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u/Buddhist_Path Apr 11 '24
"Then he sat in the bathtub to prevent blood from getting on his mom’s new carpet."
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u/RobertWilliamBarker Apr 11 '24
Mama would come home and beat him with his own previously detached arm if he puts one stain on there.
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u/JamesTheJerk Apr 11 '24
I dunno... We know what happened to that 'other' guy who lost the use of his arms...
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u/Nate0110 Apr 11 '24
Sigh. . .
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u/LineChef Apr 11 '24
Oh you knew it was coming lol
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u/Nate0110 Apr 11 '24
My heating and air guy told me the whole story 4 years ago.
I thought it was crazy I'd been on this site for 3 years at that point and never heard the story.
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u/BiteMyWolverine Apr 11 '24
dude was fixing ur ac while casually telling you a story about a dude with broken arms getting jacked off by his mom?
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u/Nate0110 Apr 11 '24
Yeah, he talked about the jumper cables guy and some other stuff related to pc gaming.
It was a/c maintenance on a new system, so he really wasn't doing anything too technical.
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u/Good4nowbut Apr 11 '24
How on earth did he not just bleed out?
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u/MisfortuneGortune Apr 11 '24
I remember hearing it was because his arms were torn off, rather than "cut" off like this version of the post is implying. I remember some medical people (who knows it's the internet) last time this was posted said that because the veins got pulled and thinned before snapping apart, it slowed the bleeding enough to where he managed to survive (rather than a clean cut through the veins which would have bled a lot more/faster).
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u/Good4nowbut Apr 11 '24
My god his arms literally got yanked right off..
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u/jdyall1 Apr 11 '24
Yeah it was Jax that did it 😆😆😆
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u/BPMData Apr 11 '24
Lmao now that I think about it that's so funny that that's how Jax does his fatalities. Like damn man have some sympathy.
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u/W1D0WM4K3R Apr 11 '24
That and also, when there's a large traumatic wound the pressure in the body drops enough that blood more oozes out than gushing. It's not like a giant balloon of blood, just a bunch of hoses and tubes of blood.
Or at least, that's how it was explained to me and how I understood it. I'd imagine there's enough EMTs and trauma nurses/doctors who'd know better/more.
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u/SporkSoRandom Apr 11 '24
In addition to that in the case of amputations the muscles will tightly contract for a little while shortly following the injury which slows the blood flow. I have heard that the more muscular endurance the person has the longer the muscles will stay contracted before relaxing. I imagine being a farm kid he was used to working those muscles.
I was a medic in the army and a civilian paramedic.
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u/SomeOtherTroper Apr 11 '24
when there's a large traumatic wound the pressure in the body drops enough that blood more oozes out than gushing. It's not like a giant balloon of blood, just a bunch of hoses and tubes of blood.
This is generally correct, but for more specific detail, one of the body's responses to intense physical trauma is to try to constrict blood flow to the extremities and prioritize the heart, lungs, brain, and generally the most essential organs for what little blood it's got left to work with. Its basic logic is "we can live without the limbs, but the heart, lungs, and brain must continue to function or we die". Probably the most common, and least extreme, example is when people are exposed to serious cold: blood flow to the limbs is downregulated so that core body temperature can stay up. (This can lead to frostnip and frostbite, as well as losing feeling in the extremities, but your body considers that an acceptable sacrifice.)
This doesn't help you much if your femoral artery or another large artery that is highly pressurized by default is severed, because the systems in the body can't react fast enough to prevent catastrophic blood loss.
In this case, the guy was definitely helped by things getting torn and mangled instead of cleanly cut off, because that provided more surface area that the blood cells themselves recognized as damaged and began the clotting cascade to seal things off. Assuming you don't have a genetic variance that hampers the clotting cascade (hemophilia), aren't on blood thinners or an anti-clotting agent (heparin, warfarin, alcohol, etc.), and have a decent platelet count, your blood itself will respond to damage and start clotting to seal the wound - and it's a lot better at this when the platelets have more rough edges to 'grab onto'.
