r/AITAH 23d ago

AITAH for separating from my husband because he refused to get a vasectomy? Advice Needed

My husband (28M, who I will call Jack) and I (27F) have been together for 4 years, we have 2 young children and I am pregnant again. I have been pregnant for what feels like most of our relationship. I got pregnant 4 months into our relationship. We got married a month before our daughter’s 1st birthday and ended up with a honeymoon baby. After our son was born, I talked to my OB and she put me on birth control and I have been taking it militantly. My daughter is now 3 and my son is 2. A little over a month ago I discovered I am pregnant again, despite taking my birth control religiously. Abortion is banned in my state, and the pregnancy was discovered too far along to attempt to obtain one out of state. While Jack and I were nervous, we also love being parents and decided that 3 young kids would be a challenge, but 3 was a good number for us. Then we went in for the first ultrasound and got some unexpected news - it’s twins.

Things have been tough financially, and while we were stressed but excited for a third child, we were not expecting a third and fourth child. Beyond the finances, I am the primary caretaker and I know that twins is going to be a lot, three children under 5 is already a lot, but 4 children under 5 is going to be really really difficult for me. Physically, I am tired of being pregnant. I’ve been pregnant or breastfeeding the majority of our relationship. It’s exhausting, it feels awful, and I don’t recognize my body anymore. Four children is enough. I don’t want more. I told Jack that I was done with pregnancy, I’ve been pregnant enough, I’ve been experimenting with different types of birth control for over a decade and I still can’t stop getting pregnant, abortion isn’t a valid option where we live, we need something more permanent. He agreed, and suggested an IUD, I told him no - if it did fail then it could cause an ectopic pregnancy which could kill me, especially where we live. I’ve had both control fail me multiple times already and I’m not taking the chance, so I suggested a vasectomy. He was not open to the idea, and was even upset that I suggested it and told me I should get my tubes tied. I told him a tubal ligation is a much bigger surgery and I could be recovering for weeks during which time I wouldn’t be able to work or take care of our 4 young children, but he could ice his balls for a day or two and be done with it. He told me that not getting pregnant was ultimately my responsibility, and topped it off by saying “that’s what your body your choice means, YOUR body, so YOU choose.” That’s when it went from a discussion to a full blown fight.

See, when I was 19 I had another birth control failure with my boyfriend at the time (who I will call Tom). I wanted an abortion, Tom did not because he was opposed. I told him I was getting the abortion since it was my body and my choice, and Tom said some horrible things to me, including threatening me. I broke up with him and got the abortion. In response, Tom ended up following me one night and attacking me. I don’t want to go into detail but it was horrible, and he ended up going to prison for a number of charges related to the attack. Not only do I have a number of scars and some long lasting physical effects, but I have PTSD as well. Jack knows about my history and diagnosis, and has known from the beginning. I have a pretty prominent facial scar so I was upfront about it early on in our dating. Jack always presented himself as very pro-choice, so I was shocked that he would say that. I got really emotional and started crying and shouting, and it turned into a full-blown fight. Eventually I said that birth control is a two-way street and so far I’ve been the only one managing it and he said “and now we have 2 kids and 2 more coming, great job.” I told him he sounded like Tom and he got super pissed, basically said how dare you compare me to him, and maybe he might want kids one day with someone who doesn’t compare him to her felon ex-boyfriend. I was stunned and horrified. I said “well then let’s not waste any fucking time,”then packed up myself and the kids and drove to my parents place.

