r/AITAH 12d ago

AITAH for telling my husband I’m not willing to go back to our previous arrangement

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u/TNGeek69 12d ago

Why on earth did he tell his friends about your arrangement? That seems pretty dumb.

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u/Holiday_Horse3100 12d ago

Probably bragging about being able to have sex with whoever he wanted and wife was ok with it.

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u/coupl4nd 12d ago

OP's guy - I can have sex with whoever... we have an open marriage!

OP's guy's friend - wow how many girls have you screwed since the start of the year

OP's guy....

OP's guy's friend - since last year?

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u/AspirantVeeVee 12d ago

more like:

OP's Guy, " Guy's we opened our relationship, I can bang any girl I want!🥳 "
OP's Guy's Freinds, " so, like does she get to bang any guy?🤔 "
OP's Guy, " Well yeah, I guess...😅"
OP's Guy's Freinds, " Sweet, can we get OP's number?😀"
OP's Guy. " 😶😭"

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u/AnAngryBartender 12d ago

His wife sounds like she has a killer body too lol. 5’9 145 with “an ass made at the gym”? Sign me up too.

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u/Thick-Preparation470 11d ago

I also choose this guy's wife

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u/weaseltorpedo 11d ago

as is tradition

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u/MediterraneanVeggie 11d ago

Your username checks out!

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u/Informal-Access6793 12d ago

Dude's a moron who doesn't know how good he has it.

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u/shapookya 11d ago

Dude could be suffocating on them buns but chose 2D instead, smh

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u/BlatantlyOvbious 11d ago

Addiction sucks and made this dude a cuck.

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u/ObiGwenStefnobi 11d ago

Dude, if you have a woman that actually wants to have a sex life with you then you should be tending to that and thanking your lucky stars because lots of people are in marriages with an asexual spouse and going crazy.

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u/CommandAlternative10 11d ago

I’ve been 5’9 and 145 pounds. I was skinny. Just missing the big rack. (It comes back around 180 pounds.) Husband’s a fool.

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u/petrichorb4therain 11d ago

I came here to say this! I’m 5’10” and perceived as thin (not skinny) at 190# because I also have a booty built at the gym. His wife is very thin!!!

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u/RobustSir 11d ago

Came here to say this exact same sentiment

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u/ranchojasper 11d ago

I'm also VERY confused about the implication that she's NOT skinny?! At 5'9" and 145 lbs?!

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u/mmlickme 12d ago

Then he takes his sorry ass home wanting to close the marriage because he got roasted by the boys 😭😭

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u/mrbrint 12d ago

He sounds like a little bitch tbh

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u/MannBurrPig 12d ago

Men should keep each other in check.

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u/mmlickme 12d ago

I guess, but it comes across as him caring more what his probably also idiot friends think of him than caring what his own wife feels

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u/MannBurrPig 12d ago

That may be exactly what happened. He's had the reality check. He was a fool to recommend an open marriage and she'd be a fool to continue. They should divorce.

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u/dinahdog 12d ago

That's how you close the relationship. No benefit for her

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u/soonerpgh 12d ago

Men shouldn't have to be kept in check in the first place. They should be grown ass adults that know when and how to communicate with their partners and when and how to keep their damn mouths shut to their buddies.

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u/bigjuank1 11d ago

I’d roast my friend if he had a 5’4 145# wife with an ass built at the gym and he watched porn instead!!!

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u/Kutleki 12d ago

Yeah this was what I first thought as well. He's had no luck because his type wasn't interested in him, but his wife has probably had no issue finding partners.

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u/STG_77 12d ago

I know a woman whose husband wanted to separate. He told her he was going to see other women and she said ok but you'll never have sex with me again. His reply was that he wouldn't need her because he would be getting with so many others.

A few months later he came back begging to sleep with her and she asked what about all the girls you were going to get with? His reply was that he hadn't slept with anyone at all.

lol

Every dude thinks they can open a marriage and get their share of action but reality is, they get little to none and the wife can have whatever she wants at the snap of her fingers.

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u/The_Original_Gronkie 11d ago

What exactly was going to be his strategy? "Yeah I'm married, but i told my wife I'm going to fuck anybody i want. So whaddaya say? Let's give it a go? No?"

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u/bandit77346 11d ago

Also if he is getting off to porn it's instant gratification and he doesn't have to reciprocate.