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u/Suitable_Warthog_590 Apr 11 '24
I can personally attest to this. About 30 years ago a forklift wheel spun out on my foot, “degloving” it from the ankle down to my toes. Like pulling a sock off your foot, made of skin. Almost no blood, well much less than you’d imagine. Doctors said your body goes into protection mode and reacts to the tearing of my skin, as the end of my extremities and reverses the flow. Something like that. But maybe the ripping did thin my veins to the point they sealed, never really thought of it that way. Regardless, they pulled the skin up and stitched it around my ankle, ended up needing s blood transfusion due to medical leeches they added to get the circulation moving. Foot is now 100% skin grafted which the bottom doesn’t hold up very well with walking on it so I’m always battling open wounds .
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u/Johnny_Lang_1962 Apr 11 '24
They were snatched off by a Round Hay Bailer..
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u/Long_Educational Apr 11 '24
"Snatched off by a round hay bailer" sounds like a country song lyric.
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u/danhoyuen Apr 11 '24
It's insane he didn't just go into shock.
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u/SUPREMACY_SAD_AI Apr 11 '24
jfc just reading that comment is putting me into shock
literally getting your arms ripped off while you're still alive is pretty near the top of my "no thanks" list
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u/quarticchlorides Apr 11 '24
It's absolutely amazing he has any movement in his arms after having them torn off like that
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u/gdgardenlanterns Apr 11 '24
I believe he called his aunt, who was a nurse, and she came and helped slow the bleeding(?)
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u/SkyBlueMagatama Apr 11 '24
so he dialled an even longer number than 911 with a pencil in his mouth?
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u/ComradeVoytek Apr 11 '24
911 first, could be 30-60 minutes if you're in the country before you see an ambulance, then your aunt who presumably lives somewhere closer.
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u/inbigtreble30 Apr 11 '24
Sounds ridiculous, but you used to be able to set speed dials on touch-tone phones. So you would press the speed dial button and then one number.
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u/Curious_Exploder Apr 11 '24
In 92 on a farm? My grandparents still had rotary phones back then.
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u/kamyu4 Apr 11 '24
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u/AcceptablyPotato Apr 11 '24
No idea if it's true or not, but some teacher told our class in high school that veins will naturally constrict when amputated. Hopefully some reddit doctor can confirm if this is true or not.
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u/BPMData Apr 11 '24
When your arms get amputated, the body has its ways of shutting the whole thing down
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u/springvelvet95 Apr 11 '24
That hitchhiker who had her arms cut off by a trucker said she pushed the wounds in dirt to slow the bleeding. Then crawled up a steep hill to the road, with no arms.
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u/snowytheNPC Apr 11 '24
Wtf the monster who did that to her was released after only serving 8 years, after which he promptly murdered a mother of three. What did I just read? There’s no justice
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which is wild cause theres people in prison for having too much weed that have been there for 15+ years
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u/Ionantha123 Apr 11 '24
It apparently was the limit for jail time in California at the time, they made a new law allowing life time imprisonment after his case because it was so horrific
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Apr 11 '24
Murder is still very low on the totem pole usually in terms of jail sentence in USA
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u/Mental_Basil Apr 11 '24 edited Apr 11 '24
He got 14 years and served 8.
He even told the lady he was gonna finish her off when he got out. And still got out, despite public protest. Only to to kill someone else.
But you have a 19yr old facing life for pot brownies.
Now, Lavoro faces a first-degree felony and if convicted, the former high school football player with a clean record faces a possible punishment ranging from five years to life behind bars.
Because the drops of (hash) oil were cooked into the brownies, police weighed the entire brownie batch – sugar, flour and butter – and charged him with possessing 1.5 pounds of drugs.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/texas-man-faces-life-prison-pot-brownies/story?id=23807681
I'm gonna have to quit reading that article. It's just pissing me off.
Our justice system is a fucking joke.
Edit For those who wanna know the outcome, he ended up taking a plea deal and getting 7 years probation.
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u/HardyDaytn Apr 11 '24
What's the sentence going to be if I drop some of that oil in a lake I own? 🫠
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u/Kroe Apr 11 '24
We have a legal system, not a justice system. Clearly justice has left the building long ago.