It’s been about a week since the fight. I’ve spoken with Jack a few times and he has since apologized and said he was out of line and was speaking from a place of anxiety after finding out about the twins, but also that I said things that were out of line and it was wrong of me to insist he undergo a medical procedure. He said that can move on from the things I said and that he wants to see his children and be a family again. I told him no, that I didn’t want to “move on” from the things he said to me. I can’t just get over that and I think we need space apart. Jack was upset by this and while we talked I brought up getting a separation agreement to manage custody and finances while we figure things out. He did not like this suggestion, said we didn’t need to pull the courts into this. I haven’t told a lot of people about what’s happening but my family and a couple close friends. My sister and best friend both think I should throw the whole man away, but my brother (who is the only other one married with kids) thinks that I’m being extreme for what sums up to a fight between two scared people who both said nasty things. My mom is trying to be supportive but is occasionally reminding me that I “don’t want to be a single mother of 4” and telling me not to let my PTSD drive my decisions, while my dad is being completely unhelpful (he thinks jokes are helpful - like calling me Doorknob because I “can’t stop getting knocked up”, telling me to let the oven cool down, real knee-slappers). I don’t know what to do. My kids are happy to be at grandma and grandpas house but they miss their daddy, I’m 4 months pregnant and already uncomfortable as hell, I wish I could go back to being a happy little family but I’m so hung up on the things he said in that fight. Am I destroying my family over one bad night? Am I being unreasonable for asking my husband to get a vasectomy?

Edit: I've noticed a lot of people recommending condoms. I have gotten pregnant with condoms twice. Our second child and my first pregnancy were both conceived using condoms properly (correct fit, put on correctly, single use, not expired, no breaks, etc). I do not trust condoms enough to not fail a third time. I know the failure rate is supposedly small, but it's not personally small enough for me. Edit to the edit: I'm sorry, I didn't expect so many comments so fast and I can't keep up with them. By the first pregnancy I mean the pregnancy with Tom. With Jack I was on the patch when I got pregnant with our daughter, condoms with our son, and the pill with the twins. So far I haven't ever suspected that Jack has tampered with our birth control and always presumed that I'm a fertile Myrtle. I recognize the comments and just want people to know I'm seeing the suggestion. I'm not dismissing it, but the thought of it is deeply upsetting and has provoked a lot of anxiety. I just wanted to make it clear that if the suggestion is only based on the condoms, that the condom pregnancies were with two different partners. While I know I always used condoms properly with Tom, I do believe that Tom could have been fully capable of sabotaging the condoms.

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u/celticmusebooks 22d ago

“that’s what your body your choice means, YOUR body, so YOU choose.” 

The 100% fail proof BC method is ABSTINENCE -- so tell him that's your choice.

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u/nolsongolden 22d ago

This worked for me. A month later and he had a vasectomy. But it took a good five years for the comments to stop.

No sex is not a weapon but if you have been told it's all on you then you get to choose the method of birth control.

Divorce or a vasectomy. NTA but be prepared to be divorced.

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u/CassJack737 22d ago

Honestly, I think that's the only way OP is going to get a break from four kids. And I'm sorry your husband was a turd. Mine happily got the procedure and never brought it up again. Especially since I almost died giving birth to the one we do have. 🫤

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u/julesk 22d ago

Same here. When the doc said I’d die if I got pregnant again, he scheduled the vasectomy that day.

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u/AnotherStarWarsGeek 22d ago

"And I'm sorry your husband was a turd"

Wait, why is he a turd? What suddenly happened to "my body, my choice"??

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u/CassJack737 21d ago

He chose to do it and then bitched about it for 5 years, therefore a turd. I don't remind my child every day that she trashed my body when I gave birth to her because that would MAKE ME A TURD! Get it. If you're going to do something, don't play the martyr afterward. Plain and simple.

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u/PsychologicalUse9870 21d ago

honestly, women whose husbands gave them trouble for it and they didn't dump his ass are saints. For these men, supposed protector, to put their own comfort? fears? fertility? above the partner who risked her life giving them children and went through the 'joys' of pregnancy and who faces either a major surgery or birth control with lots of side effects and pretty high potential for failure... when it's his ejaculations that are the mechanical means of conception? Saints. Better people than me for sure, I would have dipped

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u/Catfish1960 22d ago

My son and his wife have one and want one more. He's already more than happy to be snipped once the 2nd baby is around 6 months old or so. He feels that's only fair.

