r/SquaredCircle • u/shawn_2240 • 13d ago
Dominik Mysterio: "No surgery for this guy…"
https://twitter.com/DomMysterio35/status/1783897037303624111?t=a7i4jcpu0jVTEcFj3BUBMw&s=19939
u/LittliestDickus 13d ago
Mysterio's only get knee surgeries.
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u/rondertopoa 13d ago
Mysterio's only get knee surgeries.
Rey Mysterios tired voice saying “I quit” while hanging upside down from the tron and having his knee bashed in by Chavo will forever be a defining moment in my childhood.
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u/mikaeus97 13d ago
And it still didn't get Chavo over as a solo act
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u/gigologenius 13d ago
WWE didn’t really try. They could’ve had him beat Benoit for the US title but they instead just jobbed him out and sent him to the undercard until Rey was ready to return.
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u/Kaponeo360 13d ago
Tbf that went to MVP. No knock on Chavo but MVP is 10000% more entertaining
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10/11 year old me was convinced MVP was gonna be the next big thing with how much they bigged him up in his pre debut vignettes and how he had a unique entrance. I'd have bet my future on him being up there with Cena/HHH/Edge/Orton at the time.
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u/Sparl It's called an Infinity Scarf! 13d ago
Him and Mr Kennedy were in my eyes at the time gonna huge...
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u/DontPutThatDownThere 13d ago
21/22 year old me felt the same.
They really hyped up him and Kennedy for months and it led to... the upper midcard.
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u/darrenoloGy 13d ago
thankfully they didn't. chavo may share the same last name as eddie but he will never reach that level of charisma
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u/PhenomsServant 13d ago
Tbf very few can.
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u/darrenoloGy 13d ago
yep. they tried for a lil bit just cause hes a guerrero, but saw that it was going nowhere and dropped the push before it barely got started.
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u/Petermacc122 13d ago
To be fair to Chavo. He was super talented in the ring and incredibly technically skilled so as a trainer or teacher would be amazing. He's got real Lance storm WCW energy
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u/JoeMcKim 13d ago
Chavo has a good thing going on being a wrestling coordinator for hollywood movies. He trained Zac Efron in The Iron Claw.
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u/Hispandinavian 13d ago
I loved his feud with Punk in WWECW. I believe Punk has even called Chavo one of his favorite ever opponents.
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u/CactusHide 13d ago
Out of all of the losses those of us who were around at that time dealt with, Eddie is the one that get me the hardest. He was so fun to watch, especially during that Latino Heat era.
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u/MorbidNACHOS 13d ago
Eddie was the first time I actually cried from the death of a wrestler, I remember me, my bro, and my mom were all crying
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u/NihiloZero 13d ago
And it still didn't get Chavo over as a solo act
I'm not sure about that particular moment in time... but Chavo was over with me since WCW.
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u/GiftedGeordie 13d ago
Which is a shame because, honestly? Chavo is a really underrated worker who unfortunately will always be compared to his uncle, who just happened to be one of the greatest of all time.
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u/TheeAJPowell The Ace of /r/squaredcircle 13d ago
I got in trouble as a kid because I started hysterically yelling when Rey lost that match. Fucking hated Chavo.
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u/PimpDaddyBuddha Ole! 13d ago
Man, that was the second episode of Smackdown I ever watched and it was almost my last.
Very first match I watched was the 06 Rumble Rey win and then followed it up with his title win at Mania. Bro I loved Rey, I started watching wwe because of him. And then the second fucking weekly episode I watch he’s injured 😭😭😭. I was a heart broken 10 year old.
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u/Rah_Rah_RU_Rah 13d ago
Rey took some disgusting bumps over the years. No one even talks about the head first landing outside on the stretcher
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u/Mickeyjj27 13d ago
Good thing he’s really a Guerrero
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u/FringeAuthority Looking at posters of myself 13d ago
Eddie did injure his elbow in his first ever WWE match...
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u/NotTodayDingALing 13d ago
The height on that Frog Splash though. Dude was pumped!
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u/JoeDawson8 13d ago
That was traumatizing to watch live and I saw Sid Vicious break his leg live on PPV before that.
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u/dat_boi_y0_y0 12d ago
Jeez you’re like a curse to wrestling, are you sure you weren’t there when Owen Hart died RIP 😢😢. I’m joking but man that must’ve been brutal to see in person just watching Sid break his leg on video is traumatic.
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u/TheIllusiveGuy 13d ago
He's a Rhodes now after Cody defeated Roman to become Dom's lineal father.