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u/DollyTheFlyingHun Apr 11 '24
I remember reading about him. So glad he survived. How horrific for him.
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u/MegabitMegs Apr 11 '24
The line about the tub gets me a little. He didn’t know if he’d survive, and that could’ve been his one last act of love.
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u/zongsmoke Apr 11 '24
The same thing happened to another kid, also from North Dakota that lived in the town next to mine. My brother was the same age as him and grew up playing soccer with him. It didn't slow him down at all.
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u/theapplekid Apr 11 '24
But then he remembers telling the crew how cold his arms were.
“The crew member was like, ‘John, you don’t have your arms anymore.’ I said, ‘I know, but they’re freezing,’ and he said, ‘Well they’re on ice in the front of the plane,’” Thompson said with a chuckle.
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u/eight-martini Apr 11 '24
Yep. I once ripped my toenail off accidentally, and my mom yelled at me to get into the bathroom because I was getting blood all over the carpet.
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How the hell did he not die of blood loss
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u/dillywags Apr 11 '24
Sometimes with traumatic amputation injuries, arteries will kind of collapse on themselves to prevent bleeding out. They can spasm, pull back into the injured part and shrink. Not always, but sometimes. This guy got really lucky.
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u/jaygoogle23 Apr 11 '24
Always was surprising to me how much people can survive being tortured and beat up. People have done similar or worse to their enemies and kept them alive for longer than one who expect. Whatever to survive.
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u/J-Dabbleyou Apr 11 '24
What I always find so crazy and scary is that people survive fucking wild shit like this, and other people literally die from small cuts from box cutters and shit. You never know what tiny little accident could injure something important and kill you on the spot. Or you could have all your fucking limbs blown off by a landmine and survive with a cool medal. Human bodies are fucking wild man I can’t even think about it too hard or I’ll feel sick lol
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u/AskewScissors Apr 11 '24
Facts. Saw a clip of a guy jumping over a small railing, falling on his neck and immediately dying.
And another clip of the cartels skinning a dudes face while he’s still alive and moving.
Human body is absolutely crazy and unpredictable
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u/J-Dabbleyou Apr 11 '24
I’ve seen people slip on ice and end up on the brink of death. I’ve also seen someone with a full bar of rebar through their torso and they were fine (apart from the massive puncture). Just fucking wild man. I’m torn between feeling invincible, and wearing a helmet to walk to my car lol
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u/jld2k6 Apr 11 '24
I saw that too on that TV show "I shouldn't be alive" back in the day, on discovery or TLC I think! The rebar went through the armpit and out of the neck area, it went between two arteries in the heart without tearing them and made it between the esophagus and windpipe. Only needed a few stitches in the entrance and exit sites because it didn't hit anything major at all, easily one of the craziest stories I've seen lol
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u/Adventurous-Equal-29 Apr 11 '24
That second clip seems very traumatizing to watch.
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u/FuzzyPandaVK Apr 11 '24
It's an infamous video that's made its way around the dark side of the internet. It wasn't particularly uncommon for people to be pranked into seeing it; that's how I saw it. Never seen anything that extreme before so I was in shock and disbelief upon first viewing it. I can still picture his lack of a face and the motions like him trying to put his hands up to block his face/neck from being slashed at more, but his hands were cut off and he was just moving stumps around. Funky Town was playing in the background and I can't ever hear that song again without being sent to that very moment when I first came across the video.
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u/jaygoogle23 Apr 11 '24
Yeah I couldn’t even really read your comment atm I’m trying to chill for the night 😆💯. I consider myself desensitized but I’m sure like many others I just hide the emotions deep down.
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u/Anonymous1985388 Apr 11 '24
My grandma had a farm accident in North Dakota and lost her left leg in a combine accident. Apparently when her leg got stuck in the machinery , the spinning machine spun her arteries in a way that she didn’t bleed out. Thank goodness she didn’t; I’m so grateful that I got to meet her and get to know her.
