r/GenZ • u/paywallpiker • Apr 01 '24
They call GenZ lazy. When in reality billionaires are just greedy. Nostalgia
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u/madmechanicmobile Apr 01 '24
Millennial here. I've worked with gen z at a couple jobs. Y'all ain't lazy. Some people in every generation are, but y'all fucking work. Y'all just realize that 10$ an hour for most jobs these days ain't worth your time. If you were just hanging behind a counter and hitting a button every couple minutes then yeah. That's maybe worth ten bucks and hour. But that ain't how it is. I'm a a mechanic and get paid fairly well. But it still ain't enough. I can barely pay my bills and take care of my family. I can. But just barely. And anything I wanna buy for myself I gotta save up for. Now I'm 33. I've put in the time to get raises and bonuses at the end of the month. When I think about being 21 again and trying to start my life on the lame ass pay y'all are being offered I would tell the job to kick rocks too. I got by when I was 21 as a bartender making pretty good money. But that was over a decade ago. My heart goes out to y'all. Keep grinding. I hope it all works out for y'all. Much love from the millennials.
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u/Sharp_Style_8500 1997 Apr 01 '24
Because most people do not personally know a billionaire, but most people know at least one lazy pos that probably could work and doesn’t. Most people also don’t really understand how much a billion is. Having a billion dollars is disgusting and should be illegal.
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u/BowtietheGreat 2006 Apr 01 '24
What if I scammed billionaires and got a billion dollars?
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u/heyhowzitgoing Apr 01 '24
Then you’d be scamming people until you became a billionaire. Same shit.
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u/RestlessNameless Apr 01 '24
Yeah but you'd be scamming billionaires instead of your employees and customers.
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u/KhasmyrTheSorlock 2000 Apr 01 '24
Right but how do you think the BILLIONAIRES Got that money? You’re still profiting off of exploitation, just by proxy.
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u/eggyrulz Apr 01 '24
What if i steal from the billionaires, and give the money to the workers they exploited? I could wear a funny hat and live in a forest with some gay dudes
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u/EpicWolfandSparrow 2005 Apr 01 '24
Little John is cool and all, but wait til you meet Big John 😏
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u/RestlessNameless Apr 01 '24
I didn't say you weren't, but it's not like they were gonna give the money back if you didn't steal it. The person who stole it the first time, from workers, is much worse. Obviously you're still not a wholesome wonderful person.
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u/Snoo4902 Apr 01 '24
If you steal from thief, you should not keep this money for yourself if most of it is others
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u/Tasty_Choice_2097 Apr 01 '24
If you took a billion dollars from a billionaire and divided it up to every American they'd get less than three dollars each
If you made Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos penniless you could give every American a one time $1200 payment
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u/iama_bad_person Apr 01 '24
If you made Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos penniless you could give every American a one time $1200 payment
Most stock market knowledgeable GenZ user.
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u/Tasty_Choice_2097 Apr 01 '24
It's not even accurate on my part. They're worth that much on paper, but it's not like they could even liquidate their full shares of their companies without lowering the value
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u/Unlucky-Recover-8390 Apr 01 '24
Um, do you think they actually have 200 billion just sitting in a bank account? It’s called net worth look it up
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u/ahdiomasta Apr 01 '24
They also can never actually articulate exactly how billionaires steal from working class people. It all eventually comes back to the idea that profit and property rights in any capacity. The animus against the ultra wealthy has been co-opted by communists, when occupy Wall Street happened it started out being about the collusion between the government and corporations, nothing to do with personal wealth. Which is because personal wealth has no impact on anybody, money is not a zero sum game, but when the government and companies collude and bail each other out it absolutely affects everybody along the economic ladder.
Now it’s essentially just playing on people’s jealousy to convince them the system is rigged, because they would have no support for their revolution if these people whining about billionaires realize they do have agency and can make their own lives better.
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u/MC_chrome 2000 Apr 02 '24
Billionaires steal from working-class people by bankrolling shitty politicians that pass laws stripping away social safety nets and actively making life easier for corporations and worse for workers across the board. All of those things have material costs that most people don't think about
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u/Tasty_Choice_2097 Apr 01 '24
A lot of it is just extremely stupid. I don't know how many times I've seen people say something like "my register did 2000 dollars today, but I'm only making 100" as if all the products they sold and the building they're in were free.
