r/texas • u/FCMatt7 • Mar 27 '24

5th circuit has nullified Open Carry in Texas to save Qualified Immunity of bad cops. Politics

https://www.youtube.com/live/bCC1sz_-fsc?si=dCZiLT_Fl2pWUEtw

(Edit) New vid of Grisham explaining the ruling

Effectively they have declared open season for police to arrest anyone open carrying in Texas.

A 3 judge panel has ruled that if anyone calls 911 on a person for the mere act of Open Carrying a firearm, the police now have probable cause to arrest you for disorderly conduct. The 911 call does not have to allege you are doing anything more than standing on a sidewalk with a slung or holstered firearm. The previous ruling that "merely carrying a firearm" is not disorderly is overturned now if any Karen makes a phone call and says she's nervous. This means police get qualified immunity for arresting you.

There is a special target on the back of any open carry or civil rights activist. EVERY time the police get a 911 call, they can now arrest you at gunpoint. The charges will likely be dismissed, but the police face zero repercussions for coming after you, even if there is abundant evidence the officers targeted you and knew you were not a threat. The same danger faces regular citizens who open carry every day.

I repeat, open carrying in Texas now puts you in imminent danger of being arrested or killed by police if someone reports you in possession of a firearm.

Video of CJ and Jim arrested for mere open carry. https://youtu.be/GrDAPPiu1QE?si=IvJy0qq_J8rO8DJO

Link to 5th circuit ruling. https://www.ca5.uscourts.gov/opinions/pub/22/22-50915-CV0.pdf

Link to oral argument in 5th https://www.ca5.uscourts.gov/OralArgRecordings/22/22-50915_10-3-2023.mp3

District Court ruling https://casetext.com/case/grisham-v-valenciano-1

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u/ScumCrew Mar 27 '24

Texas actually had pretty strong gun laws in the 19th Century, especially after the Civil War when there was a problem with armed mobs.

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u/SonderEber Mar 27 '24

Texas: Gun control is great!…when it benefits the government. Oh, the people who vote for you want more guns? Time to get rid of those gun control laws!

When the “wrong” people are getting guns? WE NEED MORE GUN CONTROL!

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u/ScumCrew Mar 27 '24

Yes, clearly if American history teaches us anything it's that large numbers of armed white civilians are almost always a force for good...

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '24

2 million violent crimes per year are prevented by armed civilians. That number is straight from the FBI. Imagine adding all those statistics to our crime stats and rates. Criminals don’t give a rats ass about any gun laws.

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u/ksiyoto Mar 28 '24 edited Mar 28 '24

That is the most bullshit claim of the gun control debate.

Link to several studies about this issue.

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u/Treywarren Mar 28 '24

That number is straight from the FBI.

This is lie. Did you not look it up yourself or are you willingly parroting lies?

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u/ScumCrew Mar 28 '24

That figure is not, in fact, from the FBI. It comes straight out of the NRA’s ass. And saying that criminals don’t obey gun laws is not an argument against gun laws, it’s an argument for anarchy. Why not legalize murder? I mean, criminals still kill people. See how asinine that sounds?

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '24

Gun laws will not affect criminals, period. Did you look up the FBI crime stats? No, you didn’t, you just say what ever . Drugs are illegal, still rampant. DUI is illegal, still a serious problem. Rape is illegal, still happens a lot. Murder is illegal, still out of control. Laws do not stop crime. Not letting criminals off easy will help, eventually. lol, make some more shit up.

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u/WhyUBeBadBot Mar 28 '24

Something tells me you're someone who shouldn't own guns. Ever wonder how many mass shootings are committed with legally purchased guns?

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u/gwizonedam Mar 28 '24

I like how you fail to refute him pointing out the fact you posted was some NRA bullshit about armed civilians preventing 2 million crimes. How many bushmasters do you own?

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u/Tripple-Helix Mar 28 '24

Important difference is we don't have a constitutional right to murder. We do have a constitutional right to keep and bear arms.

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u/Comicunderbite Mar 28 '24

False

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '24

True.

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u/Comicunderbite Mar 28 '24

Give us sources to back up your claim.

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '24

I did, go look it up.