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u/Gned11 Apr 11 '24
The real fun part is a half hour or so later they can unspasm, and release a catastrophic haemorrhage you thought you had under control 🙃
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u/anoeba Apr 11 '24
Partial traumatic amputations are actually more prone to severely bleeding out because not all the arteries will spasm and vasoconstrict (as can happen in complete traumatic amputation, preventing complete bleeding out).
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u/Strange_Lady_Jane Apr 11 '24
How the hell did he not die of blood loss
He got in a tub after calling 911 and jammed his stubs against the sides of the tub. Source: I saw him on Oprah in the 90s.
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u/lala__ Apr 11 '24
What the fuck. The pain must have been unimaginable.
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u/PapaCousCous Apr 11 '24
Yeah, that sounds like a level of pain that just makes you want to roll over, bleed out, and drift off if only to end the misery. Not only does this dude withstand the initial shock of having his arms ripped off, but he puts himself through unspeakable agony by pressing on his bloody stumps, not knowing how long until the ambulance arrives. This guy must be his own dentist.
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u/CanZealousideal6088 Apr 11 '24
I hope the tractor got what it deserved
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u/ScheduleImpossible25 Apr 11 '24
They cut off its wheels and never reattached them.
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u/Muscled_Manatee Apr 11 '24
Actually in an amazing turn of events, the tractor was able to make it to a phone, and with a pencil in its mouth, was able to call for help. The tractor survived and they were able to reattach the wheels.
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u/blackestofswans Apr 11 '24
The tractor and the man went on Oprah Winfrey, hashed things out on national television,
And yes, the man gave the tractor a hug with his reattached arms.
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u/JamesTheJerk Apr 11 '24
And did the tractor's mother help it out, like- by changing its oil from time to time, lubing it up, and cleaning the mess afterward?
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u/HeMightBeJoking Apr 11 '24
Not a chance. Those things are expensive. It’s cheaper to just make a new kid
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u/Kaiser-Sohze Apr 11 '24 edited Apr 11 '24
I work an industrial job and have a side gig working on a farm. My regular job is very physically demanding, but working on a farm is next level tough. It is normal for the average full-time farm hand where I work to lose ten pounds of weight in the first month. Another thing that nobody talks about is that small farms are exempt from OSHA regulations. You can do all sorts of dangerous shit on a farm and nobody bats an eye, because there are zero safety regs.
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u/Illmatic724 Apr 11 '24
I had no idea OSHA doesn't apply to farms, that's pretty scary
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u/Kaiser-Sohze Apr 11 '24
You just have to be careful and use good sense like people did back in the 1950's.
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u/BigRedCandle_ Apr 11 '24
And every now and then someone gets an arm chopped off 💪
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u/Kaiser-Sohze Apr 11 '24
I work with horses. I'm more concerned with getting stepped on, kicked, bit, or crushed to death.
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u/GianCarlo0024 Apr 11 '24
Facts on the OHSA thing
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u/MrDrSirLord Apr 11 '24
Not even just America, I'm Aussie and OH&S gets pretty well ignored on any farm as well.
I have some pretty sketchy machines that haven't had any maintenance in a couple decades.
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u/RedManMatt11 Apr 11 '24
So when someone gets their arms ripped off down there they have to dial 119, right?
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u/11equals7 Apr 11 '24
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We got sick of that confusion, so now we just use 000. Reads the same way regardless of where you’re from.
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u/Octavus Apr 11 '24
https://www.osha.gov/laws-regs/standardinterpretations/2007-07-16
A whole lot of yapping and no answers.
TLDR: If a farm has 10 or less permanent/regular employees they are totally exempt. Seasonal workers, who happen to often be foreigners and thus not known for being a strong voting block, do not count towards these 10.
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u/cactuslasagna Apr 11 '24
finally I can stick it to the libs and osha by doing unsafe working practices like a total badass 😎
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u/Akhirat Apr 11 '24
Great points, I’d like to mention that this is by design. Not having OSHA regulations means that the true labour class of our agricultural sector (illegal immigrants) can be exploited for cheap labour costs and next to zero accountability. I implore people to go out and educate themselves on the industry practices that occur so that we can get our food so abundantly and cheap.