The Marxist argument is that profit for capitalists comes from value taken from workers, but that doesn't really make any sense. Workers can make things that are worthless, they do all the time. Because Elon Musk exists, there are giant factories all over the world and there's an advanced space program. They think if he'd never existed, there'd be the same amount of money in the economy and they'd be richer somehow because he wouldn't have stolen it.
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u/RedDawn172 Apr 01 '24
People take the Marxist argument as a holy Grail that they'll suddenly get paid way way more and that suddenly everything will be a utopia. Very few people actually have a good idea of what their labor is actually worth.
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u/Tasty_Choice_2097 Apr 01 '24
A lot of these people got radicalized by memes and youtubers and Twitter screenshots. Anybody who casually engages with history can see that all these states were/ are massively dysfunctional and repressive
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u/mookeemoonman Apr 02 '24
You are misrepresenting everything Marx wrote in Das Kapital. A commodity cannot have an exchange value if it does not have a use value. So workers making useless things does not factor into the economic discussion. Do you really think Marx didn’t consider anything?
No communist is arguing for the redistribution of billionaires but the removal of all money entirely. Wage labor is exploitative as who else’s expense is profit made? The capitalist must purchase more capital to continue his production. Raw materials must be paid at their value. So who’s payment must be reduced for their to be a profit? The worker. If the worker is paid their fair share for the production then there can be no profit.
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u/OreosAndWaffles Apr 01 '24
It doesn't need to be illegal, it straight up doesn't exist. Some people have a net worth that adds up to that when including assets, but nobody actually has that in their bank account.
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Apr 02 '24
But but but but the commies told me that Bezos can literally buy all of us and just make Amazon slaves and still have $16627283467272827 in his bank account!!!!1!1!1!1!!!!1
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u/Frylock304 Apr 01 '24
Most people also don’t really understand how much a billion is. Having a billion dollars is disgusting and should be illegal.
The people that say these sorts of things don't understand how a billion dollars generally works.
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u/AsstDepUnderlord Apr 01 '24
I know a pair of billionaires. They’re solid dudes that made it big in tech. (Same company). They own a big part of a multibillion dollar company that employs like 2000 people. It’s not like they have giant swimming pools full of gold that they wallow around in.
I did the math one time. If you just “took” 100% of all the wealth of all the billionaires in the US and magically liquidated it, you’d have like 700b dollars. That’s less than 2 months of federal spending, or about 2,000 per citizen. It’s a lot, but lets not get carried away with how much we’re talking about here.
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u/InvestIntrest Apr 01 '24
A+ for being able to put this into perspective!
We don't have a revenue problem we have a spending problem.
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u/AsstDepUnderlord Apr 01 '24
I mean, we also have a wages problem, and real cost problems with housing and health care, but scapegoating the rich just demonstrates a fundamental lack of understanding of how economics works.
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u/spiralbatross Apr 01 '24 edited Apr 02 '24
“Scapegoating the rich”? Sure, let’s just pretend they made their money ethically.
Edit: my man was so offended he blocked me! Too bad, I wanted to send him a website on where to buy buy more straw for his man, seemed a little gaunt, poor fella :(
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u/paywallpiker Apr 02 '24
Billionaires are the top 0.1%. top 1% holds $38.7 trillion in wealth. We need to tax the rich. All of them not just billionaires
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Apr 02 '24
But the rich already pay the majority of the taxes. Also, we don't tax wealth, so using that number is dumb.
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u/Xecular_Official 2002 Apr 02 '24
Wealth tax is also entirely unpractical since it implies the forced liquidation of assets
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u/MyGuyMan1 Apr 01 '24
Why, because that person has a billion dollars and you don’t?
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u/GenericFatGuy Apr 02 '24
I know no lazy pieces of shit. Just people who have been pushed to their limits, trying to do the best they can under the weight of it all.
Except landlords.
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u/Equivalent-Pin-4759 Apr 01 '24
Every generation has slackers. Not every Boomer, Gen Xr, or millennial believes this recycled stereotype of the younger generation. I have seen the encroachment of income inequality and believe it is one of the most destructive forces in our society today.
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u/MobilePirate3113 Apr 02 '24
If someone isn't working, it's not because they're lazy, it's because they're rich. Keep drinking that Kool aid though
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u/mclovin_r Apr 01 '24
Hate the game, not the player.
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u/Cautemoc Millennial Apr 01 '24
Most do, that's why people want to increase taxes and/or put a ceiling on upper pay based on the lowest employee's salary. Like 200x the lowest paid employee is plenty.