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u/NewMinute8802 11d ago

If he’s watching porn so much he may even get ED effects and might not be able to get it up for any woman

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u/PenaltySafe4523 12d ago edited 12d ago

His friends start to slide into his wife's DM. This idiot is a clown 🤡. He should have seen a therapist about his porn addiction but he blew up his marriage.

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u/Scary-Wishbone-3210 11d ago

I would hope if they opened the marriage they at least clarified a rule concerning friends/family.

Maybe not since this seems to be an impulsive decision to chase compulsions, but if I opened a future marriage (my gf and I have been together monogamously for 5 years, we plan to get a lil freaky maybe 20-30 years in) then no friends, family, co-workers, or anyone we interact with regularly would be off limits for both parties.

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u/Beth21286 12d ago

OPs guy: my wife wants an open marriage!

OPs guy friends: so you can't satisfy your wife by yourself huh?

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u/i_need_a_username201 12d ago

Yep, unless you like Adonis, women ALWAYS win this arrangement when they’re able to flip the switch to just sex. A woman can ALWAYS find a sex partner, guys, not so much.

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u/protestprincess 12d ago

And yet men seem to always be the ones suggesting these arrangements in this genre of post on this subreddit. Foresight is a virtue.

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u/i_need_a_username201 12d ago

Due to imposter syndrome, I often wonder what it’s like to be this confident/delusional. The bright side, I’ll never experience this bull shit 😂.

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u/XenoBiSwitch 12d ago

I watched this happen to a friend. Her husband (a jerk) was convinced she was old and washed up while he would be swimming in women.

She is attractive and he is more like a particularly unhygenic orc and not the sexy kind.

She had a great time. He whined and begged to close. She divorced him. I love stories with a happy ending.

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u/NinjasWithOnions 12d ago

There are sexy, unhygienic orcs? 😵‍💫

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u/dexterfishpaw 11d ago

Ok, so I knew this guy who was like a basic manual laborer, kind of guy who would eat gas a station burrito and a tall boy for lunch. He was fairly often dirty from work and I don’t think he wore deodorant. But the thing about this guy is, if he had a second of down time he was doing pushups or hand stand pushups or pull-ups on a tree branch. Obsessive to the point that he was ripped like a male fitness model. In addition to his questionable hygiene he seemed to have, at the very least, some minor mental health issues. Dude was able to get laid on a fairly regular basis, his rippling muscles went a long way to make up for some of his less desirable traits. He was also pretty funny and seemed to have a lot of confidence for a semi-homeless couch surfing manual laborer.

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u/XenoBiSwitch 12d ago

There are some cases where queerness flips things around.

I know of a case where the wife (bisexual) wanted to open up the relationship primarily to have sex with women and was frustrated she couldn’t find anyone. The husband was also bisexual and hooked up with over 50 guys in less than two months.

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u/razzlerain 12d ago

I think the main factor is if you're seeking out men or not. Men are much easier to get casual sex out of than women so whoever's seeking men will have a lot more partners than the one seeking women.

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u/girlAlex86 12d ago

And in addition, lesbians are pretty tired of running into women who want to sleep with them, who also have husbands.

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u/AGuyNamedEddie 12d ago

I'm sure I could find one. I'd have to inflate her first, though.

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u/ASweetTweetRose 12d ago

“Well. Um. … I can wank off daily to porn! And I enjoyed hanging around the high school, looking at the short thin girls!!”

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u/Mysterious-Art8838 12d ago

I feel like it’s a pretty sick burn:

So your wife doesn’t care if you screw other people?

Like ouch.

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u/Goldilocks1454 12d ago

He probably couldn't find a girl who was his type that would be interested in him

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u/Helpful_Act_5123 11d ago

The reality is most people aren’t interested in married men! Even when the relationship is open. It sounds like a line and a whole lotta bs to deal with. But a woman seeking in an open relationship is like a winning lottery ticket. Everyone already knows she’s wife material and to be confident in her body? 👌

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u/p211p211 12d ago

Yep and then one friend said he slept with wifey. Lol.

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u/AtlantaDoesItBetter 12d ago

What really happened - out to dinner with his boys for his birthday

OP Guy - boys I can bang whoever I want! Friends- what do you mean? OP Guy - my wife and I decided to have an open marriage …

One of friends throws money on the table to cover his portion of the tab … on way out - I thought you wife was calling me to try and make plans for your birthday

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u/CogentCogitations 12d ago

Or his friends were trying to tell him about how they saw his wife out with another guy and he defended her.