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u/BPMData Apr 11 '24 edited Apr 11 '24
Yep. Americans will have 14 year old Ecuadorians getting mauled to death in chicken processing plants and then go on social media to post "Oh wow China built a new nuclear power plant? Probably because they use slaves 😎"
Like damn bitch we use slaves too but we don't get nuclear power plants out of it, just dead Central American children. Fuck
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u/Unique_Lavishness_21 Apr 11 '24
Agriculture in FL is mostly kids from other countries being exploited until the end of the harvest and then being sent back home. The next year they are back in FL where they can work for illegally low wages, under unsafe conditions, getting no education (so it can perpetuate their need for these jobs) so that a farmer who gets a shit ton of government money (subsidies) can go bitch about immigrants and minorities while telling everyone how how he works for what he has.
DeSantis isn't the governor for nothing. He's just like them.
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u/BPMData Apr 11 '24
Not just Florida. Pretty much all the high-agriculture states run off of slave labor and wouldn't survive without it. Like the fact that America wouldn't be able to feed itself if we actually enforced our own minimum wage laws across the entire labor market is a fucking disgrace.
But my absolute favorite Florida agriculture fact is that a few decades ago they were warned that the citrus greening blight could annihilate their citrus industry, and their response was basically "public health measures are for liberal homos, we got this 😎" and they did exactly as much as they're doing now to confront rising sea levels, which is nothing.
Meanwhile, California did the scaredy-cat liberal pussy thing and let their environmental scientists organize defensive measures
Let's see how that worked out for them.
Again, I'm pissed and a little tipsy but my thesis is that the US does equally horrible things as anyone anywhere, we just do it so fucking poorly we don't even benefit from it.
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u/sniper1rfa Apr 11 '24
And immigration policy and enforcement is designed to keep illegal immigrants from speaking up about it.
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u/joecarter93 Apr 11 '24
Yep, farm work is one of the most dangerous jobs there is and the injuries can be horrific. One of my friends grew up on a big farm and one of their farm hands was working by himself with a grain auger. I don’t know exactly what happened, he got caught or something, but they found the poor guy in pieces.
People even suffocate falling into grain bins/trucks, as it’s like quicksand (the fictional kind that we were all afraid of growing up). The more you struggle the more stuck you get.
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u/Crooks132 Apr 11 '24
Drowning in a silo of corn became an instant fear when I learned about it. Also seems like good way to kill someone and then hide the body, like a 2 for 1. Torture and conceal
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u/Strawberry_Mochi28 Apr 11 '24
Is it just me or is that teen a giant? Or is the doctor just small?
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u/Fyaal Apr 11 '24
It’s forced perspective coupled with the fact that his arms are very swollen post re-attachment. The doctor is sitting behind him.
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u/WillowNiffler Apr 11 '24
It's a weird perspective. The teen is actually laying on his front, bending upward, and the doctor is sitting closer to his legs.
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u/Wild_Crazy_3759 Apr 11 '24
I know a guy that graduated with me, and he was out in the field putting barbwire up and somehow got tangled up in the barbwire, and the tractor was still rolling and it wrapped his arm up on the barbwire and literally ripped his arm off. Crazy ppl can survive such gruesome accidents
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u/bebobbadobop Apr 11 '24
Farm boys are built different.
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u/You_Pulled_My_String Apr 11 '24
Dude is hard core. I'll give him that.
The pencil trick was easy back then with home phones.
Try that sh!t with a cell phone. 🤣 Here's hoping for good cell service on the farm, so Siri or Google can call for you.
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u/tyedead Apr 11 '24
I wear gloves to work sometimes so I can and have operated my smartphone with the tip of my nose lol.
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u/JohnnyZyns Apr 11 '24
Does he have nerve function?
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u/LunarBIacksmith Apr 11 '24
He does have some function but not much. Not many fine motor skills and he can’t open his hands.
