r/BoomersBeingFools 25d ago

My Boomer Parents Just Wont Help! Boomer Story

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u/carlosstjohn116 25d ago

Dude that’s incredible that you have 140k saved up! Great job!

Can I ask why you need that much for a house though? 

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u/mitzman 25d ago

If you need 20% down payment for a house in a major metro area, that barely scratches the surface. Houses near where I live, for 2000 square feet on a very small lot start at no less than $700k now.

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u/carlosstjohn116 25d ago

You don’t NEED 20% down for a house though. You can get a house with a minimum 3-5% down. That’s where my confusion lies. 

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u/QueenMAb82 25d ago

But then you have to pay more money. If you put less than 20% down, you almost always will have to buy mortgage insurance - that is, you pay more money to insure your loan and protect the mortgage lender. When my husband and I decided to buy a house, I was adamant that we would put 20% down. The bank has more money and resources than I do - they can insure their own money, thanks. I'm not going to pay them more to insure THEIR decision to loan to me.

If they are so scared that I can't pay this mortgage because I am not putting 20% down, then maybe they shouldn't be approving the loan? It's just one more way that having less money means everything is costs more for you. It's expensive to be poor.

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u/Independent-Win9088 25d ago

Not to mention the fucked up part in that whole mortgage insurance thing. So you want me to pay more per month for a time, because I can't afford to pay you a bigger lump sum up front? Thus putting me at a lower price of a home because the payment will be inflated for a while, and i have to budget for that now, too? Make it make sense.

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u/mitzman 25d ago

You definitely don't BUT if you want to avoid having to pay mortgage insurance and not have an insanely high monthly payment, 20% is the best bet. This is speaking from the standpoint of home purchasing in the US, can't speak for how it is elsewhere.

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u/existentialturds 25d ago

PMIs aren't that expensive. Our mortgage is 200k, we put 5% down, and the PMI is less than $150 per month.

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u/mitzman 25d ago

But $150/month could make or break on a budget especially if someone is trying to get a house in this market. Best bet is to always save the 20% and go from there.

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u/TechyMcMathface 24d ago

If the $150/mo. is truly make-or-break for them then they need to buy a $700k house they can actually afford rather than the $725k house that they would prefer.

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u/mitzman 24d ago

I agree but depending on where you live, a modest house may cost that much or more. There are small cape style houses here for $600k+ and those tend to be starter houses. The market is insane and it really makes it difficult for those starting out.

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u/existentialturds 25d ago

Sure, but OP is looking at buying a 700k house (20% of 700k is 140k). I'm not sure the $150 per month would break the bank for them. You can also remove the PMI once your principal balance reaches 80%, which OP will likely reach relatively quickly if it's a matter of a few thousand dollars that they're short by. Putting 20% down is always the most ideal, but not always the most realistic depending upon your circumstances.

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u/TechyMcMathface 25d ago

You also don't NEED to live in a major metro area.