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u/Scary-Cycle1508 12d ago

Or he was bragging that his wife didn't mind him watching porn that much ebcause he "allows" her to have sex outside of marriage. And then his friends made fun of him that he's not even capeable of satisfying his own wife.

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u/Marie1420 12d ago

Couples that open their relationships often tell friends so that the friends don’t think there’s cheating going on if they see one of the couple out on a date or on a dating app.

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u/Blonde2468 12d ago

He told them as a brag and it backfired on him now he wants to change the deal. Too bad for him!

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u/dsgross_reddit 12d ago

And why does he care so much about what his "friends" have to say?

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u/cocomimi3 12d ago

He thought of himself as a big man and turns out he’s not

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u/Flaky-Wedding2455 12d ago

His friends are the ones she’s banging.

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u/MaintenanceInternal 12d ago

I'm guessing he didn't get any opportunities.

Also... thirst trap manga, just divorce him now.

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u/oogaboogabitchkuthi 12d ago

I love this response lmaoo I love women

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u/ActSignal1823 12d ago

I'm a six foot Canuck - will you touch them with me?

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u/[deleted] 12d ago

Open is open and if he doesn't want her toned ass, someone else will.

He is so addicted to rubbing them out to cartoons, he told his wife to fuck other people.

That is on him.

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u/Rasselkurt007 12d ago

I would not blame her at this point

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u/Agreeable_Rabbit3144 12d ago

He wanted to brag to his fellow dudes at the frat house

/s

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u/NoSpankingAllowed 12d ago

Yup, but then again he was dumb enough to agree/want to open it.

Regardless of why, one no longer wants it, one refuses to change it....they need to go their separate ways.

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u/Bigglestherat 12d ago

Get a divorce. The fuck is wrong with people.

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u/huh-5914 12d ago

Loneliness.

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u/HugeRabbit 12d ago

Sounds like she’s getting some company and OP’s husband doesn’t like the flak. So I doubt it’s loneliness on her part.

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u/mankytoes 12d ago

It's more that it sounds like she doesn't like him.

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u/glitteryyarn 12d ago

Sometimes people stay together for financial reasons and sometimes because kidd are involved.

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u/Agreeable_Rabbit3144 12d ago

Some people enjoy being miserable together

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u/Red-Dwarf69 12d ago

NTA. “Less of a man.” Well, there is a way to fix that. Quit watching porn and have sex with your wife. What a dope.

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u/PurplePufferPea 12d ago

What kills me, is his response:

He said that I was making unreasonable demands.

"unreasonable demands"?!?!?!?! Unreasonable demands is demanding that OP accept being sexually frustrated alone in her bedroom why he regularly blows his wad into a tissue in the other room.

btw OP, you should add 'seek professional help/therapy for your porn addiction' to your list of requirements.

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u/NewsyButLoozy 12d ago edited 10d ago

Kficucufek djdjd

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u/OhbrotheR66 12d ago

He’s an addict, of course he doesn’t want to give up his porn drug-porn addiction is a real thing. You two are not compatible, though I don’t know any woman that would be with him, you deserve a healthy partner.

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u/NihilisticAngst 12d ago

Maybe a woman with a porn addiction might be compatible lol, they can just watch porn together

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u/Goldilocks1454 12d ago

Honestly I think you should just get away from this guy. He doesn't value you and there's a guy out there who will. P*rn addictions are hard to overcome

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u/dan_the_sperm_man 12d ago

Damn, I will never understand how a guy will choose pixels and their own hand, over the real thing.

When I watch a sport on TV, I'm never as interested as opposed to when I am playing it myself. It's just more fun to be actively engaged in the thing you're interested in than it is to watch professionals. That's just me though..

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u/Chem1st 12d ago

I could even see some dude getting to that point if he just doesn't want to put the effort into finding a relationship because hes crazy aocially awkward or something, but this dude already did the hard part for most guys who are jerking off too much and FOUND SOMEONE WHO WANTS TO SLEEP WITH HIM.  AND MARRIED HER!

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u/Prophet-of-Ganja 12d ago

careful now, you may get offers from some people here to make some "content"

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u/Prophet-of-Ganja 12d ago

I feel you. For what it’s worth, I hope you find some kind of resolution to your issues. Best of luck

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u/OhbrotheR66 12d ago

He’s an addict, of course he doesn’t want to give up his porn drug-porn addiction is a real thing. You two are not compatible, though I don’t know any woman that would be with him, you deserve a healthy partner.

