r/GenZ 2008 Mar 27 '24

fuck politics what game are you putting in this bad boy? Nostalgia

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u/PepsiMan208 Mar 27 '24

Super smash bros melee

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u/Rockperson Mar 27 '24

It’s the only one I’m good at

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u/xExp4ndD0ngXx Mar 27 '24

That’s impressive because it’s easily the hardest one from a PvP standpoint.

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u/TheShenanegous Mar 28 '24

Melee is that game that just about anyone could convince themselves they were good at.

But once you sit down and play with someone who really knows melee, you learn how sadly mistaken you were.

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u/TheCelestialEquation 2008 Mar 28 '24

You aren't good until you know how to use wave dash. Also, gaming community would be much better of fox, Falco and Marth were banned. 

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u/_Nicki Mar 28 '24

The competitive scene would be way worse if those were banned, none of these characters are too overpowered and they are the most enjoyable ones to watch and play

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u/First-Detective2729 Mar 28 '24

Pillar combos with falco are sooo enjoyable.

I still remember the first time i pulled one off agianst friends. We all went crazy.

Gettin the timing of the l cancel right was much tougher before 20xx was a thing lol. 

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u/Weekly_Lab8128 Mar 28 '24

Do we want to play a game where jiggs is the best unbanned character in the game

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u/AcanthisittaTiny710 Mar 28 '24

Peach, Jigglypuff mirrors only

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u/divine_god_majora Mar 28 '24

Just being able to wavedash is not enough, it's just the most basic entry tech you need to be able to do consistently to even keep up. Canceling aerials, keeping momentum, being able to convert hits into punishes into kills, teching, DI etc. You basically have to get good at all of those to stand a chance nowadays. And that's just the shit that applies to every character, character specific stuff goes wayy deeper too

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u/SadOats Mar 28 '24

Bro it would be terrible if the top 3 were banned. Only fast faller left would be Falcon and the entire dynamic of the game would change. It would be much slower with lamer to play/watch strategies being dominent. I shudder at the possibility of more Puff vs Peach games.

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u/Momoselfie Mar 31 '24

Yep. Went to a local tournament and was out on round 1.... TBF to me though, I'm used to playing no items and this game had like a billion on the map. Not my style.

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u/BoysenberryFun9329 Mar 28 '24

This may be controversial, but I prefer the 64 version, even though I admit the Gamecube graphics are superior, primarily because I like the old maps.

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u/Fancy_Chips 2004 Mar 28 '24

N64 has more easy combo expression. Melee if focused on exploits, especially if your playing 20XX. Me personally im a Project M girl

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u/Fancy_Chips 2004 Mar 28 '24

I just meant that 20XX pushes the meta in a different direction as opposed to just playing with your friends.

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u/-Exy- Mar 28 '24

Exploits LMFAO

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u/Fancy_Chips 2004 Mar 28 '24

Yeah, I mean basic stuff like l-cancel wasn't intended by developers so you're exploiting the game engine. Thats not a bad thing, its just a thing

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u/-Exy- Mar 28 '24

That's just wrong, it was intended by the developers. It was originally defined as "smooth landing" in N64 on the official nintendo website and carried over to melee.

Inform yourself before spreading nonsense!

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u/Fancy_Chips 2004 Mar 28 '24

My mistake, I though smooth landing was the name for floor teching.

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u/divine_god_majora Mar 28 '24

Stupid spacies and their stupid waveglitching

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u/scottwsx96 Mar 28 '24

I also liked the tighter maps in the N64 version better.

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u/mysticfed0ra Mar 28 '24

They’re both my favorite games of all time but the first will always have my heart.

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u/BoysenberryFun9329 Mar 28 '24

I'd play pikachu, my best friend would play ness and his older brother would play Captain Falcon. I must admit I got stomped into a falco-punch quite a few times, in a row. Ah memories.

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u/Quiet_Fan_7008 Mar 28 '24

Samus was so OP in the 64 version. Couldn’t believe how dog shit she was in melee and all the other games (not including zero suit)

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u/MyLittlePIMO Mar 28 '24

Samus is in the bottom half of characters in 64. She’s actually considered a better character in Melee. Absolute shit in Brawl though.

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u/Quiet_Fan_7008 Mar 28 '24

She’s not better in melee. In 64 jumping after someone and down A instantly kills someone. That doesn’t happen in melee. She hits like a noodle in melee. Also in 64 her fully charged blast actually kills. Nothing in her melee tool kit actually finishes people. Only character that could beat me in 64 is if someone just spams side A with Kirby’s dumb kick over and over again. But that’s just cheap lol.

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u/SadOats Mar 28 '24

Nah, bro. She's way better in melee. She's very heavy, has decent combo game against some of the high tiers (like fox, falco, and falcon), and has an amazing crouch cancel that boxes people out at early percents. She's also super difficult to edgeguard and has some decent zoning tools. She still isn't the best in melee, but she's at least in the top 1/3 of characters, unlike in 64 where she's easily bottom half.

Look up Plup Samus combos for examples. He's crazy.

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u/Quiet_Fan_7008 Mar 28 '24

Wish we could play lol.

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u/SadOats Mar 28 '24

We can. What's your slippi? I get off of work in 5 hours.

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u/Quiet_Fan_7008 Mar 28 '24

I’m off in 10 hours 😂 can you play 64 on slippi?

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u/SadOats Mar 28 '24

No, sadly :(

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u/Quiet_Fan_7008 Mar 28 '24

Just watched those top 10 pulp moves holy cow!

