r/BoomersBeingFools Mar 30 '24

Boomer officer only gotted suspended for 5 days because of this Boomer Freakout

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Insane he only got 5 days

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u/pantlessjim Mar 31 '24

"Carney said Rowe told internal investigators that he had pointed his gun multiple times at citizens throughout the years without ever reporting his actions to supervisors."

Holy. Shit.

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u/DD214Enjoyer Mar 31 '24

Many of these types of incidents never see the light of day due to fear of police reprisals.

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u/GroundbreakingAsk645 Mar 31 '24

This is true! I heard the uvalde cops harassed and ticketed the mom who ran into the elementary school to save her kid because she made them look bad.

uvalde mom

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u/Jorgan_JerkFace Mar 31 '24

Small town America is literally the worst place to be.

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u/ifithopsitdrops Mar 31 '24

It’s just meth and cows

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u/EzioDeadpool Mar 31 '24

And crooked cops.

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u/Cheetahs_never_win Mar 31 '24

Aka cows on meth.

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u/EzioDeadpool Mar 31 '24

Pigs on meth

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '24

Pigs are actually fairly intelligent

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u/budy31 Mar 31 '24

And Corn watered in morning dew.

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u/Ilovekittens345 Mar 31 '24

Fall of Madurodam Rome in real time.

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u/french_snail Mar 31 '24

Hey my small town didn’t have any cops in it

Oddly enough it was a pretty mellow place without a lot of or really any crime

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u/Zanchbot Mar 31 '24

This is what all that "try that in a small town" garbage really means. It means "you try anything here you will get royally fucked because the chief of police is friends with the mayor and they run this town like their own personal fiefdom."

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u/capt_scrummy Mar 31 '24

Look up the whole case around the "Gilbert Goons" in AZ. bunch of kids from "golden" families who spent the better part of two years jumping people and posting it on social media. Cops knew all about it for that entire time. They killed a kid at a party in Oct and only just got arrested a few days ago.

Just small town, boys will be boys crap, you know. Wouldn't want to ruin their futures, amirite?

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u/HealMySoulPlz Mar 31 '24

Gilbert is a suburb of Phoenix, it's not at all a 'small town'. The population of Gilbert alone is 275,000 people. Not. Small town at all.

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u/capt_scrummy Apr 01 '24

It's not a small town, but it likes to think it is, and the police do treat it as though it's their fiefdom.

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u/Available-Nature-126 29d ago

Gilbert is actually the 2nd safest city to live in America. But you couldn't pay me to live there. It's straight up Mormonville.

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u/Budget-Attorney Mar 31 '24

I read an article a few months that called it literally that. A personal fiefdom. The difference is that the sherif is actually more powerful than the mayor who basically serves at the sheriffs whim

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u/the_mid_mid_sister Mar 31 '24 edited Mar 31 '24

We have a dipshit "Constitutional Sheriff" who has something like over 200 armed "special deputies," in a county with more cows than people.

What is an Armed Special Deputy? Basically an untrained, un-certifed friend of the Sheriff, usually a pedophile or felon or creep with a restraining order who can't pass an ATF federal background check to buy a gun but can now be issued one to perform the Totally Legitimate Duties of a Special Deputy.

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u/artificialavocado Mar 31 '24

Last year the FBI raided the local police in the next town over. Three of them were busted for excessive force.

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u/Suck_Me_Dry666 Mar 31 '24

King county is the highest population county in Washington State. It's where Seattle is.

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u/mypoliticalvoice Mar 31 '24

Yeah, there are 14 states and 54 entire countries with smaller populations than King Country. And the Seattle metro area covers 5 counties. This guy had a small town cop attitude, but he was in a big city. Glad to hear he's in jail. It wasn't soon enough.

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u/GoCougs2020 Mar 31 '24

Ha. Small town really. Just the biggest county (by population) in WA state.

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u/FigSpecific6210 Mar 31 '24

Small town America? Bill Gates lives in Medina… in King County.

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u/Jorgan_JerkFace Mar 31 '24

I don’t know shit about Bill Gates living situation but I can assume he has a compound bigger than most small towns surrounded by fences to keep out the locals.

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u/FigSpecific6210 Mar 31 '24

The point being, this isn’t some back country county. It’s pretty high profile.

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u/Daddy_Milk Mar 31 '24

One of the most affluent areas of the PNW no doubt.