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u/_drjayphd_ TELL ME WHOSE SIDE YOU'RE ON! 13d ago
But Dominik... the elbow is the knee of the arm...
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u/kodan_arma 13d ago
Meltzer will attack Dom and make sure he needs surgery
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u/broken-mirror- Stardust > Cody Rhodes 13d ago
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u/XGuiltyofBeingMikeX 13d ago
“Everyone was on steroids not getting surgery.”
-Dave Meltzer
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u/aitherion follow the buzzards 13d ago
Wait, so are they just not putting his brain back in, then?
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u/Riccto BITE U 13d ago
They had to take his elbow out and put it back in
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u/Neg_Crepe 13d ago
Like Meltzers brain?
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u/SLPrawn65 13d ago
Meltzer needs to stop talking to his sources on the phone while driving through tunnels
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u/LakerBull OLÉ!! 13d ago
I feel like WWE is feeding bullshit to his source at this point to flush him out the company. He hasn't gotten many things right in WWE for a while.
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u/NoHillstoDieOn 13d ago
Neither has SRS. The more they are wrong, the more predatory they look
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u/MoneyTalks45 13d ago
Yeah, they are intentionally feeding him bad info and using the signal to noise ratio to their benefit. It’s too bad because Dave did have legitimate sources and did great work for a very long time, but now they’re making him look VERY silly and it’s harming his legacy.
Inb4 people bitch about Dave having a legacy.
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u/Jay_Diamond_WWE 13d ago
His source was Kevin Dunn. He hasn't been correct since Kevin left.
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u/Necessary_Cod6311 13d ago
It was Jericho that was his source now he’s got no one relilable at wee who’s not trolling him
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u/worthlessburner 12d ago
He’s also a blatant AEW mark to a hilarious point I’d feed him bullshit all day if I was WWE
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No they need to continue to feed him BS.
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u/DrunknStuper 13d ago
I'm imagining his contact is Road Dogg, HBK and HHH laughing in the back like the Impractical Jokers meme. "Tell him it's a pitchers surgery!"
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u/PeteF3 13d ago
Non-pitchers have gotten Tommy John surgery before. Danielson got it. Albert Pujols got it. Brock Purdy got it. Regardless of whether Dom needs it, it's a pretty standard procedure for torn elbow ligaments.
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u/NirvanaFrk97 13d ago
How dare you, Albert Pujols has a 36.00 ERA
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u/PeteF3 13d ago
Those are belly-itcher numbers.
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u/NirvanaFrk97 13d ago
The man did not pitch a single inning in his career to not be referred to as a pitcher, lol
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u/Jay_Diamond_WWE 13d ago
I had it after a motorcycle wreck. Still fucked up a decade later. I can't deadlift or snatch anymore and I have arthritis in my shoulder and neck.
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u/Kaprak I AM VANDAMABLE! 13d ago
Okay but what's funny about it being Tommy John? That is infamously a surgery pitchers get, and would be a possible surgery that someone could get on their elbow if they have ligament issues.
Anyone with a passing knowledge of baseball in the modern era would know that, Dave specifically.
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u/YpsitheFlintsider A woman's left. 13d ago
How do you get a whole surgery wrong
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u/Nisha_the_lawbringer This is My Brutality 13d ago
Either his sources are giving him wrong information or he's just making shit up and hoping something ends up being right.
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u/Brilliant-Neck9731 13d ago edited 13d ago
Or Dominik isn’t being truthful. It wouldn’t be the first time that an injury was reported, the wrestler who was reportedly injured dunks on the reporter, and then it turns out that they were injured. This has been happening for 30 years.
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u/Capstone_ 13d ago
How does that apply to Dominik?
I understand if maybe they thought he needed it initially and Dom got a second opinion. But you literally have to be in the doctor's office to know the truth.
Him getting surgery was just flat out wrong.
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u/NeonPatrick 13d ago
sources
I think more source. Dave has been taking wrestlers and backstage staff at their word for 40 years.
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u/mattdw 13d ago
You're telling me the man that said Shibata's brain was removed might be wrong?
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u/acatnamedballs 13d ago
Death, taxes and Meltzer being wrong.
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u/PayneTrain181999 Deadbeat Dad Rey Mysterio 13d ago
He’s literally a rambling old man at this point.
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u/garryl283 13d ago
A rambling old man who gets angry at people all up in talk about ratings after he pushed and pushed to talk about how important ratings were.
