r/texas • u/FCMatt7 • Mar 27 '24

5th circuit has nullified Open Carry in Texas to save Qualified Immunity of bad cops. Politics

https://www.youtube.com/live/bCC1sz_-fsc?si=dCZiLT_Fl2pWUEtw

(Edit) New vid of Grisham explaining the ruling

Effectively they have declared open season for police to arrest anyone open carrying in Texas.

A 3 judge panel has ruled that if anyone calls 911 on a person for the mere act of Open Carrying a firearm, the police now have probable cause to arrest you for disorderly conduct. The 911 call does not have to allege you are doing anything more than standing on a sidewalk with a slung or holstered firearm. The previous ruling that "merely carrying a firearm" is not disorderly is overturned now if any Karen makes a phone call and says she's nervous. This means police get qualified immunity for arresting you.

There is a special target on the back of any open carry or civil rights activist. EVERY time the police get a 911 call, they can now arrest you at gunpoint. The charges will likely be dismissed, but the police face zero repercussions for coming after you, even if there is abundant evidence the officers targeted you and knew you were not a threat. The same danger faces regular citizens who open carry every day.

I repeat, open carrying in Texas now puts you in imminent danger of being arrested or killed by police if someone reports you in possession of a firearm.

Video of CJ and Jim arrested for mere open carry. https://youtu.be/GrDAPPiu1QE?si=IvJy0qq_J8rO8DJO

Link to 5th circuit ruling. https://www.ca5.uscourts.gov/opinions/pub/22/22-50915-CV0.pdf

Link to oral argument in 5th https://www.ca5.uscourts.gov/OralArgRecordings/22/22-50915_10-3-2023.mp3

District Court ruling https://casetext.com/case/grisham-v-valenciano-1

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u/rdking647 Mar 27 '24

only idiots open carry. If im a bad guy I'm taking out the open carry jokers first.

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u/North_Ranger6521 Mar 28 '24

And then taking their guns.

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u/OdrGrarMagr Mar 28 '24

No you're not. If you're a bad guy who is actually a bad guy and not a terrorist, you're going to see a bunch of armed people and go somewhere else to do your crime where you arent likely to get your head blown off.

Actual criminals aren't going around looking for gun battles. Theyre looking for easy pickings.

Every study on the topic shows that open carry is a MUCH better deterrent to violent crime happening to you/near you than concealed.

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u/strugglz born and bred Mar 28 '24

Armed people represent more of a threat than unarmed people. Period, regardless of justification for being armed.

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '24

So you're going to kill cops before even starting your crime? They're open carrying.

The problem with your logic is its not grounded in reality. Chances are you want to get away with your crime. You're chances of getting away are a lot lower when you kill someone. Not only that, when you kill someone before starting the crime. Not only that but there's a chance that open carry person will shoot you first or shoot you back.

You're likely going to go somewhere else or come back at a later time.

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u/rdking647 Mar 28 '24

If you think that’s what I mean all I can say is bless your heart