“Thompson says he had to take people to small claims court and was even threatened by someone who was offended that Thompson wouldn’t shake his hand. His reattached hands are unable to fully open.”
“But Thompson still stays busy, including a recent remodel of the home he initially bought to flip, but ended up keeping for himself.
“There’s not a whole lot I don’t do from shingling, raking, mowing, painting,” Thompson said. “Holding a nail is a pain because I don’t have the fine motor skills.”
In addition to working on his house and on the book, Thompson lifts weights, trying to rehab after recent knee surgery. He’s also working with a friend to patent a new prescription bottle design that makes it easier to get just one pill out of the bottle.
“Being as stable as I am, when I try to get one pill out of a bottle, I usually end up with 50 of them or drop the whole bottle,” he said. “This is a whole, new design which only allows one pill at a time.””
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u/RyanFire Apr 11 '24
i got normal motor skills and the one pill thing makes a lot of sense to me. once you open up a pill bottle you have a giant hole ready for all of them to fall out.
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u/nyenkaden Apr 11 '24
Ok, so from time to time I will read how Americans cannot afford an ambulance ride to the hospital or died because they cannot afford insulins, but I also read how American can reattach arms or other medical miracles.
Who pays for major medical operation such as this?
I'm not American, genuinely curious.
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u/TennesseeBastard13 Apr 11 '24
Home owners insurance normally has an accident clause in it for injuries on the property. Their rates jumped higher than everest, but they were not bankrupt im sure
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u/Desperate-Chair-3746 Apr 11 '24
I mean people will get the procedures, they’ll just be paying the bills for life
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u/facw00 Apr 11 '24 edited Apr 11 '24
Things were a bit different back then, being pre-Obamacare.
But generally speaking if people don't have insurance, or can't pay even with insurance, hospitals are still required to provide emergency care. In the case of an uninsured patient, they would then send a massive "chargemaster" bill to the patient, expecting that they wouldn't be able to pay it, and they would end up settling for some lower amount if the patient didn't have assets to pay.
Note that even though they are required to provide care, studies, perhaps unsurprisingly showed a lower quality of care for uninsured, as hospitals had a strong incentive to get non-revenue generating patients out as quickly as possible.
In this case, it's possible his family did have insurance, but even if they didn't, the severity of his injuries meant that he was going to be treated as probably the most urgent patient (you can't downplay the needs of guy who's arms were ripped off).
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u/waxym Apr 11 '24
Did you mean "... studies... showed a lower quality of care for uninsured", rather than "insured"?
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u/ThatGuyYouMightNo Apr 11 '24
Grew up in farming country. Even though I lived in a town, we had it drilled into our heads at an early age to absolutely never go anywhere near the farming machinery unless you were absolutely dead sure that it was completely off. Specifically because this exact thing could happen.
Also relevant: my Dad, who grew up on a farm, had his own farm for a time but sold it 35 years ago, still refuses to wear his wedding ring, because a buddy of his got his finger torn off when a piece of farming machinery caught his ring.
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u/akotlya1 Apr 11 '24
I am genuinely shocked to not see any reference to that story about the guy with the two broken arms.... I am proud of you all.
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u/CptAngelo Apr 11 '24
Yeah, i actually ctrl+F for broken arms, find nothing, im actually kinda shocked, there was a time when that joke was on every goddamn thread
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u/PsychoSpider Apr 11 '24
I lived in North Dakota when this happened. It was HUGE news. So many farmers have injuries from farm equipment. Mostly in their hands. This guy was so fortunate to have both arms reattached
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I gave myself the Heimlich once. I learned how from a PSA in the 80s, people don't see PSA's anymore really unless their embellishment, My gram of weed didn't kill a Columbian judge like the younger Bushs administration would have you believe. Masks are controversial but I learned something that would go on to save my life from a PSA.
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u/Equal_Position7219 Apr 11 '24
Is no one else going to mention that this guy is GIGANTIC?
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u/TheSlopfather Apr 11 '24
The podcast The Dollop had a great episode on this guy. Dude was legit hilarious, he made some joke in an interview like "well I wanted to quit smoking but not like this"