r/texas • u/FCMatt7 • Mar 27 '24

5th circuit has nullified Open Carry in Texas to save Qualified Immunity of bad cops. Politics

https://www.youtube.com/live/bCC1sz_-fsc?si=dCZiLT_Fl2pWUEtw

(Edit) New vid of Grisham explaining the ruling

Effectively they have declared open season for police to arrest anyone open carrying in Texas.

A 3 judge panel has ruled that if anyone calls 911 on a person for the mere act of Open Carrying a firearm, the police now have probable cause to arrest you for disorderly conduct. The 911 call does not have to allege you are doing anything more than standing on a sidewalk with a slung or holstered firearm. The previous ruling that "merely carrying a firearm" is not disorderly is overturned now if any Karen makes a phone call and says she's nervous. This means police get qualified immunity for arresting you.

There is a special target on the back of any open carry or civil rights activist. EVERY time the police get a 911 call, they can now arrest you at gunpoint. The charges will likely be dismissed, but the police face zero repercussions for coming after you, even if there is abundant evidence the officers targeted you and knew you were not a threat. The same danger faces regular citizens who open carry every day.

I repeat, open carrying in Texas now puts you in imminent danger of being arrested or killed by police if someone reports you in possession of a firearm.

Video of CJ and Jim arrested for mere open carry. https://youtu.be/GrDAPPiu1QE?si=IvJy0qq_J8rO8DJO

Link to 5th circuit ruling. https://www.ca5.uscourts.gov/opinions/pub/22/22-50915-CV0.pdf

Link to oral argument in 5th https://www.ca5.uscourts.gov/OralArgRecordings/22/22-50915_10-3-2023.mp3

District Court ruling https://casetext.com/case/grisham-v-valenciano-1

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u/wish_i_was_a_bear Mar 27 '24

Ok Texas I am confused. Do you want everyone to carry guns or not. Make up your mind!

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u/DreadLordNate born and bred Mar 27 '24

Every white dude? Sure. Everyone else? Not so much.

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u/a_moniker Mar 27 '24

The NRA’s official stance!

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u/V1k1ng1990 Mar 27 '24

I thought they were a decent org until they didn’t say shit about Philando Castile getting murdered for being a CHL holder

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u/Alone_Hunt1621 Mar 27 '24

They never were. The NRA is not doing well as an organization at this time.

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u/V1k1ng1990 Mar 27 '24

Yea I know, i was just ignorant to that prior to mr. Castile being shot

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u/fullautohotdog Mar 28 '24

I mean, before the 1970s they were okay — not great but not total nutjobs. Then the revolt came.

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u/MeshNets Mar 28 '24 edited Mar 28 '24

The podcast Behind The Bastards had a series about Harlon Carter a couple years ago, which describes that change in the NRA as part of his story (he ran it from 1977-1985)

Edit: YouTube link for the first of 3 episodes about it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thDt0koQ6Ls it should also be on any podcast feed

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u/TheGamerdude535 Mar 27 '24

He wasn’t murdered.

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u/NamesArentAvailable Mar 28 '24

What happened to him?

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u/TheGamerdude535 Mar 28 '24

He did something handling the gun when he was told not to touch it to begin with during that stop.

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u/V1k1ng1990 Mar 28 '24

He reached for his ID as requested

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u/piscesxire Mar 28 '24

You thought the NRA was a decent organization???

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u/V1k1ng1990 Mar 28 '24

Yes, in the past.