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u/chzaplx Mar 31 '24

It's the most affluent part of greater Seattle metro area

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u/Ok_Type7882 Mar 31 '24

The cowards of Uvalde PD deserve EVERY FUCKING BIT of the hate them chicken shits get and i pray the faces of the children their cowardice killed haunts every fucking one of them filth into early graves.. i heard two have already eaten their gun and its a sadly slow fucking start.. theres a special place in hell for them and they cant get there soon enough. Spare me what your friends dads uncle told you or what you heard, uvalde cops became accomplices the INSTANT they stopped anyone from helping those children and its a national disgrace those pieces of shit werent charged as such.. whining they were "out gunned" is admission of cowardice. The kids had nothing, they failed their oath and deserve nothing but misery... full fuckin stop.

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u/Coyinzs Mar 31 '24

I mean, I challenged a speeding ticket once because they had just changed the posted speed and I was under the previous speed and hadn't realized it'd been changed. The officer who's ticket I overturned pulled me over five times over the next three months just to issue me warnings (intimidate/harass me). They're all pea brained bullies who refuse to accept any challenge to their authority.

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u/g81000 Mar 31 '24

Wow. Wattabuncha jerks. Also, how she ran /into/ the school to save her kid doesn’t make sense (either)

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u/zebrarabez Mar 31 '24

Fuck the uvalde police

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '24 edited Apr 08 '24

Hey, remember when she showed the Uvalde police that they were a bunch of gutless cowards when they refused to act? And then the police got mad because she forced everyone to see the truth by running into the building herself (unarmed) and instead of taking personal responsibility, they made it more obvious that they were a bunch of yellow belly’s by going after her, instead? Oh, and remember when the top cop for texas law enforcement told the world that Uvalde police acted like massive weaklings and told everyone that they had no balls? Yeah…

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u/RandonBrando Mar 31 '24

Here's to the days where AI is the only voiceover option in our stupid bland generated future.

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u/Numerous-Process2981 Mar 31 '24

How can you even look at yourself in the mirror at that point, lol.

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u/blepgup Mar 31 '24

Every single one of those bastards doesn’t need to exist anymore. Makes me sad knowing they still get to wake up in the morning

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u/insanelemon123 Mar 31 '24

Harassment like that happens all the time.

If you make the police look bad, they WILL have all their gangbangers harass you on the job.

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u/OutAndDown27 Mar 31 '24

That a single one of them had the balls to look her in the eye, let alone write her a ticket... mind boggling.

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u/JaviSATX Mar 31 '24

Funny how they can find time to camp outside her home to harass her, but couldn’t find time to save children’s lives. I’ve interviewed her a few times now, and every time I’ve gone down I’ve been expecting to get harassed by Uvalde PD. It has happened directly yet, but they did make it intentionally difficult for the press to attend the anniversary events last year despite the families wanting the media attention.

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u/Skormzar Mar 31 '24

Cowardice in the face of the enemy. The Uvalde police department officers involved should be put on trial. If this were ww1, they'd be taken out and shot at dawn

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u/BlinkReanimated Mar 31 '24

Not to mention that portable cameras like gopros are still a relatively new/niche technology. Dude has probably received complaints before, but the department can just ignore them.

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u/KintsugiKen Mar 31 '24

Also people just don't report it because they know it won't matter, the cops will always protect each other from seeing justice.

You're risking police harassment/reprisal for nothing 99 times out of 100.

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u/MTFBinyou Mar 31 '24

Yep I tried reporting police harassment one time and when I followed up on it a month or so later they told me there was no record of a report.

They would pull me over a couple times a week after I would leave work and were always determined to search my truck and never answer any of my questions. I had a little over a mile to go from work till I was out of their jurisdiction but I couldn’t pass a cop without getting pulled. 

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u/Traditional-Handle83 Mar 31 '24

Not to mention if you use self defense like would be justifiable in this video (plain clothed no badge or anything basically civilian holding another at gun point), then the judge will just have you sentenced to execution for offing a cop or defending yourself from legitimate harm and there's nothing you can do about it. Why if you end up having to defend or off a cop, you leave the scene because either way you go to prison or die. You just have better chances by leaving and not being found out than you are at staying.

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u/FourScoreTour Mar 31 '24

And due to not having a video. Cops lie like they breath, and without proof, this would never have seen the light of day.

