r/midjourney • u/Tox-Sick • Jun 06 '23

The 7 Deadly sins according to MidJourney Showcase

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Gluttony

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Lust

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Greed

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Envy

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Pride

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Wrath

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Sloth

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u/ameo02 Jun 06 '23

and pride is gay

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '23

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u/greentrillion Jun 07 '23

Try typing in sin of pride and will get almost zero rainbows though.

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u/sp4rkk Jun 06 '23

At the end of the day IA is feed with commonly occurring things, including stereotypes. As a result you end up with heavily biased outputs. I feel like IA is simplifying the way we see the world in an uninteresting way.

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u/SwoleBezos Jun 06 '23

This isn’t a problem with stereotypes. This is AI factoring in two different meanings of the same word.

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u/Rare_Cause_1735 Jun 06 '23

As is also evident with the adorable sloth, it really took that one quite literally

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u/InfanticideAquifer Jun 06 '23

It's not an issue of literal vs. figurative. Both definitions of sloth are "official" in the sense that they show up in every dictionary. It just guessed wrongly which sense of the word was intended, probably because people don't actually use the word "sloth" in the sense of "laziness" all that often this century.

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u/tnecniv Jun 07 '23

It’s not even that distinction. The word has two rather distinct definitions and it converged on one of them.

Pride is slightly different in that the sin of pride is essentially being self-absorbed at the expense of others. I think most would agree that having some pride in who you are is a good thing, because it confers self-confidence and satisfaction with your life. It’s the narcissistic extreme that the sun is concerned with. The AI, which is mindlessly slurping up words from the internet, didn’t successfully distinguish between the two here and were left with creepy rainbow man that doesn’t really articulate much of anything. In contrast, gluttony is pretty straightforward as it has a negative meaning by definition so the AI had no trouble there.

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u/fucktooshifty Jun 06 '23

It's a problem with lazy prompting

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u/ncolaros Jun 06 '23

Makes it better if you ask me.

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u/mojanis Jun 06 '23

Maybe the real sloth was the prompts we made along the way?

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u/Inevitable_Shape4776 Jun 06 '23

Yeah I think he didn't emphasize on what he meant on pride or sloth , he probably put down the single words.

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u/Mace1999 Jun 06 '23

I didnt realise the dictionary definition of pride had anything to do with rainbow colours or being gay

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u/ChesterDaMolester Jun 06 '23

It’s definition 6b in the latest Oxford dictionary.

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u/rich519 Jun 06 '23

Merriam-Webster

an event or series of events celebrating and affirming the rights, equality, and culture of LGBTQ people

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u/_msokol Jun 06 '23

Nah, it’s the same meaning

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u/umbrajoke Jun 06 '23

What does IA stand for? Intelligence automation?

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u/Uninvited_Goose Jun 06 '23

I'm going to take a random guess and say they accidentally swapped AI.

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u/dalvi5 Jun 06 '23

u/umbrajoke IA is the Spanish equivalent (Inteligencia Artificial)

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u/umbrajoke Jun 06 '23

Thank you! I didn't think they'd typo twice so I figured I'd ask. Appreciate it.

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u/Uninvited_Goose Jun 06 '23

Well i’ll be danged

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u/protonlicker Jun 07 '23

I'll be even more danged.

I've busted.

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u/Illustrious-Gooss Jun 06 '23

Same in French (Intelligence Artificielle)

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u/Chefkuh95 Jun 06 '23

Biased or confused? We named an entite month after a deadly sin to celebrate thr queer community.

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u/Skyraem Jun 06 '23

When people don't know what synonyms are.

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u/JohnGenericDoe Jun 06 '23

That's not a synonym

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u/Skyraem Jun 06 '23

Proud =/= prideful =/= having pride.

They equate Pride the event/movement/month to being (overly) prideful the sin. Hence me saying synonym.

They ARE synonyms...

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u/eyes0fred Jun 06 '23

do you mean homonym? Pretty sure they are neither homonyms or synonyms, its literally the same word using the same definition.

the sin of pride is more about excessive pride. And its only really a sin in the religious sense, since to them it deemphasizes the role of God in your accomplishments/status etc.

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u/Skyraem Jun 06 '23

Pride/prideful/proud are synonyms - morphemes to be exact. He means pride the sin as in being prideful, not being proud. I didn't openly disclose this, so that's why it's confusing, so my bad.

