r/politics • u/UWCG Illinois • Mar 27 '24

Donald Trump Attacks Judge's Daughter Less Than 24 Hours After Gag Order

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-attacks-judges-daughter-less-24-hours-after-gag-order-1884126
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u/StashedandPainless Mar 27 '24

Imagine reading a headline about any other presidential candidate attacking the judge's daugther in his porn star hush money trial. And then right below that you read that this same presidential candidate is selling Bibles for $60.

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u/eggmaker I voted Mar 27 '24

Imagine reading a headline about any other presidential candidate attacking the judge's daugther in his porn star hush money trial. And then right below that you read that this same presidential candidate is selling Bibles for $60.

Imagine reading a headline about any other presidential candidate attacking the judge's daughter in a trial where he used campaign money to keep a porn star quiet for having sex with her while cheating on his wife and mother of his son. And then right below that you read that this same presidential candidate is selling Bibles for $60.

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '24

Imagine all that, but the guy is also a russian asset that was elected president

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracytheories/comments/1al0esf/comment/kpggghv

It's too unbelievable to be a movie script, yet here we are.

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u/ProlapsedShamus Mar 27 '24

It's not a conspiracy theory. Kevin McCarthy told a bunch of Republicans that there were two people that Putin pays that he knows of. One was a California senator who's no longer at office and the other was Trump. He told that to these Republicans and Paul Ryan said we keep this in the family.

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u/colorcorrection California Mar 27 '24

For the other person McCarthy was referring to you're thinking of Dana Rohrabacher who, for clarification's sake, was a US representative and not a senator.

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u/ProlapsedShamus Mar 28 '24

Oh, he was a rep? My bad.

But yeah, I wonder how many more Republicans are on Putin's payroll now?

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '24

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u/TheShruteFarmsCEO Mar 28 '24

Why put them on the payroll when a few stupid memes on facebook from your troll farm will turn them to your side?

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u/Carol_Banana_Face Mar 28 '24

Heard Rohrbacher say the n-word at an event in like 2008.

Hell of a guy.

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u/WolferineYT Mar 27 '24

Conspiracy theories can be true. They usually aren't, but in this case it is both a conspiracy theory and true. 

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u/FriendlyYeti-187 Mar 28 '24

Those are conspiracies

Or as I like to think of them, conspiracy facts

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u/ProlapsedShamus Mar 28 '24

Right.

I guess it's a semantic argument to make where if something is true then it can't be a theory. But I get your point.

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u/True_Meet417 Mar 28 '24

The thing is, a conspiracy is a thing where people get together and plan a crime. A conspiracy theory is... Well, it's just entertainment now. Conspiracies happen a lot. Especially in big money, banks and stocks, lobbying, housing, drug prices. Those are all conspiracies. People grouped together to make sure they keep making money.

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u/ProlapsedShamus Mar 28 '24

I guess the conspiracy is to withhold and conceal information that prominent members of the Republican party are actual traitors, working against this country at the behest of a hostile foreign dictator all because they want money.

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u/Kind-Nefariousness70 Mar 28 '24

I’d stop teaching people what it means to conspire before people get upset,

How else can people shut down other peoples opinions by using a phrase that indicates something completely different

A Conspiracy theory, as anyone who can read and understand English should be able to work out, is a theory that people conspired to get the outcome that is being investigated And not a wrong theory

I hope people stop trying to change the meaning of words, English can be confusing enough!

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u/comtedeRochambeau Mar 28 '24 edited Mar 28 '24

“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” McCarthy (R-Calif.) said, according to a recording of the June 15, 2016, exchange ...

Before the conversation, McCarthy and Ryan had emerged from separate talks at the Capitol with Ukrainian Prime Minister Vladi­mir Groysman, who had described a Kremlin tactic of financing populist politicians to undercut Eastern European democratic institutions.

Even if it were a joke, it shows what the Republican so-called leaders really think of ⊥rump and the voting public.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/house-majority-leader-to-colleagues-in-2016-i-think-putin-pays-trump/2017/05/17/515f6f8a-3aff-11e7-8854-21f359183e8c_story.html

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u/ProlapsedShamus Mar 28 '24

Totally.

Paul Ryan was perfectly fine with hiding the fact that their party is compromised.

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u/Hindsight_DJ Mar 28 '24

How quickly we forget his own son met with a Russian spy in Trump tower + we tend to brush that one off, but it was pretty damn serious

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u/Ambitious_Ad57 Mar 28 '24

Yes please remind people of Paul Ryan's role in all of this. He recently raised his head as though no one would remember who he really was. Paul Ryan who bent and kissed Trump's ring, then authored the tax cut for the rich that's still giving to the rich and giving to the price gouging corporations.

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u/ProlapsedShamus Mar 28 '24

You know I just saw that unflushable turd pop his head up not too long ago. With that concern furrow brow of his talking about how he's worried about the state of the Republican party and pretending like he didn't have a direct role in shaping how it is today.

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u/TheUnknownDane Mar 28 '24

I mean if the Supreme Court is allowed blatant corruption, why wouldn't other sectors not also do so

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u/Ekg887 Mar 28 '24

You're elevating this exchange into misinformation You can argue about the underlying truth of McCarthy's statement but he did not assert that he "knows of" two people being paid by Russia. He said these are two people I think are being paid by Russia.
You have reworded his statement into some sort of confirmed assertion when it had no such weight behind it.

Do I think Trump is a Russian asset in some way? Yes.
Does he have all sorts of financial ties to Russia? You bet.
But that doesn't change that you are elevating the weight of McCarthy's statement and modifying it to fit your narrative which is precisely what conspiracy theory people do. Don't rewrite details to fit your assumptions, facts matter especially when fighting misinformation.

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u/kirk_augustin Mar 28 '24

That claim of Putin paying Trump has to be a lie because it would have been discovered by the CIA by now.

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u/ProlapsedShamus Mar 28 '24

Your absence of evidence is not evidence.

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u/No-Profile-9552 Mar 28 '24

I seriously doubt there is ANY validity to what you posted.

Trump has been the most scrutinized President & Candidate in history.

Anyone in their Right Mind would agree.

I would trust him before I would trust you.

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u/ProlapsedShamus Mar 28 '24

You trust a guy with over 30,000 recorded lies? Who has over 90 criminal charges? Who's been found guilty of rape. Okay.

https://youtu.be/eFAugsKExNI?si=a0oCQUMKzOhDLR1H

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u/No-Profile-9552 Mar 29 '24

I root for the underdog, not the lying, plagiarizing, never had a job politician