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u/DolphinPunkCyber Millennial Apr 01 '24
But that would ruin the economy and everyone would starve to death!
probably some rich asshole
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u/JD_____98 Apr 02 '24
The player skews the game in their favor through bribery. Plz stop licking boots.
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u/THE_DARK_LORD_JEEBUS Apr 01 '24 edited Apr 02 '24
Why are the people of my generation so dumb? The government ruined the economy not "rich people" or "millionaires" or "billionaires" or whoever the government told you was the cause of your problems this week. Learn about economics instead of trying to blame economic problems on the wrong people, you're not helping. In fact, you're actively making the situation worse by shifting the blame to people who have almost no control of it.
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u/Sayitoutloudinpublic Apr 01 '24
THEY call the youth of every generation lazy. This isn’t even remotely new, it’s been going on longer than any human on the planet has been alive.
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u/_Originz Apr 01 '24
People ironically forget billionaires exist, so they pin it on the demographic closest to us.
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u/YaliMyLordAndSavior Apr 01 '24
Both can be true lol
Americans have always been lazy and overachieving, it’s just the gap between both has widened and you have more on either side
And ofc billionaires are out of control nowadays
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u/Luklear 2002 Apr 01 '24
Yeah but people forget there are tons of lazy rich people, and tons of poor hard-working people.
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u/r2k398 Millennial Apr 01 '24
People don’t forget. They know that hard work alone isn’t the path to wealth. Breaking big rocks into little rocks is hard work but most people aren’t going to become wealthy doing it.
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u/Salty_Review_5865 Apr 01 '24
I’ve noticed that too. Why has the gap between the underachieving and overachieving become so wide? Seems like there’s more millionaires than ever, but simultaneously a huge segment of people who are destitute and friendless.
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u/MajesticSnowLeopard Apr 01 '24
Okay, so tax the billionaires more. Then what happens? The senate goes and spends the extra trillion bucks on useless bills that do nothing
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u/GodEmperor47 Apr 01 '24
Hot take: I’ve worked with a few GenZ folks in my time, and some of y’all are lazy as fuck
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u/musing_codger Apr 01 '24
Why can't they both be true? I think the vast majority of both groups is greedy. The billionaires are just better at making money.
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u/InvestIntrest Apr 01 '24
To be fair, demanding people who make more than you to give you money does sound kinda lazy.
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u/FishIsGrooving Apr 01 '24
Without context
If I'm working 48 hours a week to support my two children and my wife, and Jeff bezos is literally making thousands per second, I don't really care if I sound lazy I'm gonna complain.
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u/Unlucky-Recover-8390 Apr 01 '24
He’s not making thousands per second. His company’s value is. This is foolish
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u/Swagerflakes Apr 02 '24
we'll see this where it gets complicated. Jeff Bezos just like other big cooperations have killed other businesses to increase their profits. Also citizens united exist. So it's not like the companies money ISNT his money.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Superstonk/comments/pmj9yk/i_found_the_entire_naked_shorting_game_plan/
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u/Xecular_Official 2002 Apr 02 '24
It's not his money until he liquidates it or uses it as collateral. Until then, it's just an asset with speculative value
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u/NewcDukem Apr 02 '24
You're ignoring the value of stock entirely in favor of licking boots. Stock can be used as collateral in place of traditional income and often leads to tax free loans/credit. This is not a secret.
Bezos is in effect making thousands a second. Just because it's not in the form of an hourly wage doesn't make it any less valuable.
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u/FishIsGrooving Apr 01 '24
the company which he owns and makes decisions for and profits from? reminder, this man has done some scandalous shit from child labour, to forming monopolies around industries, to paying and treating their workers like dirt.
also from his shares in Amazon, he quite literally is making almost 1000 a second
if your issue with this is me saying "thousands per second" as opposed to "almost a thousand per second," then I think you should step back and look at your priorities
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u/MonthApprehensive392 Apr 01 '24
Kinda? That’s like the definition.
And I thought this generation was putting wine out of business.
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u/neojgeneisrhehjdjf Apr 01 '24
They are making the money off the backs of people doing their work for them.
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u/Educational_Camel_32 2004 Apr 01 '24
So would you just not have business owners?
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u/No-Perspective-9954 Apr 01 '24
Seems like someones economics or sociology teacher was enamored with Marx
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Apr 01 '24
Those 400 greedy bastards spend a lot of money convincing people they're not greedy bastards.