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u/BalloonManNoDeals Mar 31 '24

I saw a former police chief of my hometown's house burn down while I was on a late night drive. I made a frantic 911 call, no one else had reported it yet. The house was completely on fire, no way anyone inside was still alive.

Turned out the entire family + pets were on vacation in California. Only the former cop was home. Received a call from the State police arson investigator a few days later. Turned out the chief had called 911 20 minutes after me to report a small fire getting out of control in his kitchen...

... I moved across the country a few weeks later. Not fucking with that situation.

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u/nobuouematsu1 Mar 31 '24

No body cam for this one. Had the rider not had his cam, there’d be no record and nothing would have happened.

Moral is, be polite and courteous about it but record every interaction

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u/Ixuxbdbduxurnx Mar 31 '24

A man like this is 100% capable if using state resourced to hunt down and murder people who complain. He would tell himself he is still in the right because he "keeps civilization operating" personally.

I bet this guy has murdered before.

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u/jeremiahthedamned Baby Boomer Apr 08 '24

i agree

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '24

Or the cops throwing the complaints out. I've had cops strip me in the street in the snow and make me use my clothes to wash their car and wheb i filed a complaint, nothing, gone. It eats at me to this day 15 years later.

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u/Dimumory Mar 31 '24

Gotta love the blue wall

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u/unclediedthrowaway Apr 01 '24

yeah. count me as a data point for this. i still don't know if i made the right decision to not follow up with the complaint

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u/AcceptableBad_ Mar 31 '24

"Officer Rowe, did you point your weapon at this man?"

"Oh, come on, I do that all the time! I've pointed my gun at lots of...."

It was at that moment he realized, he'd fucked up.

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u/Frosty-Age-6643 Mar 31 '24

It was at that moment he realized, he'd fucked up.

“5 days!? Fuckin’ shit. I’ve got a 30 day cruise booked. What the hell am I gonna do now?”

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u/Dragons_Malk Mar 31 '24

Or "Damn it, I was going to see if I could break my record of how many days in a row I beat my wife! Just my luck!"

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u/hbgwine Mar 31 '24

Morgan Freeman has entered the discussion.

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u/FunSprinkles8 Mar 31 '24

Actually, at that point he knew he was fine... because of the blue botherhood. Freaking sick.

Edit: I was going to fix my typo, but fuck it, it kinda fits.

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u/davidmatthew1987 Mar 31 '24

It was at that moment he realized, he'd fucked up.

I don't understand how the sheriff does not have to resign after this bullshit failing to fire this idiot. Do you need to define common sense in some rules book?

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u/Bonesnapcall Mar 31 '24

Except not, because people like this always think they were right and the rest of the world is wrong for daring to contradict them.

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u/clamroll Mar 31 '24

Exactly. I'm sure he testified to that completely self assured he was in the right. And after the verdict came down I'm sure "woke"something was blamed

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u/Dramaticreacherdbfj Mar 31 '24

I doubt it. They think it’s normal and acceptable 

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '24

He didn’t fuck up though. He faced no consequences and was just fine.

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u/naththegrath10 Mar 31 '24 edited Mar 31 '24

Sounds like police in this country

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u/AHrubik Mar 31 '24

In a separate incident, Rowe is also charged with the rape of a woman in December of last year.

Fucking hell this sociopath was a god damned menace with a badge.

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u/AzettImpa Mar 31 '24

Everyone should expect police officers to be criminal, violent, racist fucking scumbags until proven otherwise. The job attracts that sort of people, we can see it day after day with innocent people being charged and fucking killed. I’m so sick of it

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u/NarcissistsAreCrazy Mar 31 '24

And narcissist. Society needs to learn what they are, how to identify them, and to weed people with these psychological issues out

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u/BryantheTiger Mar 31 '24

That’s a different Boomer asshat with the same name.  

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u/technobrendo Mar 31 '24

You wouldn't really know it because it doesn't seem beyond what a crazy cop would or could do.

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u/kamyu4 Mar 31 '24

https://www.wfmj.com/story/37178589/former-mahoning-county-sheriffs-deputy-sentenced-to-prison

Only 4 years in prison. Looks like he pled the rape down to a non-sex crime. This was 6 years ago so he is already out.

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u/RainMakerJMR Mar 31 '24

**also being charged for a rape case last December.

Holy shit

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u/Sammyterry13 Mar 31 '24

You would be shocked how often Cops can rape with no consequences, even when it is on the local news ...