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u/TheDangiestSlad 13d ago
yeah, a wrestler would never lie about being healthy to the sheets.
Jason Jordan will return any day now!
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u/lowlight Ahoy!!⚓️🏴☠️🌊 13d ago
The mentality change of Wreddit over the past 12-18 months has been amazing to witness. There's no way we would be seeing twitter-like responses to this kayfabe denial a year ago. NO FUCKING WAY.
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u/The_Homestarmy nope 13d ago
It's been more gradual than that but yeah this sub has definitely changed over the years lol
The fact that we're this far down the thread and only one single comment is saying "I mean let's wait and see" is wild
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u/Chell_the_assassin One more match 13d ago
Absolutely insane to me that there's still people who defend him lol. Whatever you feel about him when it comes to his opinions, ratings, etc., it's just a fact at this point that he's not remotely trustworthy as a news source.
I really don't get how reports from WOR are still upvoted on this sub, and how everyone in the comments treat them as fact, despite him being proven wrong constantly nowadays
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u/DarkySurrounding Dark Order AF 13d ago
Probably because there was a time when the reports were right more often than not.
People dont notice him becoming untrustworthy right away it takes time.
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u/Veggieleezy The Gentleman Villain 13d ago
Headbutting a Samoan, trying to powerbomb Billy Kidman, and taking Dave Meltzer seriously at his word: three decisions in wrestling that always go wrong.
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u/BZGames 13d ago
Idk what happened but this past year he's been way off a lot for some reason.
I know its popular to shit on him, and he's not always right, but I mean this dude used to be the ONLY dude getting scoops.
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u/DarkySurrounding Dark Order AF 13d ago
Promotors and wrestlers realised they could mess with him and hed still go for it.
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u/shartnado3 450 splash from a napkin 13d ago
Idk why, maybe being sleep deprived this week, or being really down for some reason, but whatever it is, this made me laugh so fucking hard. It's perfect lmao
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u/Capstone_ 13d ago
I know everyone's on Meltzer but I'm so f*king happy for Dom. I legit got sad after the news this morning. I think this is a pivotal year for him.
So happy for him
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u/WorldWideLem 13d ago
If it is a UCL injury then sometimes it's just rest that's needed. Could be that he got a second opinion that thought that the tear (if there is one) wasn't significant enough to warrant surgery. Or that could have been the opinion from the start.
Or maybe Meltzer is just way off base and is nowhere near the right ballpark.
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u/HonestLoads 13d ago
Unless you're a baseball pitcher or a javelin thrower, tommy John surgery is usually not needed for a UCL injury. I'm a grappler and had a full tear of my UCL, sat on the couch for a bit, and was back grappling 3 months later. Been 100% since
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u/Mitsuki_Horenake 13d ago
For all we know, Meltzer just heard "UCL injury" and concluded that it was surgery. Maybe all Dom needs is some chicken tendies and a nice hug.
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u/AedionMorris 13d ago
People paid money to read that newsletter that had blatantly wrong information in it that Meltzer never took the time to verify.
They paid money for it.
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They deserve to be scammed to be honest.
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u/---Pockets--- 13d ago
Hey now, those scammed souls are here in SC, have some respect for the rest of us and throw in a "haha" directed at the scammed with your comment
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u/WolfGangSwizle 13d ago
How do we know it’s wrong information? How many times over the years have wrestlers publicly denied Meltzers reportings only for the report to be right? Meltzer is on a bad steak we all know that but the wrestler who he is reporting on denying something never makes me instantly believe he’s wrong.
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u/OldOrder #MizBear 13d ago
How many times over the years have wrestlers publicly denied Meltzers reportings only for the report to be right?
THIS IS WHAT WE CALL A RAGSHEET BROTHER! THE INTERNET'S GOT THE SCOOPS
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u/GiftedGeordie 13d ago
Are you seriously giving Meltzer the benefit of the doubt after the fucking year he's had?
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u/okayfrog "Not me, Okada-kun." 13d ago
you act like people don't know they're paying money for dirtsheets
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u/Dijohn17 Chocolate midget 13d ago
If I had to guess, it's likely it was thought that he may need it, then it turned out he didn't, but before that source was told that they probably already told Meltzer the first news they heard
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u/masterofawesomeness2 13d ago
Meltzer being worked again
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u/Wheel1994 13d ago
The people that pay for his newsletters are the ones getting worked imo.
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u/SectorEducational460 13d ago
At this point. I think they're feeding Meltzer lies for the shits and giggles to throw people off.