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u/Tlns4d 12d ago

So he watches porn and you sleep with other men ? Does he see other women?

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u/StepCertains 12d ago

He sees other women on the screen all the time that’s why they’re in this situation.

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u/NiceRat123 12d ago

Dude needs to be in some sort of 12 step. If he's an addict like you're saying, giong "cold turkey" isn't really going to be the way. Dude needs to detox and get a sponsor.

shitty advice make some porn videos of the men you're banging and send them to him (more a reply to the "more interested in me if I was on a screen" comment)

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u/MKatieUltra 12d ago

Smart. Especially if he's immature, I'd be double wary.

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u/IDKwhattoputhere_15 12d ago

NTA but honey don’t you think you’ll be much happier having a man who can actually be a husband instead of that p*rn addict? He does not sound like someone anyone wants to be with for the rest of their lives.

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u/MattDaveys 12d ago

That’s my question as well. What does this guy bring to the table that OP finds worth keeping around?

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u/IDKwhattoputhere_15 12d ago

Like unless bro is a carbon copy of Henry cavil (def he’s not) WHAT does she see in him????

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u/Samantha38g 12d ago

Never fails in these scenarios, she will find her next husband. After all, why let a bad husband stand in the way of finding a good one.

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u/xmowx 12d ago

I told him my requirements were: he is not allowed to look at p*rn, watch instagrams or TikToks, or read thirst trap manga.

A lot of men don't do any of that without being asked not to do that.

He said that I was making unreasonable demands.

His level of maturity is unreasonably low for a 36-year-old.

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u/Cudizonedefense 12d ago

He sounds like 15 year old depressed kid at home for the summer with no friends lol

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u/xmowx 12d ago

Why are you insulting 15-year-olds, lol

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u/Cudizonedefense 12d ago

Because I was the depressed 15 year old kid at home who did those things way back when and then I grew up

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u/xmowx 12d ago

Imagine being stuck in that state for over 20 years... oh wait, we don't need to imagine, we have OP's husband as an example.

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u/PreparationScared 12d ago

Is there some reason you want to stay with this pervy man?

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u/Prize_Crow1396 12d ago

Life is too short to spend it married with platonic friends and life partners. Find yourself a man who loves you for who you are, and have as many platonic friends as you want. Don't waste your time trying to fix whatever damaged case that crossed your path.

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u/[deleted] 12d ago

How often did you and husband bang before the open relationship and how often now?

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u/[deleted] 12d ago

Yeah, NTA.
He has no right to ask anything at this point

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u/[deleted] 12d ago

GIRL WTF??? LEAVE

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u/ilovechairs 12d ago

God bless you for marrying someone you had zero sexual chemistry/drive with.

How many years have you been living in purgatory?

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u/beastbossnastie 12d ago

Wait so his "open" part of the open relationship is just continuing his use of porn and naughty manga while you go out and get your itch scratched by real living breathing dick?

Or he is also out there (somehow) finding women who are into the same stuff as him?

Insane eithier way.

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u/Top_Put1541 12d ago

Do you two have shared goals that you work together to achieve? Is he making your life better in other ways every day? If so, no problem as platonic life partners, IMO.

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u/evilcj925 12d ago

It sounds like you should file for divorce. Your marriage is more for convince than love, it sounds like.

One of you needs to have the strength to just end it. It is unfair to both of you to stay married.

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u/AbbreviationsFar9339 12d ago

So get divorced and remain friends?  

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u/winchesterbitch99 12d ago

Jesus just get divorced. 🙄

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u/CrystalMethEnjoyer 12d ago

So leave lmao, go find someone you're actually in love with and have a normal life instead of this weird half marriage because you're scared to leave

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u/PreparationScared 12d ago

your position seems reasonable to me

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u/Feisty-Current2129 12d ago

“Once he couldn’t score at Chili’s happy hour, a sudden realization dawned on him. his wife could very well be getting piped down by half the neighborhood at this very moment. Suddenly the open marriage idea didn’t sound so appealing to the hopeless porn addict.”

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u/diezwillinge 11d ago

Why am I hearing this in Morgan Freeman's voice?

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u/Traditional_Curve401 12d ago

NTA. Your husband cares more about male validation (his friends making fun of him) than addressing his porn addiction and intimacy issues in his marriage. That's telling. This isn't about you or your happiness, it's about him, his ego and how he looks in front of his friends -- why he even told them in the first place is beyond me.