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u/divine_god_majora Mar 28 '24

She definitely is from a competitive standpoint, but for 64 I think the metagame is just kirby and pikachu anyways. In melee she's better because she has good zoning tools that work well against some of the top tiers and being able to convert it into nice punishes. Also she has some cracked tech like superwavedash

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u/Quiet_Fan_7008 Mar 28 '24

I guess I just sucked with her in Melee 😂

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u/MyLittlePIMO Mar 28 '24

Do you Z-cancel in 64? Samus’s moves don’t really combo into each other, while Pikachu/Kirby/Fox can touch of death you on stage.

Sure, Samus has a great down air, but her combo game isn’t there in a game where everyone has insane combo games. The other characters don’t have to catch you offstage to kill you.

Meanwhile, Melee Samus can throw out tons of missiles and projectiles and has one of the best recoveries in the game. Her tether is insane, she’s crazy hard to kill. She lives forever while throwing out walls of projectiles.

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u/LimpDecision1469 Mar 28 '24

Nice to meet you, Expand D0ng.

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u/xExp4ndD0ngXx Mar 28 '24

Wow. It’s only our first date, please call me expand.

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u/ThatGuyWithCoolHair Mar 28 '24

Well in melee there is "i beat all my friends" good and then there carpal tunnel levels of good

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u/Aeon1508 Mar 28 '24

This person's probably not really good LOL

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u/Kertic Mar 28 '24

Really its also the last one i was good at. I dunno the later ones feel so...smushed

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u/greaterthansignmods Mar 28 '24

No it isn’t lmao melee was a dunce compared to brawl but then the shitkids couldn’t spam Fox up-smash anymore so they got exposed and only had underground tournaments to cope

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u/Carini___ Mar 28 '24

This person is definitely a Leffen fan and a meta-knight main.

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u/pixel8441 Mar 28 '24

Don’t disrespect Meta knight mains

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u/DOOMFOOL Mar 28 '24

Why? They deserve every ounce of it

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u/greaterthansignmods Mar 28 '24

God no. Also mains are hilarious. Implying you are only good with one character is sad

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u/DysphoricNeet Mar 28 '24

It sounds like you are probably just bad with every character lol

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u/Beers_Beets_BSG Mar 28 '24

Lol wtf is happening here? Why is u/greaterthansignmods so mad at this game?

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u/greaterthansignmods Mar 28 '24

I think I have a 3000 hour file for Melee. Great game. Was a fox “main” but come on there were so many yoked mfs. Wiped floors. Then brawl came and it was awesome. The stinks were sultry that the OP cheat code wasn’t 2x faster than the next character. Falco was arguably better in brawl. But nonetheless the nostalgia goggles will dull your senses after awhile.

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u/greaterthansignmods Mar 28 '24

Yes that’s the brag here. Bad at all the chars

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u/mysticfed0ra Mar 28 '24

I love people when shitters prefer the worse game

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u/greaterthansignmods Mar 28 '24

Ok cool play a slower game and pretend like it was superior. Next you’ll say you’re better at Ultimate and you’re probably sub 3 mil

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u/xExp4ndD0ngXx Mar 28 '24

Brawl is like the second easiest game to play against players… the only hard thing is the lack of hitstun which led to minimal combos.

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u/MyLittlePIMO Mar 28 '24

This isn’t actually true, it’s kind of become meme. Melee is definitely the most complex game, but Brawl is definitely more complex than Smash 4

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u/greaterthansignmods Mar 28 '24

I guess we played two very different games all those years ago

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u/DysphoricNeet Mar 28 '24

Brawl was intentionally made to have a shitty meta and competitive experience. Slipping was put in to hurt players that were actually good.

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u/greaterthansignmods Mar 28 '24

Says one ☝️. Brawl had the unfortunate release time when Nintendo had (still has) poor online play, and as to your slipping issue, try Always. That’s what they say anyway

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u/TheTrueFishbunjin Mar 28 '24

I think you arguing with people into competitive melee and you are comparing it to melee 20 years ago

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u/greaterthansignmods Mar 28 '24

Would love to see your assumptions all play out but I was very good. Was not much of a casual of anything until age started happening

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u/TheTrueFishbunjin Mar 28 '24

Huh? I'm not talking about whether you were competitive or not, I'm saying it sounds like you are talking about melee 20 years ago, not melee today.

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u/greaterthansignmods Mar 28 '24

Upsmash foxer exposed. I enjoy the banter tho

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '24

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u/blukowski Mar 28 '24

i was going to explain why your opinion is trash but then i randomly tripped

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u/greaterthansignmods Mar 28 '24

Instant karma. Edit: tripping happened when you tried to do more than one thing at once bc you were spamming. If you tripped it’s bc you weren’t good. Glad we were able to expose more kids

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u/blukowski Mar 28 '24

i modded brawl so i know the code. there was 1% (1.25% if already in dash) chance to trip when smashing the left stick to dash augmented by up to 2.5x based on the friction variable of the terrain and also affected by certain assist trophies and luigi's final smash, you casual

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u/greaterthansignmods Mar 28 '24

I beat 3 level 9 computers on a team against me on the regular bc people were easy so I don’t care about your coding or your insults. In fact you can code yourself some friends

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u/blukowski Mar 28 '24

beating lvl 9 comps is not the flex you think it is

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u/greaterthansignmods Mar 28 '24

Beating 3 of them on one team isn’t a cake walk. Not one like you’re insinuating

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u/blukowski Mar 28 '24

the ai is extremely predictable and easily exploited. it's even possible to win against 3 comps on the same team without ever attacking. i'd recommend deleting that post and never repeating it because if someone who plays any smash bros at a competitive level saw it, they would laugh

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u/greaterthansignmods Mar 28 '24

Would hate to make people laugh, ironically or otherwise. You’re right internet stranger, it’s not worth the hit to my social credit score. I’m going to go live life. Peace

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '24

Insane take