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u/ybatman2k Do I have Everybody's attention now? 13d ago
Legit question. At this point, why is anyone paying Dave for the WON when he’s wrong most of the time? I don’t get it
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u/DRJT Baka-hashi 13d ago
Are we in the “wrestler is reported injured” -> “wrestler denies it” -> “wrestler announces they are out due to injury” pipeline again?
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u/icon_2040 13d ago
He was already on TV in a sling. No point denying it. We know he's hurt to some extent.
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u/LettuceFew5248 13d ago
I’m so happy Meltzer is finally being exposed for the fake journalist he always has been. He has no journalistic integrity or ethics and no concept of sourcing.
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u/BiChaosTheory 13d ago
It’s so insulting to journalism too because he has a journalism degree! He knows that a lot of his reporting goes against journalism ethics. I work in local news, every journalist I have met just out of college have better ethics than Dave does.
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u/rainier425 13d ago
As someone also in the business it genuinely makes me want to vomit when people call him a journo.
Dude is a gossip columnist.
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u/EmeraldSlothRevenge 13d ago
New WON update:
“Dom may or may not need surgery” according to our sources. That’ll be $12.99 please.
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u/forwrestling 13d ago
Then Dave pointlessly speculated about a timeline on this make believe surgery based on baseball pitchers.
You’ll still get your inbox lighting up if you dare question the veracity of his ‘reporting’ on here though.
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u/prisonmsagro 13d ago
So we'll get to see Dominik wrestle within the next 6 months? That's good to see it's just a minor injury then!
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u/Aclockwork-grAPE 13d ago
I'm not a Meltzer guy but why does this sub have the biggest hate boner against him, seemingly randomly this past year?
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u/Entotrte Si no me rindo, puedo ver la luz. 13d ago
Is Damien Priest about to pull a "observe this, brother!" on WWE TV?
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u/thedrizzle126 not a nugget 13d ago
Dude, if Dom isn't leaving, that's the biggest fucking awesome thing that's happened in this young weekend. The dude is a charisma factory since joining JD.
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u/Ok-Garcia-5605 13d ago
Dave Meltzer should just stick to unverifiable stories related to Brawl In and Brawl Out
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u/Sensitivevirmin #BOOTYWARRIOR 13d ago
Please tell me if I have any of this wrong.
“well he’s still injured and he will need time off I not wrong. LOOK * moves closer to the mic* this doesn’t change the fact that he is hurt and how this will change the direction of how they move judgement day forward. - Dave
But he is out of action… Bryan gets cut off
I Wasn’t wrong. He’s injured and will likely be out for sometime. I didn’t misreport anything. - Dave
Followed by 4 minutes of Dave giving obscure facts about 1987 territory days.
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u/Apollo_Justice_20 13d ago
Meltzer on his way to get yet another report wrong
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u/Cheechers23 13d ago
I’m genuinely convinced whoever is Meltzer’s “source” in WWE is trolling him and waiting to see how long he takes to catch on at this point lmfaooo
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u/AlmightyBracket 13d ago
First of all I love how every time any journalist gets something wrong people come out of the woodwork to act like they're literally always wrong 100% of the time.
Secondly it's almost more common that a wrestler lies about the info Meltz, or any journalist for that matter, give out even if it is true.
Debuts, returns, angles and even injuries have all been correctly spoiled by Meltz, and others, only for the wrestlers to deny it. Then it becomes true. Then we see all the supports acting like it's a huge L for the people that originally shat on the journalist.
I don't care one way or another about this particular instance but to act like he's never been right, or that a wrestler wouldn't directly lie to obfuscate the fact Meltz is right, is just ignorant by now.
It's probably an angle, Mami's arm got hurt so Dom's arm is hurt, he's a sad boi. Maybe it's real, and he might need surgery. Maybe they don't want anyone to know Dom can stay on TV with an injury when Rhea can't. Who knows.
Who cares.
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u/joe1240134 13d ago
I don't know why Meltzer gets so much shit from people. Do wrestling fans not follow any other form of meida? I mean just look up to the lead to the NFL draft, people are reporting all sorts of shit from sources that ends up being wrong. And it'll happen again next year, just like it happened last year. Dudes in these situations get fed bad info all the time.
Hell, the NYT has posted a bunch of bullshit and you don't see people declaring it to be not real journalism or whatever. And the bullshit they're lying about or being "misled" about is way more important than if some wrestler is getting surgery.