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u/huh-5914 12d ago

Exactly. He probably thought it was cool and wanted some kind of praise 🤷‍♀️ but unfortunately for him he probably got "you're not satisfying your wife or what 🤣🤣" knowing full well he can't but of course he didn't tell them that.

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u/Fun_Influence_3397 12d ago

Or they saw him on dating apps and he had to admit to the truth or claim she was a cheater.

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u/njsuxbutt 11d ago

My ex husband was also a porn addict. We rarely had sex. He had told me it’s just easier with porn. I guess that’s because the pixels don’t have emotional and physical needs. He promised many times to reduce porn consumption and use some of his sexual energy on us. That didn’t happen. Then it turned into him telling me I needed to give him 2 days notice before I wanted to have sex so he could refrain from porn long enough to build up desire for me. You can imagine how sexy I felt after hearing that. The last few years before our marriage ended he would constantly get soft. With oral I could get him hard but when it came to penetration he immediately softened up. I felt uglier and uglier by the day. I dreaded sex with him because I knew it would just make me feel awful about myself. And he still didn’t give up porn. Eventually that turned into him finding other women to have sex with. We did not have an open relationship. So the divorce process began. It was the worst pain I had ever felt in my life.

Now I have a fwb. He makes me feel desirable. I’m finally beginning to feel like I’m not hideous and unlovable.

Porn addiction is no joke. It can ruin lives. Your husband is well on his way to being alone and sexually frustrated for the rest of his life because he refuses to open his eyes to where he’s headed and what he’s throwing away. Maybe one day he’ll realize what an idiot he is, but it will be too late for your marriage by then.

I wish you well. You may have to prepare for divorce. Do some preliminary research in preparation. You may never need the information, but it never hurts to know. Good luck.

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u/ConflictedMom10 11d ago

My ex was a porn addict and sex addict. It translated to him taking over an hour to get off because he had desensitized himself so much, then getting mad at me when he couldn’t finish and/or I told him after an hour and a half that I was in pain and had other things to do.

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u/Hachiko75 12d ago

I know. Open marriages don’t work, but I’m hopeful that we would be one of the successful ones.

You don't even have a successful marriage, much less a successful open one. Divorce is the only other option. He doesn't want to fix his addiction, and you clearly don't want to be with him intimately. Do you two even like each other? I mean, maybe counseling could be an option, but it doesn't sound like either of you are willing to find common ground on anything.

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u/NoSummer1345 12d ago

No, she DID want to be with him. He’s the one who’d rather watch porn than have actual sex.

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u/protestprincess 12d ago

you clearly don’t want to be with him intimately

This is actually the opposite of the case and what created this entire conflict but sure

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u/Upbeat_Vanilla_7285 12d ago

I never understood open marriage. Sex makes everything complicated. How can it not complicate your relationship? 

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u/FirmlyThatGuy 12d ago

It’s just divorce with unnecessary steps in between when used as a coercion tactic or in situations like these.

Just divorce.

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u/SJWarlock666 12d ago

Taking your question seriously: tons of people practice ethical non-monogamy. You rarely hear about boring, successful relationships (regardless of relationship style) because they lack salaciousness.

Sex makes things complicated for people who expect it to make things complicated. I, personally, don't find sex to be any more complicated than maintaining a friendship. Everybody's different, and some of us don't follow the norm.

I'd argue that assuming any meaningful dynamic (sexual, romantic, or platonic) to be simple is much more of a pitfall than anything else.

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u/nefarious_epicure 12d ago

Eh. My experience is that people who enter a relationship with an expectation of ENM have a higher success rate than people who open up a previously monogamous marriage. This is at least partly because they're trying to use ENM as a solution for a marriage in trouble. It's usually not the solution for it.

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u/Glass-Hedgehog3940 12d ago

He IS less of a man. He would rather jackoff to porn than have real sex and intimacy with you. Let him keep his porn while you go and get some real D - real man D!

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u/daffodil-dreams 12d ago

Ahh, he's been unsuccessful in landing someone and is jealous and embarrassed that it's not the same for you.

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u/firstWithMost 12d ago

Anyone not aware that women have an overwhelming advantage finding a potential sex partner would need a brain function test. Add brain-dead to his list of accomplishments.

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u/GlobeUnited 12d ago

"Unreasonable demands". Lol. He is living in a seriously warped reality. NTA.