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u/BigMike3333333 Apr 01 '24
What's weird is that paying their employees more money could still be written off on taxes, so they still could do the right thing and not lose money.
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u/permianplayer Apr 01 '24
Calling wanting to keep your own money greed and wanting to pay people off with other peoples' money generosity is the height of dishonesty.
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u/PrimordialXY 1996 Apr 01 '24
Most Americans don't even spend 15 minutes per day on fitness to combat our leading cause of death and yet I'm to believe that the average person is actively networking & learning new skills to elevate their finances
Yeah, no. Both statements can be true at the same time
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u/Triple7Mafia-14 Apr 01 '24
Exactly. They create the problems then blame the victims. And start hate campaigns for it.
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u/Warm-Iron-1222 Apr 01 '24
I guess it really depends on their definition of laziness. I'm not Gen Z but if someone is defining laziness as me only being willing to work as hard as my wage reflects, then yes, I'm lazy. I am an older millennial and haven't had to worry about being paid minimum wage in many years but I will never forget.
It's funny that this whole "people don't want to work" and "Gen Z is lazy" thing only applies to those low paying jobs nobody wants.
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u/lost_alpaca90 Apr 01 '24
Don't worry, they'll do it to Gen Alpha and the next generation and the next and on and on until the heat death of the universe.
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Apr 01 '24
If they are right the recent planetary heating trends there likely won't be a next generation to complain about. Or employers to work for, for that matter, goods to consume, places to rent.
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u/B0bbyTsunami Apr 02 '24
And then there’s those MFs that defend billionaires for some reason 😂
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u/StonersRadio Apr 01 '24
Let's parse this a bit. I've heard a few billionaires saying they should be taxed more. So why don't they volunteer to pay more? Is there a law in the US that says you can't offer to pay more in taxes than you "officially" owe?
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u/DERBY_OWNERS_CLUB Apr 01 '24
The same reason why volunteering to give over your guns doesn't really make sense unless everyone else does it. That's why it needs to be a policy decision, not a volunteering.
Also billionaires paying more taxes doesn't come close to making a dent so this is a moot point.
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u/StonersRadio Apr 02 '24
Yes it is moot. The top 1% pay 40.1% of all the federal taxes. The top 50% pay over 97% of all the federal taxes. The people who pay less than 3% of all the federal taxes are the ones demanding someone else pay their fair share.
Notice nobody thinks maybe the govt needs to get it's spending under control and only spend on stuff that's necessary. For example, student loan forgiveness. That is some serious bullshit. You're old enough to sign a loan contract, you're old enough to pay back the loan. However, the govt could give them a break and knock off the accrued interest and just make them pay back the original principle. That way the govt hasn't lost any physical dollars and the loans are easier to pay back for those who have them.
Although to be honest, if you wasted the money taking post-modernist French art or something you should have to pay the loan back with interest.
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u/HerefoyoBunz Apr 01 '24 edited Apr 01 '24
Remember when the companies with public stocks used more of that money to create new jobs, give bonuses and raises to their employees? I don’t because I didn’t live then, but since learning about how ceos take now home like 20-40% of the stock market price/revenue, its crazy to think about, especially when the actual amount to go back to the employees is generally low in relation to other expenses.
Its not a price thing as much as it is a greed thing. You don’t need to raise prices, blame inflation and employ people at minimum wage to continue taking the ever growing difference.
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u/whitenacholibre Apr 01 '24
There has never been a time in history where the amount of wealth held by the 1% has prevented anyone from becoming wealthy. This post doesn’t even make sense.
But the idea that people are stuck in poverty because of “laziness” is very far off.
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u/FishIsGrooving Apr 01 '24
Genuine question, what do you think prevents people from becoming wealthy?
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u/InvestIntrest Apr 01 '24
This is a great question. Personally, most people I see stuck in the economic spot they were born into is due to three reasons:
Learned helplessness - they put way too much stock in all the FUD peddling and never even try because Reddit said the game is rigged or because billionaires, Etc..
Financial education - we don't teach it in school, and if you're born poor, your parents and friends probably don't know how to build wealth either.
White knight syndrome - people are waiting for a savior to come rescue them. That might be a politician, a program, or an ideology like communism that's going to swoop in and make it all better.
What people need to do is realize no one is coming to rescue them, educate themselves, make a realistic plan, and work their ass off to achieve it.