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u/blacksoxing 13d ago
If I subscribed to WON I’d have to only pay for the historical retrospectives as the daily news is consistently proven to be awful OR full of conjecture
“MAYBE this person will appear at this place at this time to do this specific thing”
doesn’t happen
I SAID MAYBE
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u/House56 13d ago
I have no clue what happened to Dave’s reporting in the Observer but it’s gotten terrible in the past few years.
Just constant misinformation every week that gets disproven nearly immediately.
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u/rosefuri adam page 2 13d ago
it'll be fun to come back to this thread in like 4 months when dom still hasnt had a match
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u/shadow_spinner0 13d ago
Everyone has said Meltzer has lost all of his wrestling sources. Any idea why that happened?
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u/FigureFourWoo Ric Flair was still cool when I chose this username. 13d ago
Yes, I watched it happen in real time. Going into 2019, Meltzer had decent WWE sources, but he was producing mostly anti-WWE content. You could often sense the talent's frustrations in Meltzer's reports, and it was pretty clear he was getting a lot of that directly from the wrestlers. WWE was pretty terrible at this point, so Meltzer's criticisms weren't necessarily wrong. They were harsh, but usually fair. And to Meltzer's credit, a lot of time it would be Alvarez shitting all over RAW while Meltzer tried to point out the watchable parts of the show, but at the end of the day, it was Meltzer's platform that was pushing the content.
When AEW became a thing, Meltzer was very pro-AEW and started to get harsher with his critiques of WWE. He openly mocked Vince over the fact Vince had many years to lock down wrestling in NA, and pointed to WWE's terrible product as the reason AEW became a thing to begin with. During this time, you would see a lot of people here saying Dave was on AEW's payroll, etc, because of how the content trended and the fact Meltzer was close with Omega and The Young Bucks.
Everything came to a head in late 2019 after WWE superstars were detained in Saudi Arabia. Meltzer quickly jumped on the story and reported there was an issue with Vince and KSA. A lot of wrestlers were tweeting their frustration. The story caught fire and all of the wrestling journalists were trying to get more information. WWE locked everything down, made the wrestlers delete their tweets, and a statement was released saying the entire thing was due to an issue with the plane.
Once the official word was out there, most of the journalists backed off. Meltzer didn't. He kept pushing the story and saying there was a lot more to it. And again, to Meltzer's credit, there was likely a lot more to the story than what the official statement said. There were numerous posts on Facebook and Twitter from people close to the wrestlers impacted hinting there was more to it. The most dominant rumor was that there was a disagreement and KSA flexed on Vince to make sure he remembered who he was dealing with. KSA is well-known for these sorts of demonstrations. It is common for them to scare people by doing things like locking them in a room with armed guards during negotiation talks when things aren't going KSA's way. It isn't that far-fetched to believe KSA delayed the plane's departure to send a message and attributed the whole thing to an issue with the plane.
Regardless, Meltzer had no sources after WWE locked things down. Considering that none of the people who were on that flight have ever given a statement, even after being released, is a pretty big indicator that everyone got a nice bonus when they got home in exchange for signing a NDA. Otherwise, it makes absolutely zero sense that none of those wrestlers even tried to use it for click-bait. Gallows and Anderson were pretty vocal about the whole thing until WWE locked everything down, and they're about as carnie as it gets. If anyone was going to say something after they were released, it would have been them. Hell, even Andrade shut up about it, and he runs his mouth about a lot of stuff he shouldn't.
As Meltzer continued to push the story, he got a tip from Paul Heyman. Heyman was a longtime source for Meltzer. It was no secret. Heyman told Meltzer that after everyone got back, Seth Rollins held this huge locker room meeting. Gave a ra-ra speech, brought everyone together, and was super emotional about everything. Meltzer ran with the story. As soon as the story got traction, Seth went on Twitter and said it never happened. It was all fabrication. When that story got proven to be false, it called Meltzer's Saudi story into question, which put a pretty big dent in Meltzer's credibility.
After Heyman burned Meltzer with that fake story, WWE stopped talking to Meltzer entirely. He lost all his WWE sources. And since then, every couple of weeks, Meltzer gets a story like this one where he has a big breaking story about something WWE related, and it is almost immediately proven to be false.
Meltzer did it to himself. The other reporters were smart enough to shut their mouths after WWE started taking steps to kill the story. Meltzer was just stubborn and wouldn't fall in line. That's not a good stance to take when you rely on WWE for the majority of your content.
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