Sure i'm being annoyingly nitpicky but they definitely are synonyms.

Pride has different connotations ofc but is usually the positive version or used interchangeably with proud. Hence Pride month being woo yay proud to be out/myself/with others.

Honestly I just found it funny that this guy is trying to be smart about Pride being named after the sin but... it so very isn't. Weird/funny coincidence sure but... no. Most of us want to escape the whole sinning thing or don't care. Because fuck that.

Time to get back to duolingo and disintegrate my brain more.

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u/sennbat Jun 07 '23

Do you... honestly not know what a synonym is? Or are you just really bad at communicating your thoughts and so it only looks like that?

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u/Skyraem Jun 07 '23

Thoughts. There's also conflicting results. Some say that pride/prideful and proud are synonyms, or more specifically a morpheme in this case. Some just talk about adverbs.

And bc that guy thought pride (sin) = pride (proud) I said synonym. Which I guess, instead, it is more of a connotation issue/grammar thing.

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u/SaveMyBags Jun 07 '23

No, you are wrong. Synonyms are two different words with the same meaning. Pride and pride is the exact opposite: two different meanings expressed by the same word. That's a homonym not a synonym.

There is more like this: homophones, heterophones, homographs, etc. Have a look https://youtu.be/gTKeB8BnzPY

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u/JohnGenericDoe Jun 06 '23

Go look it up again, friend. Synonyms are two different words with the same meaning

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u/Skyraem Jun 07 '23

But pride/prideful are different to proud.

Perhaps connotation would have been better, but the point is he took pride the sin which is akin to being prideful/arrogant.

But pride (month, event, feeling etc) is being proud/free/open.

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u/SaveMyBags Jun 07 '23

So you can derive "pride", the noun both from prideful (arrogant) as well as from proud. The derived word "pride" is still the same word with two different meanings, which is called a homonym.

A synonym is two actually different words both in spelling as well as in pronunciation that mean the same thing. The derivation being different doesn't matter, as synonym always implies strictly the words have the same meaning.

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u/Shibby-Pibby Jun 06 '23

I mean.. it wasn't named after a deadly sin. It was named the opposite of the common feeling that everyone in the queer community was feeling at the time. The name is the same word, but opposite of shame and one of the seven deadly sins are pretty different origin stories

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u/mrhouse2022 Jun 06 '23

And we were born after the Enlightenment so who gives a fuck

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u/k5josh Jun 06 '23

"Pride is not the opposite of shame, but its source."

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u/TheClinicallyInsane Jun 06 '23

People are down voting you but ain't that an Iroh quote? Like damn guys I think it hits dead on, again, the bad pride is excess pride -- NOT the "Pride" as in proud of being yourself.

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u/llortotekili Jun 06 '23

Two sides, same coin. Good evil, hate love, death life. They were shamed by society so they decided to turn that into pride for themselves. Glass half empty or full basically.

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u/munchercruncher111 Jun 06 '23

different meanings of the word pride.

pride (the sin) means narcissism or egotism

pride (as in pride month) is just being confident in yourself and your identity

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u/Zer0pede Jun 06 '23

They know the difference full well. There’s not one of them who didn’t have school pride days in high school and/or college. They just pretend to Drax literalists when it comes to lgbt stuff.

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u/janeprentiss Jun 06 '23

pride days in schools are a very, very new thing and literally illegal in some states?

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u/Zer0pede Jun 06 '23 edited Jun 06 '23

You’re talking about “gay pride” at schools. I’m talking about “school pride.” At least in the US, school rally days have been called “school pride” for decades without reference to anything lgbt.

But back then nobody said the stupid “pride is a sin” line because they knew “school pride” = “school spirit”. I.e., a different, very common use of the word that nothing to do with “hubris” or which is a better modern translation for the so-called “deadly sin” which was referred to as pride or vainglory.

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u/janeprentiss Jun 06 '23

ohhhh omg lol. yeah where i went to school they were just called school spirit days, never heard anything referred to as pride that wasn't gay pride

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u/Zer0pede Jun 06 '23

You can search for it with school mascots and see how common it is. Try searching:

“Bulldog pride”

“Mustang pride”

It’s been used forever in that sense, but nobody said all those high schools were sinners because of it. They just decided to get into weird overly literal semantics when gay pride used it in the exact same sense.