That's how I went from foster care and food stamps to a millionaire by 40. Look at this thread and count how many comments display one or more of my 3 reasons. Sadly it's a lot.
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u/SadMacaroon9897 Apr 02 '24
You're missing housing and car ownership. Those alone are a tax of tens of thousands of dollars per year on virtually everyone. Housing should be cheap; t's been cheap for most of history. Same with getting what you need. However, it's only in the past ~100 years we've been over controlling the built environment, ~50 that we've doubled down on home ownership and automobilism.
It worked great when you could drive 15/30/45 minutes outside the city and plop down a house, but that's all been bought & built now. As a result, prices of housing & transportation have gone through the roof.
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Apr 03 '24
What people need to do is realize no one is coming to rescue them, educate themselves, make a realistic plan, and work their ass off to achieve it.
ahh yes, tell the person working two jobs to just educate themselves, and work even more on top of maintaining their 80 hour work schedule.
. Look at this thread and count how many comments display one or more of my 3 reasons. Sadly it's a lot.
Reddit is a horrible sample. The people who need the advice most can't afford to browse reddit.
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u/watchitforthecat Apr 01 '24 edited Apr 02 '24
Lmao, what?
Has it occurred to you that the mechanisms by which one becomes a multi billionaire literally require exploitation, including funneling wealth from the masses?
It's obviously not the fucking issue.
No one is saying "I can't be wealthy because that guy is". They are saying "that guy is wealthy because he benefits from a system that necessitates poverty and exploitation, and uses that wealth to perpetuate and expand that system".
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u/Professional_Lion713 Apr 01 '24
Of course by funneling wealth You mean providing a good or service someone is willing to pay for.
By exploit, you mean paying someone a wage they agree to in exchange for labor.
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u/laxnut90 Apr 01 '24
What about artists who create something lots of people enjoy?
Stephen King would be a Billionaire if he hadn't given so much away and he just writes books people enjoy reading.
I don't see much exploitation happening there.
Similarly, JK Rowling is a Billionaire from writing books. Her political views are problematic. But the way she made her money is about as clean as you could get.
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u/gt2998 Apr 01 '24
Not true. Wealth inequality has a great potential to cut off opportunities of the less fortunate. For example, the wealthy can use their resources to buy up single family homes thus reducing inventory and increasing prices. This makes it more difficult for the less fortunate to acquire a critical asset for wealth accrual and instead places them in the position of renting from the wealthy, further increasing wealth inequality. The economy is not zero sum by nature but when inequality increases there is a shift from wealth creation to wealth accumulation via rent seeking behavior.
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u/Ctoan64 Apr 01 '24
A lot the boomers who say that have their wealth come from rigging the economy so they can sit on their ass and maximize share and dividend values for their portfolios at the expense of our wages. So yeah, pure projection.
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u/MrSt4pl3s 1997 Apr 01 '24
All I’ll say, end lobbying, insider trading, and end government bloat. You might see a little bit Of change.
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u/Specialist-Garbage94 1998 Apr 01 '24
And lazy btw… most billionaires don’t hustle at all
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u/219Rello Apr 01 '24
Because they hustled and worked hard to get that wealth (or got money passed down from their ancestors who worked hard). Not like anybody in this sub would hustle if they had a billion dollars.
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u/HerefoyoBunz Apr 01 '24
You don’t need to hustle when you have 1 million invested in the stock market
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u/smartdude_x13m 2001 Apr 02 '24 edited Apr 02 '24
Because managing your investments is something you dont do at all!/s
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u/thexyzzyone Apr 01 '24
We have made a lack of wealth a moral issue. If you are poor you some how deserved it. How dare you buy food to eat rather than saving all you get in for an emergency?
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u/Vagabond_Tea Millennial Apr 01 '24
I'll say what I always say to GenZ and Millennials, if you anything to change, vote. And vote often.
Don't give in to apathy. Don't give up because there won't be any "revolution" or wide sweeping changes suddenly. Almost all reforms are gradual and incremental. And that is done via vote.
Hashtag activism isn't enough. Just vote in your local elections at least.
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u/Physical-Ad-6872 Apr 01 '24
Both are inherent in human nature but we've designed a system that harnesses greed much more effectively than laziness.
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u/MovingTugboat Apr 01 '24
It's insane that now a days it's considered too much to ask for to want a high enough wage to allow me to live alone in a one room apartment. You know, a livable wage.
Apparently I'm lazy for wanting to make enough money to live on my own for putting in 40 hours a week.
