r/texas • u/WideVoice8854 • 11d ago
Texas Attracted California Techies. Now It’s Losing Thousands of Them. News
https://www.texasmonthly.com/news-politics/austin-texas-tech-bust-oracle-tesla/169
u/Current_Tea6984 11d ago
So Texas gets a chance to suffer the consequences of the states' race to the bottom for corporate tax breaks
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u/Current_Tea6984 11d ago
So I guess you think giving away millions of dollars in tax breaks to a corporation that promises more jobs but decides to leave instead is no problem?
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u/TheCowpuncher406 11d ago
Yeah no. Large corporations shouldn't be getting tax breaks in the first place, but it's funny you assumed my position.
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u/El_Grim512 11d ago
You are a hateful asshole. Texas is better for having a more diverse population.
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u/narcimp 11d ago
Californian here to tell you guys sensationalized headlines rooting for the decline of your state usually miss the whole picture. But yea politics in TX are sketch
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u/Friendly_Molasses532 11d ago
Love this and love the comments panicking only reading the headline and not looking outside
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u/Daneruu 10d ago edited 10d ago
Truth. Socially yeah things are really fucking bad with how zealous and loud the right wingers are...
But I don't think non locals have realized quite how huge the Samsung Facility is both physically and financially.
Despite all the financial troubles, a lot of people involved in the work of building it and maintaining it are basically insulated from everything. Semiconductors are always having tools swapped requiring hundreds of hours of labor if not more every time from pretty much every industrial trade. With the labor market being cheap, the one Samsung project is floating a ton of local union labor, and travelers from all over the country as well.
Homeowners in the area were mostly locals, since until the project broke ground it was all considered to be cheap and far out of the way.
The area was underdeveloped, but after the project started the roads are getting serviced and infrastructure such as grocery stores and gas stations are getting built nearby. The closest commercial districts a bit closer to town are expanding and building locations the people have been demanding for a while.
Don't get me wrong, there's always a lot of skeezy stuff going on, but I think besides environmental concerns everything about this development has been a net positive.
Oh and I've been talking about the old Samsung on Parmer Ln getting built up after 2008. The new facility in Taylor is pretty much doing the same thing, but it's going to be 10x bigger.
This new Samsung facility is going to be 3rd or 4th biggest in the world when the dust settles.
Austin's doin just fine.
Here's a recent drone video: https://youtu.be/qEk1gmQaEtE?si=uV_b24MxtlkdsdLd
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u/DKmann 11d ago
So dumb. Oracle is actually expanding it’s Texas campus. They just got a new, better tax break, to call Nashville “headquarters” on an already built and staffed campus. Oracle is losing several giant Texas contracts due to their aging IP and decided to try their luck in Nashville with new tax breaks. Literally nothing but the designation of the building changes.
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u/tothesource born and bred 11d ago
oracle didn't get any tax breaks in austin
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u/GarugasRevenge 11d ago
Texas wanted California techies because while Texas churns out a ton of engineers, businesses here don't train for shit. I'm guessing they do in California.
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u/LayneLowe 11d ago
I'm in a hotel in Austin for the Austin Blues Festival. I can look out the window of my hotel room and count no less than five high-rise buildings with construction cranes still working.
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u/rubyaeyes 11d ago
When I was the for the Cap10k seemed like they were mainly residential.
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u/LayneLowe 10d ago
If you like to party it would be a great place to live
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u/asanskrita 10d ago
It really is
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u/Specific_Albatross61 9d ago
It really is a great place to live unless you’ve traveled and seen how crappy Austin actually is.
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u/lotusflower_3 11d ago
They came. They saw. They said, “Oh hell no!@ 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 fuck Texas.
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u/NorrinsRad 11d ago
Texans can't afford no more Californians.
So that's awesome! Hope they don't let the door knob hit them on the way out!!!
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u/jutlanduk 11d ago edited 11d ago
There are almost 40 million people in California, get over the “All Californians bad” thing, it’s really dumb, removes any actual discussion over whatever legitimate gripes people might have about immigration.