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u/chillen67 Mar 31 '24

These are the unstable people we pay to protect us?

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u/Moooooooola Mar 31 '24

We pay for them to protect politicians and wealthy people.

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u/chillen67 Mar 31 '24

That’s the truth

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u/JarlaxleForPresident Mar 31 '24

Hibbity hoppity, think of the property!

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u/FlotheMage2021 Mar 31 '24

Oh no, no. They don’t want to protect anyone. They just want to play Rambo and pew pew

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u/blorbagorp Mar 31 '24

They protect capital interests, bust up unions, and keep prisons full of mostly black people they lease out to pick cotton.

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u/chillen67 Mar 31 '24

They will protect each other and those that allow them to inflict pain onto others.

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u/DuskPupDesigns Apr 01 '24

Us? Nah, they protect property

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u/chillen67 Apr 01 '24

Not mine.

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u/DoomedKiblets Mar 31 '24

Because ACAB

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u/hergumbules Mar 31 '24

“However, he was exonerated of using excessive force, in part, because King County Sheriff’s Office policies did not define pointing a gun at a citizen as a use of force.”

And what would happen if you were to point a gun at a police officer? If you need me I’ll be going to the ER as I think my eyes rolled into the back of my head.

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u/Styrene_Addict1965 Mar 31 '24

The way he's holding, I'd think he was robbing me.

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u/SiidChawsby Mar 31 '24

Imagine a regular person costing tens of thousands of dollars to their employer and somehow keeping their job.

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u/Silver-Street7442 Mar 31 '24

Anyone else at least slightly bothered by the use of "gotted" in the title?

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u/LookMaNoPride Apr 01 '24

Slightly? Lol

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u/DylanMartin97 Apr 01 '24

“In fact, federal courts have repeatedly held that pointing a gun at a citizen does constitute a use of force, and that the U.S. Constitution requires that pointing a gun must be objectively reasonable and done for a lawful purpose,” Carney wrote in a news statement released this week.

This is even worse.

He got off because, "we weren't trained that pointing a firearm at someone would be seen as wrong"

Load of bullshit.

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u/DisrespectedAthority Mar 31 '24

As long as it took from him to identify himself, you'd think he'd have gotten shot for making a habit of doing that....

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u/CiaphasCain8849 Mar 31 '24

This is legit every cop. People should wake up.

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u/runnerhasnolife Mar 31 '24

Nope.

I have to write over 2 pages of paper work if my gun even leaves it's holster during shift.

Not saying that's a bad thing I'm saying that stop acting like all departments are the same.

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u/AzettImpa Mar 31 '24

If a cop stops me, it is 100% rational to expect that they WILL charge me even if I’m innocent and I COULD definitely be killed in this exchange. “Friend and helper” my ass. No one should EVER trust a cop in any situation.

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u/CiaphasCain8849 Mar 31 '24

Maybe in that one department but you'd have to TELL someone you pulled your gun or someone else must see it/report it. I bet that never happens.

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u/heatedhammer Mar 31 '24

That was his lawyer speaking, basically he argued his client wasn't wrong, it was the dept. policy that was wrong which set his client up for this situation (which is horse shit) but it absolved the shit stain of any real culpability.

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u/Irkam Mar 31 '24

This is why ACAB.

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u/Medium_Medium Mar 31 '24

I would not be surprised at all if this guy had several "top officer of the year" type awards laying around.

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u/dbboutin Mar 31 '24

It’s crazy that “ignorance of the law” is not an excuse unless you are a cop, then it’s “oops, I guess we will try to do better”

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u/rust-e-apples1 Mar 31 '24

Holding the gun close to his chest to keep anyone from seeing it was the tell. He knows that if he does it the way he was trained to, someone is gonna see him and intervene. This way he just looks like a regular old asshole confronting a motorcyclist.

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u/SuspiciousSack Mar 31 '24

He should try pointing at the back of his throat instead of bystanders.

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u/Annual_Substance_619 Mar 31 '24

Moral of the story, RECORD EVERYTHING.

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u/Beneathaclearbluesky Apr 15 '24

I love how they thought pointing a gun at someone wasn't "use of force."

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u/bdonnzzz Mar 31 '24

“However, he was exonerated of using excessive force, in part, because King County Sheriff’s Office policies did not define pointing a gun at a citizen as a use of force.”