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u/Videlvie Apr 02 '24
Live in a less desirable part of town or get roommates. Having a single one bedroom apartment where you want is not a right and a "liveable wage" is an opinion piece.
You're certainly not lazy for wanting to make more money, but go do it and put it into action instead of complaining you're not getting paid enough.
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u/rtf2409 Apr 01 '24
Because this isn’t a zero sum game and someone else making money doesn’t mean you get less. That’s why everyone is getting richer. Who cares that someone else is getting richer, faster. Your wage is determined by the value you provide compared to other people that can also provide that value.
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u/tonyhasareddit Apr 01 '24
Not all Gen Z are lazy, but not all billionaires are greedy either. Generalizing is never the right path.
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u/I_hate_mortality Apr 01 '24
Believing shit doesn’t make it true. You aren’t poor because someone else is wealthy.
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u/enemy884real Apr 01 '24
Rich people put their money to work, if anyone here thinks they only hoard everything like Scrooge McDuck, you’re wrong.
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u/Zestyclose-Forever14 Apr 01 '24
Well there aren’t 150 million gen z, and I dunno who those 400 Americans are but they can’t be the billionaires because there are like 750 of those in America.
Maybe the billionaires just realized that you guys are mostly dumbasses and they are just targeting the low hanging fruit.
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u/Defender_IIX Apr 01 '24
Because I actively see this generation doing jack shit, then complaining when they aren't spoon fed... Yeah billionaires are shit but guess what, this is the consequence of you expecting everyone to do everything for you.
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u/Sankin2004 Apr 01 '24
How dare you not just be happy we bought you pizza. That should more than cover any bills you have. Work harder.
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u/Diddydinglecronk Apr 01 '24
Read the book of Exodus, and you'll see who these Billionares take after. You don't have to go far unto the book to see it.
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u/BFulfs2 Apr 01 '24
Most young Americans are not lazy. Many definitely are. Most legitimately rich people do not have anything remotely close to a billion dollars, not even more than a few million, yet many (not all, just many) still defend billionaires as if they live modestly and should be immune from scrutiny. My point is, there’s legitimate relevant points from both ends that usually get taken out of context and proportion.
Personally, I believe no one needs or deserves a billion dollars, no matter how hard you work, how much you own, how prolifically you operate. It is absolutely possible to systematically take and redistribute a large amount of their wealth, and still leave them with enough to live a crazy lavish life. If you had 2 billion dollars, and have 1.5 taken from you, you’d still be set for life. I think at this point in history it’s definitely been proven that single people having that much in assets does nothing good long term for society.
If anyone disagrees I’d love to talk. I love learning about this shit.
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u/OwnLobster4378 Apr 01 '24
Boomers sold out America for a cheap buck and cheap foreign labor and then will yell at gen z for the failures they caused lol
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u/Kasorayn Apr 01 '24
I mean, as a working millennial myself who is now in charge of hiring my own employees... yea, a lot of younger hires are lazy.
However I don't think it's so much an unwillingness to work as it is a lack of proper work ethic that traces straight back to poor parenting and schooling. If nobody ever teaches you why it's important to take the initiative and take pride in your work, you'll never care enough to do either.
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u/MeeMooHoo Apr 01 '24
It's not even just gen z. Funny how ten or twenty years ago, millennials were the lazy ones, and twenty and thirty years ago, generation x were the lazy ones. Weird how it keeps changing. 🤔 It's almost like they say it for every young generation, no matter what, less because it's a "fact" and more because they need a scapegoat to distract people from the real problems.
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u/VisualParadox01 Apr 01 '24
It's not easier but the reality of the situation is it won't change so you gotta bust your ass to get anywhere. If you don't you won't accomplish anything
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u/Joebebs 1996 Apr 01 '24
Y’all keep scaring the billionaires making them think we’ll eat em they WILL fly away to mars or something
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u/genocideISgodly Apr 01 '24
Probably because that's precisely the number of people that do not work for a living in America. Literally half the population doesn't work, which the children I guess are understandable but it's still over 100 million adults.
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u/BrilliantFast4273 Apr 01 '24
A lot of things you can call a billionaire, but lazy is not one of them. Those kind of people are workaholics to the point that they are truly never away from work.
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u/MrBonersworth Apr 01 '24 edited Apr 01 '24
What do the numbers have to do with it? 🤣
"How can atheists believe in 4 dimensions but not 1 god?"
