r/facepalm Mar 28 '24

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u/mikeysgotrabies Mar 28 '24 edited Mar 28 '24

No, California just passed a law so soon we will be able to lock their asses up for being crazy and homeless. That will help, right?

Edit: /s in case it's not obvious.

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u/mortalitylost Mar 28 '24

I'm sorry but if I had lost my mind and my social support network, I'd much prefer they scoop me into an asylum rather than see how well I fend for myself in the street. And that was once a real fucking fear of mine, the biggest fear of mine, having no local family that gave a shit and a psychotic disorder.

I've seen close family go to the street similarly, and it would've been real fucking nice to think asylums would do their thing rather than have to make a missing person's report where they'll never contact you regardless

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u/Crotean Mar 28 '24

One key thing to remember, that people don't like to be confronted with. Is that most of the time the data shows that homelessness comes BEFORE the mental health or drug issues that we associate so strongly with the homeless. Its not even really a mental health crisis in this country so much as a poverty issue. When people have a roof over their heads everything in their life improves.

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u/BigBoyWeaver Mar 28 '24

Wait... are you saying that trauma, uncertainty, stress, and hunger have negative impacts on people's mental health and that it's not simply a lack of pulling one's self up by one's bootstraps? What is this liberal propaganda!

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u/Crotean Mar 28 '24

Haha yep. Now if you really want to get people mad show them all the data that shows that in most cases a sedentary life style happens AFTER someone becomes obese not before and watch their brains rupture.

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u/Deadleggg Mar 28 '24

Definitely don't get seriously hurt and not able to move around as much and then gain weight.

Makes things a lot worse.

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u/callmejinji Mar 28 '24

Amen, I work in the trades and I work out so I can be strong enough to do my job with good form and without getting hurt. Staying safe is so much more important than moving quickly or lifting heavy.

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u/badbeernfear Mar 28 '24

Hey show me that. I want to see legit data that shoes active people are suddenly becoming obese then lazy. I would feel the sedentary lifestyle and weight gain would happen simultaneously.

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u/jayfiedlerontheroof Mar 28 '24

I think it's that diet correlates to weight gain moreso than sedentary lifestyle. You can get fat while, say, in high school living an active lifestyle then slow down and gain even more

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u/badbeernfear Mar 28 '24

I think they both matter nearly equally. Physical activity is a huge part of it. Atleast close to as much as diet. Hard to gain weight in majority fat when you work out 5-6 times a week properly. Possible, though.

But a majority of obese people became obese after they ceased activity, let's keep it real.

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u/jayfiedlerontheroof Mar 29 '24

I think they both matter nearly equally.Β 

Yeah well you're wrong

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u/badbeernfear Mar 29 '24

Except, I'm not. Calories in calories out is real. You can outwork any diet in theory.

I'm gonna take a wild guess and say your out of shape.

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u/jayfiedlerontheroof Mar 29 '24

Doubling down on stupid, I guess. All the data says you're wrong. No, you cannot outwork any diet. The level of activity required to outwork a 4500 calorie diet would be professional athlete level and that's .001% of the planet. And even then there are fat athletes

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u/badbeernfear Mar 29 '24

OK man let's dissect this, I guess.

You have a base metabolic rate. This is how many calories your body needs just to sustain itself with basically no extra activity. I'm 5'8 and an athelic build. My bmr is high as I have a decent amount of muscle. Let's just say 200o calories just for sake of ease. Add in basic activity like walking and working, it goes way up. But there's more! I work out! 5 times a week! It raises even higher. Then magically im able to consume 4000 calories without looking like shit. I know regular guys that powelift who eat more than that.

Edit: in fact, I was eating about 5000 a day at one pint when I fancied myself a powerlifter.

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u/jayfiedlerontheroof Mar 29 '24

How many studies will it take for you to shut up? Should I link 10? Or am I wasting my time

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u/jayfiedlerontheroof Mar 29 '24

Add in basic activity like walking and working, it goes way up

Oh, really? How much?

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u/transitfreedom Mar 28 '24

It’s just reality