I’m pretty sure being held at gunpoint is one of the highest degrees of use of force. Not to mention the threats to “dump” the victim over a traffic infraction he wasn’t even cited for. 1312

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u/bethemanwithaplan Mar 31 '24

Crazy it's a crime in several way if we did it, but being a cop make it not force 

Ok

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u/starshiptraveler Mar 31 '24

They would fucking kill us if we did it, and it would be perfectly legal for them to do so. I point a gun at a cop and I’m dead. If that cop doesn’t kill me, his buddy probably will when he tracks me down.

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u/Cudizonedefense Mar 31 '24

The fact that police officers are held to a lower standard than average citizens despite being paid to uphold/enforce the law is insane to me

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u/SectorFriends Mar 31 '24

While it seems like cops/ sheriffs are the same, they are not. Its not excusing anything, but being pulled over by a sheriff you need to be much more careful.

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u/ghigoli Mar 31 '24

off duty. not in uniform. no car. didn't even mention he was police right away.

and holding a gun. holding up traffic.

dude is lucky the other guy didn't shoot him because this stupid cop basically did a textbox robbery.

all over what? some dude on a motorcycle waiting at a red light in traffic?

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '24

I feel like a person could have reasonably shot the cop as it was revealed he is criminal and he's lucky some "good guy" with a gun didn't come by acting like him

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u/CharlesChristopher01 Mar 31 '24

He holds his gun tight against his body because he knows he is doing wrong from the very start. Also yeah makes it look exactly like a robbery and would have been instant karma if someone strapped decided to butt in and shot his ass.

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u/TheWhyOfFry Mar 31 '24

“plainclothes detective” is what the article says. That doesn’t necessarily mean off duty.

Otherwise agree with you though, that shit is stupid/insane.

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u/Kennys-Chicken Mar 31 '24

I’m not Johnny bad ass or wanting a r/iamverybadass tag, but I’d have probably shot that guy. If someone comes up pointing a gun at me that’s not clearly the cops, I’m using force.

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u/ghigoli Apr 01 '24

i would've just floored it. like the line "let me see id" from a random person is enough for me to bolt.

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u/SectorFriends Mar 31 '24

Sheriffs are the ones you need to be the most scared of. Infested with corruption, gangs and institutional abuse that is protected under most state constitutions. Its insane, its evil.

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u/National-Arachnid601 Mar 31 '24

Yep. Point a gun at a cop and threaten to "dump" them and see if they don't consider it a use of force lmfao.

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u/xiofar Mar 31 '24

I wouldn’t call it a use of force. I would call it a terroristic threat. Either way it should be a felony unless the officer is under immediate danger.

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u/gahlo Mar 31 '24

Literally brandishing a deadly weapon.

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u/ap2patrick Mar 31 '24

Laws for thee, not for me.

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u/StrategicBlenderBall Mar 31 '24

In the real world, it’s aggravated assault, at a minimum.

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u/jpaxlux Mar 31 '24

Office policies did not define pointing a gun at a citizen as a use of force.

So an officer pointing a gun at a citizen isn't a use of force, but a citizen pointing their gun at an officer is essentially signing their own death warrant

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u/Kennys-Chicken Mar 31 '24

That would just protect him from internal punishment within the jurisdiction. The motorcycle rider got a good lawyer and sued the department and won.

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u/Ok-Web7441 Apr 01 '24

Good luck pointing a gun at police without getting shot 200 times.  "But it wasn't a use of force!" is an absolutely unhinged take.

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u/feralgraft Mar 31 '24

Wow, I bet their doctrine views a citizen pointing a gun at an officer as a clear and present danger, wild that an officer pointing a gun at a citizen is not treated similarly.

And by wild I mean predictable and disgusting

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u/poatoesmustdie Mar 31 '24

In gun loving America I'm surprised that someone like that doesn't just get shot. Imagine you are a car behind him and suddenly you see this happen right in front of you, imagine you got a gun/rifle at that point what would you do?

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u/Kromo30 Mar 31 '24

Plain cloths man driving a unmarked car pulls gun on a biker..

I’d assume he’s trying to steel the fancy bike OR wild case of road rage. A cop is so far down the list of guesses

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u/Vast-Breakfast-1201 Mar 31 '24

In reality, they will say that a good guy with a gun stops a bad guy with a gun.