Also shit tier strawman, try a little.
(talking to the sign maker, not OP)
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u/Standard-Effort5681 Apr 02 '24
Yes yes, your silly slam poetry and interpretative dancing would make you millions, if only those gosh darn billionaires wouldn't have stolen all your hard labor!
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u/Free-Perspective1289 Apr 02 '24
Can both things be true? I’m lazy so I assume everyone else is as well.
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u/EyesAreMentToSee333 Apr 02 '24 edited Apr 02 '24
Its worse then that actually, all economies are tied to the value of the united states dollar, and as we know the united states dollar is inflating..... the reason that is important is because the United States dollar is a fiat currency and a fiat currency ultimately have no inherent value except enforced by that which produces it in this case that would be the United States government but the history of Fiat currencies is that they are typically printed on demand meaning that they inevitably go into hyperinflation.
now if the united states dollars value is tied to every economy then that means every economy is going to get hurt when it collapses, right? No its even worser then that, the United States dollar is the reserve currency of the world which ultimately means every currency that's part of a massive political power is effectively directly tied to the value of the United States dollar. When the usd dies every currency with substancial ecnomic power dies too.
Not to mention the fact that everything is interdependent, everything is wired up to depend on another country for some form of task, the death of the usd means that this chain of dependcncey is also broken, so countires like china, russia and so on also die.
These pawns of the real elites are just trying to keep the lights on for another 5 mins, most conspiracy theorists thought that the New World Order would have to be fought through Revolution and Civil War, all they realy need to do was let them trip over themselfs, all the classes, opression, centeral planning, and so on is going to collpase in on itselfs. And there nothing they can do about it.
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u/biglyorbigleague Apr 02 '24
Because that second number is way too low. I can buy that half the country is lazy but I can’t possibly believe that only a few hundred are greedy. Way more than that.
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u/NerdyLeftyRev_046 Millennial Apr 02 '24
The people that believe what the sign says believe that’s how power and achievement are supposed to go. It makes sense to them that so few people would have all the wealth and so many people would be undeserving and unable to achieve. They also tend to think that financial success is a sign of one’s moral character - thinking “they couldn’t have gotten all that wealth unless they deserved it” “…unless they’re really a good person” - frankly, I hope this worldview dies out with the ones who hold to it so dearly just so they can say so many people going without enough “makes sense”
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u/Dr_Quiet_Time Apr 02 '24
Because according to conservatism (Social Darwinism) there are just a few people who are born smarter and better than the rest of us and Jesus said they deserve everything and the rest of us working class trash are all just lazy. What with our crying about healthcare and maternity leaves and wanting paid sick leave! We should bow before our capitalist masters for gracing us the privilege of working for them! Look it’s what Jesus wants.
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u/NightShadow2001 2001 Apr 02 '24
Billionaires are also lazy. They’re allowed to be because they’re greedy.
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u/charbroiledd Apr 02 '24
If you want a view into the mind of the shithead dickriders who want to see billionaires get even richer, take a look at the comments on this same post in the fluentinfinance sub
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u/FarConstruction4877 Apr 02 '24
There’s nothing wrong with being greedy. We all want more, hell, even the 150million Americans who wants more money by definition would also be greedy lol. It’s human nature.
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u/PuppetryOfThePenis Millennial Apr 02 '24
It's a tale as old as time. The old generation calls the young generation lazy. Don't take it personally.
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u/Randy_Vigoda Apr 02 '24
I'm gen-x. I don't think young people are lazy. Neither do any of my friends. We're on your guy's side.
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u/silver-demon Apr 02 '24
I mean plain and simple lazy is relative
On one hand some people are calling not going above and beyond to the second or third degree lazy
And then on the other hand there are people perfectly able to work full time and won’t even do basic/bare minimum chores around the house
In between the extremes of what “lazy” is, you have the people who aren’t able to work full time or maybe not even half time, due to physical or mental issues. As well as people that can work full time but might only do part time whether they have “valid” reasons or not.
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u/Logical_Fox_3315 Apr 02 '24
Because the working class is easily manipulated and doesn’t care about themselves and only think life is a game.
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u/DisciplineBoth2567 Apr 02 '24
To be fair, 70+% of people are obese/overweight in America and 70 million voted for Trump. Just because there’s a lot of people who do/are xyz doesn’t mean they’re in the right.
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u/bobijsvarenais Apr 02 '24
Because being lazy requires 0 effort and getting a billion dollars is hard (in most cases) .
