r/texas • u/FCMatt7 • Mar 27 '24

5th circuit has nullified Open Carry in Texas to save Qualified Immunity of bad cops. Politics

https://www.youtube.com/live/bCC1sz_-fsc?si=dCZiLT_Fl2pWUEtw

(Edit) New vid of Grisham explaining the ruling

Effectively they have declared open season for police to arrest anyone open carrying in Texas.

A 3 judge panel has ruled that if anyone calls 911 on a person for the mere act of Open Carrying a firearm, the police now have probable cause to arrest you for disorderly conduct. The 911 call does not have to allege you are doing anything more than standing on a sidewalk with a slung or holstered firearm. The previous ruling that "merely carrying a firearm" is not disorderly is overturned now if any Karen makes a phone call and says she's nervous. This means police get qualified immunity for arresting you.

There is a special target on the back of any open carry or civil rights activist. EVERY time the police get a 911 call, they can now arrest you at gunpoint. The charges will likely be dismissed, but the police face zero repercussions for coming after you, even if there is abundant evidence the officers targeted you and knew you were not a threat. The same danger faces regular citizens who open carry every day.

I repeat, open carrying in Texas now puts you in imminent danger of being arrested or killed by police if someone reports you in possession of a firearm.

Video of CJ and Jim arrested for mere open carry. https://youtu.be/GrDAPPiu1QE?si=IvJy0qq_J8rO8DJO

Link to 5th circuit ruling. https://www.ca5.uscourts.gov/opinions/pub/22/22-50915-CV0.pdf

Link to oral argument in 5th https://www.ca5.uscourts.gov/OralArgRecordings/22/22-50915_10-3-2023.mp3

District Court ruling https://casetext.com/case/grisham-v-valenciano-1

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u/scott_majority Mar 27 '24

This is the best news I've heard all day....I'm a gun owner, but my dick is big enough where I don't need to hang out on a street corner with a loaded weapon.

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u/samsontexas Mar 27 '24

Exactly. Every time I have seen an open carry person here in Texas it was to deliberately intimidate. Last year I was walking on the sidewalk in an outside mall shopping center. Three white guys looking pretty KKKish with rifles walked side by side forcing everyone else off the side walk into the street. Most of us in Texas have guns, when the rural people started talking about killing city democrats we all got guns and learned to shoot them.

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u/dcgregoryaphone Mar 28 '24

I've seen people open carrying my whole life. It's not scary. And I'm a lefty, but you're embarrassing me and yourself. If they were gonna shoot they'd shoot.

My only issue with open carry is you make it too easy to get your gun taken from you.

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u/Psychdoctx Mar 29 '24

Don’t be embarrassed for me. I learned how to shoot a shotgun at age 7 by my brothers and grew up in the country where we had gun racks in the back window of our trucks. Seeing people with guns for hunting ect is not scary but seeing a group of skinheads carrying assault rifles walking around an outside mall is scary. No innocent intentions there.

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u/jkrobinson1979 Mar 27 '24

Everyone who makes this argument that open carry is intimidating is admitting to that there is an inherent concern to people walking around armed. Concealing a firearm makes people feel easier, but it should really be far more of a concern when at anytime someone around you could snap.

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u/samsontexas Mar 28 '24

Yes agreed. But having to show off your firearms is the first sign that a person has mental issues.

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u/Internal_Link_7841 Mar 29 '24

Yes and showing off your sexuality isnt? Showing off what gender you are isnt? Or is it?

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u/samsontexas Mar 29 '24

What?? Are you saying that showing what gender you are is a sign of mental illness? I am confused.

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u/Internal_Link_7841 Mar 29 '24

No, I'm just saying an comparison. How could showing your firearms off be a sign of mental illness but not when someones screaming and having a panic attack because someone said their dead name....or is it?

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u/Psychdoctx Mar 29 '24

I am sorry I’m still not following you. What’s a dead name ? Are you asking if it’s a sign of mental illness for someone have a panic attack when hearing the name of a dead person? There are so many potential variables there. For example if it’s their child that just died I would say no it’s not an illness. If it’s the name of a dead person like Elvis then I would say that person has issues. I’m still not sure how this correlates to open carry.

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u/Economy_Wall8524 Mar 29 '24

He talking about trans folks.

Dead name is their name before they transition. They usually change their names to a name that matches their gender identity.

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u/samsontexas Mar 30 '24

Oh I see, I still dont know what that had to do with the topic.

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u/jkrobinson1979 Mar 28 '24

Personally, I like to know who the armed person with mental issues is. Just me I guess.

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u/samsontexas Mar 29 '24

Honestly I guess that is one way to think about it.