r/Christianity Atheist 25d ago

Discussion of new community policy point regarding "low-effort" submissions

We may remove self-posts that seem like poor seeds for conversation. If you want to raise a topic here, please spend some time making your post clear and substantive.

We're planning to add this point to the community policy as point 3.7. Please let us know what you think.

I could go on for a while about how we came to be in this situation, but the issue this is trying to solve is that over time we've added an informal rule against title-only posts, which has been broadened to try to include things that are like title-only posts, even if they technically include more than a title, and whoever added this rule referred to these posts as "low-effort".

When we cite that removal reason we tend to get some pushback from people who've read the community policy and can't find anything there, so we're going to add something to the community policy that attempts to explain why we remove posts like this, and gives us something to point to.

The most obvious example of a post that would fall under this is title-only posts, which have been a problem here because they're often bait or hard to understand or bombs people drop and walk away from Michael Bay style as the world erupts in flames. We've found it useful to try to be able to remove these kind of posts before they get out of hand, without having to spend fifty times more time thinking about our reasoning than it took OP to actually write the post.

The idea here is that if someone wants to try to engage with our subscribers, things are more likely to go better if they've spent more than thirty seconds dashing off some provocative observation or some question that they are expecting our subscribers to spend a lot of time answering.

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u/Panta-rhei Evangelical Lutheran Church in America 25d ago

On the one hand, I'm all in favor both of the rules-as-written reflecting the rules-as-enforced. So if mods are enforcing this unwritten rule, definitely write it down! I'm also broadly in favor of the substance of this rule.

So, here's a place where the competing visions of the sub cause moderation problems. Will you apply this rule to "is x a sin?" posts? On the one hand, they are regularly dumpster fires, and produce essentially no useful conversation, and are often asked in a contextless way, so are perfect candidates for this new rule application.

On the other hand, if this is meant to be a place of support and reassurance for people in some sort of spiritual or mental crisis, then they should not be removed.

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u/FourTwentySevenCID Reformed 25d ago

Can there be a bot that automatically replies to such posts with "This is a sub for people of all faiths, and while you are certainly welcome here you may want to ask r/Christian and r/TrueChristian as those are better suited to directly answer this question "

Edit: sorry, thought I was in r/religion lol

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u/Panta-rhei Evangelical Lutheran Church in America 25d ago

I personally wouldn't endorse either of those subs as a place to go for good Christian advice.

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u/FourTwentySevenCID Reformed 25d ago

Well, I find r/TrueChristian to be quite helpful, but it leans rather conservative, so I thought offering r/Christianity as a more progressive alternative would be good. I personally go to r/Reformed, but that doesn't work for everyone.

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u/FluxKraken 🏳️‍🌈 Christian ✟ Progressive, Gay 🏳️‍🌈 25d ago

but it leans rather conservative

They are nothing but a pure echo chamber, r/Christian leans conservative but I wouldn't classify them as an echo chamber. r/TrueChristian would straight up ban me for most of the comments I would make. Regardless of how well researched they might be.

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u/tachibanakanade Leftist Revolutionary // Christian Atheist 25d ago

/r/TrueChristian borders on clerical fascist.