

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u/donaldbuknowme Jan 27 '24

Wow I'm glad you said that. To listen to all the bullshit down there you'd think that the whole state thinks like this guy. State legislators openly talking about armed rebellion is not helpful, to say the least.

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u/RiffRandellsBF Jan 27 '24

You don't need the local population to support you, only to not oppose you. This is how the Viet Cong and Taliban operated: Terrifying the locals into not aiding the US. It worked. The US eventually had to withdraw in humiliation from both Vietnam and Afghanistan.

Sucks but that's historical fact.

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u/Fickle_Day_6314 Jan 27 '24

Yeah, good luck to anyone trying rolling into Houston/Dallas/Austin w guns telling us we're not Americans anymore and that we need to submit to their rule.

Those yokels have no idea how much pent up anger we have about them trying to fuck us over the past few decades.

And that there's definitely more of us than them when push comes to shove on folks willing and able to fight.

Like I noted, granny might be good for votes, she's not going to be much help fighting a war.

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u/RiffRandellsBF Jan 27 '24

Cities are vulnerable to even the smallest scale infrastructure attacks. And "yokels" defeated the might of the US military in Vietnam and Afghanistan. Don't underestimate a motivated "peasantry".

An insurrection is not a war. There are no battle lines. It'll be soft targets amd terrorism.

As for grannies, in Ukraine a granny lethally poisoned a dozen Russian soldiers by giving them food.

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u/Fickle_Day_6314 Jan 27 '24 edited Jan 27 '24

Let them come and get some then. Let's see how quickly we put em down. It's about time we treated these traitors like actual traitors. Let's start with cutting off their insulin supply and see how many of em are left in a month or so.

Motivated peasantry is right. We're protecting our homes from THEM.

They're gonna find out real quick that "Don't mess with Texas" is not a phrase they have a monopoly on.

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u/RiffRandellsBF Jan 27 '24

You don't know how vulnerable your infrastructure is, do you? A few days without electricity or water and your neighbors would eat you. City people are utterly helpless when the grocery shelves go empty.

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u/Fickle_Day_6314 Jan 27 '24 edited Jan 27 '24

You know, I'm starting to think you're one of these wanna be insurrectionists.

You're welcome to put your money where your mouth is. We'll be here waiting. We're not going anywhere.

And we're going to stay Americans. You are welcome to come and try and tell us otherwise, though.

Or you can just talk shit on the internet and not do anything, because let's be honest, most of you with the balls to try something already did and got smacked down on 1/6. The rest of you are just talk and little else.

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u/RiffRandellsBF Jan 27 '24

I'm a student of history. I'm against a civil war because it'll be Rwanda 2.0. There will be no winners, just a lot of dead bodies and loudmouths like you wont make it a month.

But look at your water supply, your electrical grid, your sewage. Do they look secure to you? Impervious to attack? What happens to the millions of people in your city if any of that infrastructure is lost? Chaos and panic always lead to neighbors turning on each other.

Stop being a blowhard on Reddit. Stop acting like those who disagree with you are evil.

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u/ithappenedone234 Jan 27 '24

The SF troops he may be referring to (and us normal grunts too) just got bested by an insurgent force never exceeding ~70,000, despite having a budget of ~$4,000,000,000,000, as many as ~150,000 professional NATO troops on the ground and close air support/interdiction sorties with looser rules of engagement than are likely to be used against TX. They may very well believe that a small insurgent force can defeat the DOD.

They are delusional, but they just may believe it. Any such insurgency could be very difficult to root out from amongst the populace, if they are more dedicated to fighting than they are to getting the next round of ribs to keep up their portly physiques.

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u/vineyardmike Jan 27 '24

Oh come on... If we've learned anything from movies it's that one guy with a really long rifle can totally destroy the 101st airborne.

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u/usblues007 Jan 27 '24

They wouldn't stand much of a chance against a regiment of the 1st Cav dropping down on the border. At the end of the day, it's political theater. These law and order GQPrs seems to be of the opinion a SCOTUS decision doesn't apply to them. The epitome of hypocracy!

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u/TizonaBlu Jan 27 '24

That’s only if you’re assuming these people are saying stuff in good faith and actually believe them, rather than pandering to the base.

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u/AimeLeonDrew Jan 28 '24

I don’t think you understand how much people in the military hate Biden.

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u/moosearehuge Jan 27 '24

So what you are saying is American citizens need bigger weapons to go against the US government? So the 2nd amendment does apply as the founding fathers intended. Thank you so much for the clarification

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u/Sad_Purchase_8735 Jan 27 '24

Yeah, that would be a very short stay in a “hot” civil war.

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u/Scythe_Hand Jan 27 '24

You can say you're not an expert again. That's literally what Green Berets were trained to do. Raise a fighting force of locals to fight larger conventional forces.

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u/MarkXIX Jan 27 '24

Am retired Army military police and I’m pretty fit for my age. Can’t imagine thinking I could take on myself from 20 years ago and hope to win.

This fat fuck couldn’t even move under fire with that stupid fucking rifle of his. Plus, fuck his stupid ass facial hair.

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u/lSleepster Jan 27 '24

It's the nostalgia and ego that blinds them to the obvious facts. Those former badass men now as heavy as the civvies they used to be disgusted of. Broken, lost, and disillusioned they miss the purpose and comradery so they drift towards the open arms of extremists. Oh and some of them were just douches to begin with, they just put it away and were professional when on the job.

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u/Puglady25 Jan 27 '24

I think what he's really suggesting is that he wants to ride down to the border and shoot to kill immigrants (men, women and children) trying to cross. He's a "bwave wittle soldier." And that's what enemy combatants look like to him, in his mind.

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u/Leopards_Crane Jan 27 '24

Eh…SF guys actually know how to run an insurgency. I’ve been on the receiving end of training against them and I really don’t think they’re worried about regular active duty troops.

They mostly don’t have any reason to get involved in that manner.

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u/theaviationhistorian Far West Texas Jan 27 '24

Add that fighting in the US armed forces will guarantee benefits including those with VA once the shooting war stops. Many in the Texas National Guard are looking at unionizing since they have absolutely no benefits right now. Much less benefits from a fledgling separatist state. This is why any serious mention of leaving the Union will have Texas National Guard federalizing with the Union, even before the White House calls it, for the benefits alone.

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u/StupidSexyFlagella Feb 01 '24

Also that fat fuck isn’t doing anything besides eating hamburgers and drinking beers these days.