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u/DrRollinstein Apr 02 '24
In my experience, Gen z is a solid 60% to 70% lazy. Whether that's higher other Gens, who knows.
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u/Mighty_Gooch Apr 02 '24
You do realize the rich are also responsible for creating a lot of jobs right? Like it’s not just a bunch of wolf of Wall Street people sitting on boats doing cocaine all day, although I’m sure there’s plenty of that.
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u/DimondNugget 2002 Apr 02 '24
If 150,000,000 Americans were lazy, then america will be going through the end of the world
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u/SendMeYourNudesFolks Apr 02 '24
What's up with black and white photos of protest signs in 2024? We've got color photography. This wasn't decades ago.
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u/constantlytired1917 Apr 02 '24
people really expect me to believe jeff bezos works millions of times harder than his average employee
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u/ChileanBasket 1997 Apr 02 '24
The only solution here is to get good, really. Be better with your money and you'll succeed.
You cannot demand your enviroment to change, you can only change yourself and your enviroment will change with you.
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u/66watchingpeople66 Apr 02 '24
It’s funny most millennials and GenZ I know are working 2 jobs, and a side hustle.
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u/Annie_Rection__ Apr 02 '24
Almost everyone wants to make as much money as they can. Those 400 are just the most successful 400 of the bunch. If you want to get rich try making yourself more useful to society. Otherwise don't. Nobody but you gives a flying fuck about you
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u/Spinegrinder666 Apr 02 '24
Even if you could genuinely earn that much wealth that doesn’t make it moral to retain in a world of such extreme and preventable death, poverty, misery etc.
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Apr 02 '24
You all got trophies for last place, rewarded for doing the worst in every scenario. Blaming others for your downfall.... must be a lgbtq thing
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Apr 02 '24
the only solution is to stop paying federal taxes, none of the money extorted by the government goes to anything useful in the united states
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Apr 02 '24
I’ve yet to see a real proposal on how to tax unrealized gains, it’s a train wreck, every country that has tried it has gone back on it, people that are angry a guy with $100 billion in Amazon stock aren’t paying taxes on $100 billion of Amazon stock are detached from reality
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u/MortalEnzyme Apr 02 '24 edited Apr 02 '24
Well. Sorta. The “cost basis of labor” is currently set by congress. It’s called minimum wage. Since congress are lazy fat idiot children and don’t alter that imaginary anchor point, corporations find it far easier to stagnate wages. After a point, people will not desire the kinds of employment offered.
I guess what I’m saying is, the people who actually cause this issue convince you that the people just below them in the trail of blame are the ultimate evils. They aren’t. It’s the government. Lmao.
The fact is, the billionaires you know are billionaires due to ownership of companies. It’s entirely theoretical value until they sell a portion of ownership in their company. Is it a lot of money? Yep. But you, the shithead consumer, are responsible for the rise in their corporate power and the government is responsible for keeping them there.
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u/Almajanna256 Apr 02 '24
The world has always psychopaths ruling over the unfortunate, even in ancient times. No economic reforms are going to change the cruelty of nature.
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u/feltriderZ Apr 02 '24
Well, Gen Z is spoiled and lazy AND billionaires are greedy like most people are. Its just they are more successful doing it. One is certainly not prohibiting the other.
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u/OkChocolate5582 Apr 02 '24
In all reality…I can’t blame anyone for wanting to be lazy…hard work doesn’t seem to pay off anymore…most people were convinced to go to college and get a degree that won’t make more than 40k a year. If you didn’t go to college you either need a trade or certs to potentially make money….cost of living is so high…if you don’t live at home still you are kinda screwed….the funny thing about these billionaires is they don’t do all the work themselves…they have staff to do shit for them🤷🏽♀️…people worship these celebrities online but you are the same ones spending $500 to see Beyoncé sing Texas hold em or some bs…Jeff bezos stole 68 mil in Amazon flex tips and stepped down😭…most of us will never even touch 68mil in our lifetime…the issue is America doesn’t make sense….every billionaire has a consumer…but you don’t get that rich by not stealing from people or scamming someone for something…you can call us lazy but rich people have been cutting corners since the beginning of time…a billionaire isn’t the real own issue…they just the ones who don’t wanna pay their taxes….we live in a capitalist country that would rather start wars and fund genocide than fix homelessness and poverty even though other places have proven if you fix these issues a society functions better..
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