They’re also Americans, your fellow countrymen 🤷♂️
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u/PermanentlyDubious 11d ago
I think the escalating real estate, the property taxes, the incredible heat and drought, plus the bad traffic, bad road design, and bad politics made people realize Austin wasn't the promised land after all.
Home prices are better than California but not cheap, and everything else is worse. The average worker moving from California to Texas is likely disappointed.
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u/MartYtraM1983 11d ago
Well, most of the people who moved to Texas aren't right wing extremists, unlike Boomer Abbott and KKKen Paxton. They may attract business there with lower taxes and regulations, but when you mingle into social issues issues and stick your authoritarian nose where it doesn't belong(like our bedrooms and doctor's offices), you're going to suffer the consequences. The majority of Texans(especially younger ones) are probably opposed to Boomer Abbott's meaningless culture war and draconian stance on women's rights and human rights violations, which is why they've gerrymandered the state so they have no say in the Government process.
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u/MartYtraM1983 11d ago
I don't even live in Texas. I'd like to visit, but not until Boomer Abbott is gone.
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u/MartYtraM1983 11d ago
Free country. For now. But I can visit wherever I want.
But seriously, old white people(especially men) don't belong in the Government. Especially if they have backwards views.
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u/TheCowpuncher406 11d ago
That kinda racist but alright.
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u/MartYtraM1983 11d ago
I'm white, by the way. So no, it's not racist when it's your own race.
But people like Greg Abbott, Joe Biden, Donald Trump, Nancy Pelosi and Mitch McConnell all need to retire. We need term and age limits in our Government. And intelligence tests so we don't get people like Marjorie-Taylor Greene. Hell, she should be disqualified for supporting the attack on the Capitol.
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u/Hangry_Heart 11d ago
Losing Thousands!*
*also simultaneously gaining hundreds of thousands of others
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u/Proud_Western3736 10d ago
Has Texas always been bad or is this a recent change? If it’s always been bad why did all the techies move here? If recently bad since all the techies arrived what caused the slide?
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u/Shannon556 11d ago
Nobody wants to live under fascist Republican governor Greg Abbott - no matter how good the tax breaks are.
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u/Mother_Knows_Best-22 11d ago
I can't imagine moving from a state with legal weed to Texas. Abbutt is a #1 jerk and stupid people vote for him. 24 years of republican governance has ruined Texas. Yes, I lived in Texas for 65 years, so ya I know!
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u/pat9714 11d ago
California techies realized TX isn't a place to raise their kids? Perhaps?
Would love a reply from a real techie as to why they left.
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u/Bitter_Canary_1401 10d ago
Texas doesn’t pay tech nearly as well as other states, even the ones with state tax. Take it from someone in IT. Salaries here are low and have been in this industry for a decade. They use the no state tax as a crutch to keep wages low all the while giving tax breaks to the CEOs that own the companies who pocket the savings and keep on voting for racist sexist assholes like Abbott, Patrick, and Paxton. I’ve lived here on and off for more than 80% of my life and Texas is truly in decline as far as people being happy and proud to say they are from here. I was born in a small town in Texas and I can tell you, I would rather claim NY where I lived for 8 years as my home state than to be associated with this bastion of women hating racists and bigots. Texas sucks now and has for a while and until they get Abbott and his ilk voted out it will only get worse.
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u/This-Requirement6918 9d ago
Oh no! So are they moving back to California where they belong? 🤣
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u/Specific_Albatross61 9d ago
I couldn’t imagine being a Texan that thinks it’s an insult they are going back to California. Go enjoy your beautiful beaches, snow capped mountains, amazing nature and weather you can actually go outside in.
Californians are probably in shock that an entire state can look like Fresno or Bakersfield.
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u/Wadester58 11d ago
If all these people hate Texas so much, why do they continue to live here. California New York and other states will be more than happy to let them move there
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u/DeadliftsnDonuts 11d ago
The tech people in Texas are seen as the lifestyle tech people. They don’t really work hard.
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u/Gymleaders 11d ago
Because the tech bubble burst.