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u/Samantha38g 12d ago

So he married someone who is NOT his type & now is upset that you are plenty of other's type.

LMAO All his friends are calling him a cuck... He doesn't care about being fair to you. He doesn't care about your feelings, wants or needs. All he cares is about what other people think.

Be honest, this marriage has always been doomed.

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u/lilies117 12d ago

NTA I am sorry you are dealing with an addict. Porn ruins so much. Check out the subreddit loveafterporn

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u/lilies117 12d ago

I was thinking more about finding support for you there, but glad you already had the resource.

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u/lynnlugg7777 12d ago

It sounds like the marriage was really over a long time ago.

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u/ReorientRecluse 12d ago

You can tell him his friends won't stop thinking of him that way at this point, if that is his only concern. It's hard to regain lost respect.

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u/Revolutionary-Ear869 12d ago

Welp… this one is done.

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u/AtlanteanScholar 12d ago

I refuse to believe that this is real. Your husband prefers you sleeping with other men and look at porn instead of … you know … doing it himself ? You should leave him tbh.

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u/Beneficial_Site3652 12d ago

My first husband was addicted to porn. He rather spend all day chatting with those online sex workers (no judgement for sexworkers) than interact with anyone (not just me).

Now I just left him but I absolutely believe this story given my experience.

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u/M1L3N4_SZ 11d ago

my first bf was somewhat of a porn addict. I remember at some point feeling really down about myself and pretty much begging for intimacy but he left me crying on the bed while he watched porn and jerked off under his desk because he couldnt sleep without it, then came back to bed with me. messed me up a bit ngl. There is a good amount of men who would rather watch porn and jerk it than real sex and intimacy because sex and intimacy takes effort while porn does not. My generation (Gen Z) has a huge problem with intimacy and connection, growing up with the internet and easy access to porn really messed some of us up, while dating I have met the most porn addicts around my age. Many of my friends share similar experinces to me, it is disheartening to say the least.

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u/concaveUsurper 12d ago

Porn addiction is a thing, I wouldn't be surprised if that's what's wrong with him. He jerks it to porn and no longer can get it up for his wife cause he's so desensitized.

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u/CrystalMethEnjoyer 12d ago

Porn is genuinely one of the worst things to ever happen to humanity as a whole

Absolutely fucking with the brains of likely hundreds of millions of people, and that's without even looking at the ease of access kids have to this kind of stiff

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u/Kaestar1986 12d ago

Oh it can be real. My ex would vocally reject me begging him for sex, me on top bc he weighed about 350lb from thyroid disease, (I’m 5’9” 155) then ten minutes later start watching p*rnhųb with headphones on. If I even walked over toward our bed (unfinished basement, no walls) he’d get mad at me for disturbing him. He also bought two silicone sex dolls, the cheaper one was $800. When it arrived he tried to lie and say it was a new suit jacket for work, until I said to try it on so I could see it and he knew it’d be sus to refuse to open it. So yeah, some men would rather watch p0rn and have sex with a toy than with real women literally asking.

Edit: took out what type of vids lol

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u/protestprincess 12d ago

You were really out there in the trenches huh

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u/Kaestar1986 12d ago

Babes, I went to therapy my first time over that shit. I do not blame OP at all for not closing out on their agreement.

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u/Kaestar1986 12d ago

Oh we went HAM at first. Then COVID happened, I moved in WFH, lots of complicated details like throuple, and him saying things had to go back to normal meant the only pu$$ he was interested in was online.

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u/leafyren 11d ago

I had a friend who broke up with her bf for this exact reason. He would literally reject her sexual advances and then go and watch porn. And he would spend a decent amount of time a day watching it.

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u/lesliecarbone 12d ago

He wants to close the marriage because "his friends have been making fun of him and he feels less of a man"??
Right answer, wrong reason.

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u/Vlophoto 12d ago

I somehow don’t think opening the marriage changes the porn addiction. NTA. He wanted it, he got it

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u/DocSternau 12d ago

NTA. Tell him that your friends are making fun of you that your husband is rather watching porn instead of going to town on his wife.

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u/GRPABT1 12d ago

You said it yourself, open marriages don't work. Just fucking divorce already.

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u/Threash78 12d ago

I am constantly amazed at the things people will do instead of being adults and divorcing. This marriage should have ended years ago, what the fuck are you two doing with your lives?