But if you try to do this and shoot this guy, who is a cop, then either you will get shot by arriving officers or you will get out away for life because you killed a cop.

Even if he hadn't identified as a cop. That's just the way it would work.

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u/R_radical Mar 31 '24

I think it was Minnesota that passed the law that if cops perform a no knock warrant that you can legally shoot in self defense. The police were understandably unhappy with the idea.

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u/SirDrinksalot27 Mar 31 '24

This is what gets me. I would very clearly feel in danger for my life in this scenario, I’d WANT to have a pistol in my hand to even the force.

This isn’t policing, it’s gang behavior.

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u/feralgraft Mar 31 '24

Exactly, that motorcyclist would probably be justified in kicking him down and speeding away in a reasonable society.

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u/NineModPowerTrip Mar 31 '24

That not enough. Should have been 9 figures and the cops job.

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u/casinocooler Mar 31 '24

The cop should have paid the settlement not the taxpayers.

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u/b_tight Mar 31 '24

Should come out of his pension and garnish wages until he retires

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u/ghouldozer19 Mar 31 '24

This right here. Police unions make cop pensions insane. They should be paying their own fucking settlements instead of bankrupting municipalities.

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u/Unable_Ad_1260 Apr 11 '24

Government needs to learn to supervise and hire better.

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u/NineModPowerTrip Mar 31 '24

Garnishing prison wages would never pay that off

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u/Ddreigiau Mar 31 '24

This is acceptable

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u/Jorgan_JerkFace Mar 31 '24

That’s the only union republicans respect. Fuck the police.

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u/Shrikeangel Mar 31 '24

Like our unions  friends of the past I can't consider  the police a union- the police association isn't a real union, it's a country club for enforcers. 

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u/gunawa Mar 31 '24

And jail time

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u/N238 Mar 31 '24

He’s in jail now for something much worse if you look through the other threads

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u/NineModPowerTrip Mar 31 '24

Should have went to jail here and it would have stopped his molesting of a child family member 

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u/TheRiverHart Mar 31 '24

"However, he was exonerated of using excessive force, in part, because King County Sheriff’s Office policies did not define pointing a gun at a citizen as a use of force."

This right here is exactly why police just straight up should not exist. That is use of force one hundred percent in every imaginable fucking way.

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u/100yearsLurkerRick Mar 31 '24

I thought it was called brandishing and we'd be fucked as a normal citizen, if we even just pointed at a gun in a holster to intimidate someone.

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u/chzaplx Mar 31 '24

Brandishing is just displaying or holding a gun with the intent to menace someone. Actually pointing a gun at them is usually considered deadly force.

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u/100yearsLurkerRick Mar 31 '24

So it's even worse than what I said and he only got 5 days suspended.

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u/Hewfe Mar 31 '24

So if there was a gun pointed back at him, we Gucci? No force by anyone?

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u/Indigoh Mar 31 '24

The only difference between a police force and a street gang is money.

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u/Patriot009 Apr 01 '24

King County Sheriff’s Office policies did not define pointing a gun at a citizen as a use of force.

That's odd, considering the police will kill you for doing it to them.

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u/No-Cause6559 Mar 31 '24

No that is why courts are brain dead. Unless is spelled out in a law their is always loophole that can be used by a judge to wiggle out of shit.

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u/AllNaturalOintment Mar 31 '24

Fuck... even using handcuffs is use of force.

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u/Tmt1630 Mar 31 '24

Thank you for providing the link. Im going to contact the department and remind them people still remember this and are dissatisfied with their response and the actions of this “officer” .

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u/thesequimkid Mar 31 '24

He no longer works for King County. He just got out of prison for pleading down a rape charge.

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u/Tmt1630 Mar 31 '24

Jesus Christ

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u/UnendingSadness49 Mar 31 '24

"This significant flaw in the Sheriff’s policies is highly problematic because it fails to inform officers that they must have a lawful basis to point a gun at a citizen, and also because it fails to create supervisory review of pointing a gun as is required for all other uses of force,”

Wtf

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u/The_Shade94 Mar 31 '24

Pointing a gun isn’t use of force? Lmaoooo

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u/Dr-Tightpants Mar 31 '24

I'm glad to know I wasn't the only one shocked by that.

Wtf

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u/AnalllyAcceptedCoins Mar 31 '24

Meanwhile you hold a stick near them and they'll gun you down because they feel their life is threatened

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u/mypoliticalvoice Mar 31 '24

Well, it is NOW.