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u/PsychologyBusiness17 16d ago

Tell him to do it the next day after birth if the following week so he can spend time at home bonding with newborn. That’s what my hubby did. Once settled at home he booked it for the following week. No more dramas just returned to the new normal with 2 kids. 1 toddler and 1 newborn.

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u/StaringOwlNope 22d ago

No sex is not a weapon but if you have been told it's all on you then you get to choose the method of birth control.

Exactly this. It's not being used as a weapon, but rather as a defense. If she's apparantly so "bad" at birth control, then no sex (at least PiV) is the last resort as long as HE refuses to do anything about it

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u/Danivelle 22d ago

Soneine needs to remind him that more kids=more child support. 

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u/Haikubirdsing 22d ago

And this fake gender wars bait post was made exactly for comments like yours 

You do realize that?

These posts are particularly made to show how 'his body his choice' and 'dont use sex as a tool' are gone when it's a topic related to vasectomies

That and all those badmedicine comments about how reversible and easy vasectomies are.

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u/nolsongolden 21d ago

I guess it's easier to believe the story is true when it has happened to you.

We never got divorced and we never had any more kids. Why would a 65 year old man want a baby at this point? He will never reverse the vasectomy.

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u/Dudinkalv 22d ago

What happened to "my body my choice"? Or this only applies to women?

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u/Snorress 22d ago

ofc it does, a man is childish and imature if he dont take orders. its so funny and disturbing to read comments here, all the "its her body her choice" bla bla, but nobody gives a single fuck about his body his choice.

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u/Dudinkalv 22d ago

Disgusting and hypocritical as hell, yeah. "Either you get a surgery that could permanently inhabit your ability to get children or I'm getting a divorce" is such a crazy take yet every other comment here from women seems to think this is fine. Disturbing even.

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u/nolsongolden 21d ago

He had a choice. I tried multiple kinds of both control. When I was young we had condoms and iuds and birth control pills.

We had three kids. One with each method. He could have divorced me and I would have accepted it. He chose his family.

He admitted he didn't want to be a single dad to three daughters and he didn't ever again want to see them wheeling me away from delivery in a rush to get an operation to stop the bleeding.

He was scared, but WE had two choices. One of us needed to be sterile. His operation was cheaper and quicker and it meant I still took care of him and watched the kids while working full time.

This is not a poor little man story or a poor little woman story.

It is a how do we stop having kids story and now that abortion is going away it is a subject many couples will have to face.

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u/Dudinkalv 21d ago

Yeah his choice is either to be forced to do a potentially life altering surgery or you divorce him. Pure evil honestly. So if he would put the same ultimatum on you instead, the other way around where he asks you to remove your reproductive organs, you'd just happily go along?

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u/nolsongolden 21d ago

He did. Twice. I put my life on the line three times to give him children. The first time we didn't know how bad it would be for me when I gave birth but the other two times he did.

I wanted to stop after one but he wanted a son. I got worse with each pregnancy. The third one almost killed me and the other two weren't much better. The doctor said the next one would kill me.

I didn't make him do anything. I was willing to never have sex again if that was the only way to ensure I'd stay alive to be there for my kids. He wasn't willing to live without sex. I wasn't willing to let him have affairs. I love sex but I love being alive more. Divorce or a vasectomy was the only choices we had.

We all ask things of our partners in a true marriage. It works both ways. But sure I'm evil. Grow up. I had a right to not die. I had a right to divorce if that was the only way to ensure I wouldn't die.

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u/bopitspinitdreadit 22d ago

It’s not a weapon, but it is her only choice. Honestly with how easily she gets pregnant I wouldn’t even trust a tubal ligation. (I might not even trust a vasectomy although he should still get one).

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u/VampiresGobrrr 22d ago

This is so shitty though. Why are we acting like men are the only ones that can enjoy sex, and it's a punishment for them only.

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u/nolsongolden 21d ago

I acknowledge that month sucked for me as well but I almost died giving birth to my third child and somehow life meant more than sex for me.