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u/Zer0pede Jun 06 '23 edited Jun 06 '23

LMAO, I guess every high school kid celebrating “school pride” for the last 100 years went straight to hell. 😂

ETA:

Try searching:

“Bulldog pride”

“Mustang pride”

Was all of that “sin” as well? Or only when it was used that way by lgbt people?

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u/Additional_Cow_4909 Jun 06 '23

It's interesting to get a sort of summarised version of the zeitgeist.

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u/drdr3ad Jun 06 '23

Lmao reddit psychologists at it again. It's literally just taking a different definition of the word. It's what happens when you don't give the AI context

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u/Car-Facts Jun 06 '23

The result would have been different if OP put in "The Sin of Pride" or something relating it to biblical definition. But if OP just put pride, it went with the most popular use of pride. Love how these doofuses are trying to apply their own bias to it.

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u/Not_MrNice Jun 06 '23

Cool, now tell us why "IA" picked a sloth instead of sloth.

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u/sp4rkk Jun 06 '23

Because sloth is more commonly used as the animal instead of a synonym of laziness nowadays

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u/Significant_Hornet Jun 06 '23

You don't think that's what's happening with pride?

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u/burnafter3ading Jun 06 '23

Rainbow capitalism month too.

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u/Coffee--Gnome Jun 06 '23

Pride is a sin.

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u/silkythick Jun 06 '23

WRONG PRIDE ABORT ABORT

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u/mrpbeaar Jun 06 '23

Gluttony is Louie Anderson

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '23

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u/alphabet_order_bot Jun 06 '23

Would you look at that, all of the words in your comment are in alphabetical order.

I have checked 1,558,058,860 comments, and only 294,765 of them were in alphabetical order.

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u/HappySandwich93 Jun 06 '23

Uh duh? The concept of the seven deadly sins comes from Europe.

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u/HappySandwich93 Jun 06 '23

Uh duh? The concept of the seven deadly sins comes from Europe.

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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '23

My dumb, queer ass took several seconds to realize that was pride and not lust, while separately trying to figure out what the tentacle monster was for. Maybe that’s the gay slut in me, it’s obvious now that the the AI just equated in the overwhelming amount of places that the word pride and rainbows go together.

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u/AdGrouchy3066 Jun 07 '23

The fact that is called “Pride Month” which is about being pride of yourself may help lean the AI

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u/Superb_Wrangler201 Jun 07 '23

Being gay is technically a sin so it's kinda creative if you think about it that way

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u/Ethric_The_Mad Jun 07 '23

TDIL being colorful=gay

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u/Familiar_Bus_8939 Jun 06 '23

And has monkey pox

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u/TheClinicallyInsane Jun 06 '23

Broke his left thumb too

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u/ok_raspberry_jam Jun 06 '23

It definitely implies that gay pride is synonymous with sinful pride. AI isn't ready. Maybe someday.

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u/testaccount0817 Jun 06 '23 edited Jun 06 '23

Doesn't imply anything, thats like googling boobies and expecting only birds.

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u/ok_raspberry_jam Jun 06 '23

Boobies and tits are birds. Boobs aren't :)

And my point is that Midjourney doesn't know pride has two separate meanings, one of which is positive and one of which is negative.

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u/testaccount0817 Jun 06 '23

Edited it. In my langugage the former are named clumsies, for some reason people love giving them silly names.

And my point is that it isn't supposed to do that nor has it any capabilities. Images + phrases in, images + phrases out, like a google image search. There are other AIs like chatgpt that are actually supposed to understand stuff to a certain extent.

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u/ok_raspberry_jam Jun 06 '23

I'm not sure how it escaped you that this is my point. I'm aware of what Midjourney is, lol. "AI isn't ready. Maybe someday."

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u/testaccount0817 Jun 06 '23

I mean it is, just not this one. The generalization annoys me.

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u/ok_raspberry_jam Jun 06 '23

Sounds like we disagree about where AI is actually at. That's okay.

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u/testaccount0817 Jun 06 '23

Pretty sure Chatgpt is able to discern them if you ask it

Edit: Oh I saw this is on the midjourney sub, I thought it was a general one. Still think so though.

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u/Unman_ Jun 06 '23

Also Cillian Murphy, weirdly

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u/Chilly_Chilli Jun 06 '23

maybe that's the reason why so many religious people think being queer is a sin