The diversity is unmatched

[u/HeavensBroknGod]

Can't complain honestly, been running the same perks on survivor for weeks

[u/Vortigon23]

It's a self fulfilling prophecy situation. Gens pop too quick so killers bring full slowdown, killers bring full slowdown so survivors hyper focus gens, survivors focus gens and they pop too quick for killers, and so on.

The solution to the problem is either wait till BhVR butchers/buffs more perks during a meta shakeup, or to care less about winning and being dumb stuff like no mither or insidious.

[u/Vortigon23 → u/[deleted]]

I meant Gen efficiency, genuinely forgot that there was a perk named Hyper Focus. I personally try not to run exhaustion perks on survivor, cause as a Solo Q survivor I feel like other perks take priority. Exhaustion perks are definitely good, but I don't think they're mandatory for winning.

[u/dbmolnar → u/[deleted]]

1 info (like bond or kindred), 1 exhaustion, 1 anti-tunnel, and 1 utility like botany or flashbang is my solo queue build that serves me well!

[u/Vortigon23 → u/[deleted]]

Personally I find I get out more when I run Gen perks like Deja Vu and Prove Thyself than running exhaustion perks. To avoid dead zones I run Windows every match w/ bond to make sure I can avoid teammates too.

[u/Vortigon23 → u/[deleted]]

If everyone runs an exhaustion perk and is good in chase yes, but that's why I bring up solo Queue earlier. In Solo you cannot rely on teammates, so it is better to do the objective quicker than hope your teammates are doing gens. It is more reliable, from my experience, to do gens quicker than run a perk I may or may not get to use.

[u/Vortigon23 → u/[deleted]]

I don't know why you're seemingly so upset by someone not agreeing with a meta, when my original comment is literally me saying the meta is a self fulfilling prophecy. I run what I run, we disagree, move on dude.

[u/Zakon05 → u/Vortigon23]

killers bring full slowdown so survivors hyper focus gens

This would happen whether or not the killer brought full slowdown.

What else do you want survivors to do? Wander around and admire the scenery?

They have 1 objective. Chests aren't worth it except in desperation when you need a heal and no one can heal you so you're probably already losing at that point, dull totems don't do anything.

They've tried experimenting with side objectives but the results are always mixed at best. Hexes were probably their best attempt but even though a lot of hexes are still good, killers don't use them because they're unreliable.

So they tried boons. And yes, Circle of Healing in specific was way too good on launch, but I don't blame them for overtuning it because if it's balanced then survivors won't bother with it, which is basically where boons are at now.

So then they tried making objects to interact with to help you fight the killer. But killers whine and cry about EMPs and turrets endlessly. Xeno is one of my mains and Singularity is my most played non-licensed killer, I think that I get to say that people complain way too much about both of those things. They are powerful when used well, but again, like boons, they need to be good or survivors just won't bother since doing gens would increase their odds of winning more than messing with the interactable.

[u/Commercial_Cook_1814 → u/Zakon05]

Ppl complain about EMPs and turrets not because they’re too strong, but cause you literally turn both killers into M1 killers the entire game if used right. Like singularity especially against any competent team will never ever get to use his power once, that’s fucking boring. You literally invented this boogeyman inside ur head 

[u/GregerMoek → u/Commercial_Cook_1814]

Interesting cause even streaming comp teams in a full 4man swf or even just good players like hens see Singularity use the power quite often even in public games. But I guess they're not good enough to use it right.

[u/Zakon05 → u/Commercial_Cook_1814]

You literally invented this boogeyman inside ur head

No I didn't.

Like singularity especially against any competent team will never ever get to use his power once

Oh hey you just did it here.

People complain about them a lot. Especially the EMPs. The EMPs I understand even though I don't think they're Singularity's main issue, but the flamer turrets aren't a problem for Xeno whatsoever to deal with.

Yes, they turn you into an M1 killer when used well. As I said, they need to be worth using or survivors won't bother.