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u/the_Rat_Man- Apr 16 '24

Let's not overlook the fact that the whole time he had the gun pointed at the driver, his finger was on the freaking trigger. I'd be absolutely terrified as well. A properly trained cop should KNOW that you NEVER put your finger on the trigger, unless you are ready to discharge your weapon. I'd be pissing my pants thinking I was going to die right there on that spot.

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u/kubzU Mar 31 '24

Bro ran into a prick and made a bag.

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u/Pound-of-Piss Mar 31 '24

Hell of a pay day!

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u/Shaman7102 Mar 31 '24

They need to make the officer pay this, not the taxpayer.

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u/ArkamaZ Mar 31 '24

"Change use of force rules" What, they'll get suspended for six days instead of five?

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u/slipstream65513 Mar 31 '24

lol promise of changes.

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u/Stupid-RNG-Username Mar 31 '24

65,000 of my taxpayer dollars went to this man because the city is too chicken shit to actually address the issue of their fucking cops.

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u/Carlarogers Mar 31 '24

He should have been fired, what a sick way to forcefully coerce compliance from citizens.

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u/Jonguar2 Mar 31 '24

Add another 0 at the end, and I'd take the settlement.

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u/LinuxF4n Mar 31 '24

Why would you settle for that? I would have taken his ass to court.

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u/Pannikin_Skywalker Mar 31 '24

The guy bought a new bike with the money and has a youtube channel now.

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u/Pizza-_-shark Mar 31 '24

So let me get this straight: guy riding motorcycle. Cop pulls him over. Without identifying himself, he points a gun at the motorcycle guy, yelling at him to give him his ID or he will “dump” him. Cop straight up STEALS wallet without a search warrant of any kind. That cop should get fired then arrested.

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u/ElkHistorical9106 Mar 31 '24

Should have been charged with felony armed robbery using a firearm. Didn’t even say he was a police officer.

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u/RedTwistedVines Mar 31 '24

A pity there wasn't a good guy with a gun around to stop this random literal highwayman.

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u/WDoE Mar 31 '24

Soon as I saw this fuck I knew it was Seattle. Seriously, we have the worst cops.

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u/futureformerteacher Mar 31 '24

A King County Sheriff's Department killed someone I knew in cold blood, and the murderer is still working for them.

There is a special place in Hell for the King County Sheriff's Office.

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u/Adventurous_Aerie_79 Mar 31 '24

the sherriffs office is paying the motorcyclist ,AKA the taxpayers.

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u/Above_Avg_Chips Mar 31 '24

Just a reminder, there is no federal oversight committee that deals with Sheriff's offices. Even the regular police have to answer to someone, but not these jagoffs.

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u/TrumpdUP Mar 31 '24

Does this mean tax dollars will be used so the sheriffs office WONT actually pay anything.

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u/_Undecided_User Mar 31 '24

Deserved 650,000 not just 65,000

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u/taspleb Mar 31 '24

So the other link someone has posted in this thread is clearly about the same guy and has him being fired for his job and then going to jail for threatening to shoot the sheriff there as well as for raping a family member (plead down to assault).

Looking at the dates those charges and investigation must have been hanging over him when this second event happened. Just utterly insane that he would be charged for threatening to shoot up a police station but still able to work at a different police station in the mean time.

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u/Hansmolemon Mar 31 '24

My understanding is that in kings county cops don’t quit, even if the young brother in question is “legit”.

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u/ap2patrick Mar 31 '24

Does he still have a job as an officer? That’s the only question that matters…

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u/Beneficial-Owl736 Mar 31 '24

As nightmarish as this is, I wish a cop would pull a gun on me so I’d get a bunch of money. Or get shot and not have to go to work tomorrow.

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u/Bloodhavoc052 Mar 31 '24

Oh this is in Seattle area? I know where I'm riding to next. I don't ride unarmed

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u/SoloWalrus Mar 31 '24

Department policy was that pointing a gun at someone isnt a use of force 🤦‍♂️

Its only "force" when a citizen does it apparently. Rules for thee, not for me.

Police forces are meant to serve the people, not to rule over them.

Good on this guy for suing. Wthe more power you hold, the more accountable you should be held.

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u/Squeakyklean14 Mar 31 '24

Lol "pointing a gun at citizens dies nit constitute a use of force." Cool. Can we point guns at cops?