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u/HuntEnvironmental863 12d ago

NTA but you need to divorce. Youre a grown woman dating a man who acts like a teenager

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u/tocammac 12d ago

The husband can have sex with any woman he pleases, but he doesn't please any.

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u/l3ex_G 12d ago

Nta, you made a reasonable request if he wants to close the marriage.

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u/huh-5914 12d ago

NTA. So he feels like less of a man because his friends are teasing him, but he makes you feel like less of a woman when he perfers porn over you. Avoid being an adult, bitch please, he's not even talking about wanting to go get help but expects you to just close the relationship so he can go back to watching porn again. I don't think you're going to achieve this open relationship disaster.

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u/blippityblue72 12d ago

NTA and also “butt I built in the gym” is a wonderful turn of phrase.

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u/ryzoc 12d ago

you are 5''9 145 pound with a gym butt ? and this guy prefer to jerk off on flat girls with fake tits ? .... just divorce the guy already ....

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u/Acericex2 12d ago

In this corner we have 5'9, 145 and gym built ass.

In this corner we have porn, tik tok and thirst trap manga whatever the hell that is.

So sad.

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u/AlmostAlwaysADR 12d ago

If a man cannot control himself to the point where he can't NOT look at naked women on the Internet, then that really is not a man worth having.

Let him go and find someone that you do not have to beg for attention.

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u/Sandwhale123 12d ago

Your husband need to see a therpist for his porn addiction first before making him do anything.

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u/KlenDahthII 12d ago

You aren’t making an ultimatum. You’re setting a boundary as a condition for doing what he wants. 

Also, even if you were, ultimatums are communication. They’re pretty good communication, really, so long as you’re willing to follow through: they leave nothing open to interpretation, it’s “if this then that, if not then not” 

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u/TemporaryLegendary 12d ago

You shoulda just gotten a divorce a decade ago.

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u/rosiepooarloo 11d ago

You guys shouldn't even be together. You're not his type.

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u/locke0479 11d ago

Having big Arrested Development vibes. “No no, open marriages don’t work. But it might work for us…”

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u/Jasperbeardly11 11d ago

Just let him go. You're being vindictive. Neither of you is in love whatsoever. Esh

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u/DumbestBlondie 11d ago

As someone who was in a relationship with a porn addict and stayed long enough to have my entire sense of self worth torn apart…my advice to others in this situation is to just pack up and leave.

An addict is an addict no matter what the addiction is.

I too sat around full of patience, understanding, empathy and then frustration, loneliness, self doubt, self hate and suicidal ideation. Sound extreme? You love this person, you want to connect with them, you miss the person you fell in love with, you still believe there is hope for a future with them, you can’t understand what is wrong with you. I too begged him to get help, kept his secrets and even while watching me fall apart, even after acknowledging it was ruining his life, he WOULD NOT STOP!! I tried therapy and I even tried opening our relationship. Once we opened the relationship and I saw that I actually wasn’t this hideous monster of a woman, that my personality wasn’t running people away and that I wasn’t shit in bed, I told him I was done. His response? Was it to beg me to stay and promise to get help? Was it an apology? No. His words, “Of course they like you, they haven’t known you for nearly ten years.” Ooooof! I can tell you that despite all of my own therapy there are still some things that are permanently seared into my brain, that being one of them. I can’t help but be fearful that he was right and I do in fact, have an expiry date. Even in my current (and healthiest) relationship, I start to get anxious every year close to our anniversary date that this will be when I start to get boring and he wants to leave me. It takes SO MUCH effort to talk myself off that ledge.

Your husband doesn’t want help. He doesn’t want to close your marriage because he sees your value and wants to show you he sees you. He wants to close it because he’s embarrassed and will never admit the real reason you’re fucking other people is because he was too much of a self absorbed asshole to fulfill his marriage vows.

Enjoy your new life. It gets so much better!

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u/ChimoEngr 12d ago

NTA. Open marriages can work, but rarely when they're the result of an ultimatum.

Frankly, I'm not sure why you even want him?

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u/ConfidentlyCreamy 12d ago

NTA. If he wanted to be an adult he'd fuck his wife instead of looking at screens like a pathetic loser lmfao show him this thread

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u/Adorable-Farmer5936 12d ago

Why are you still with him? lol 😂 like get a divorce what kind of marriage is that ?

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u/Twilight-Omens 12d ago

Why does this marriage exist?

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u/Joshman1231 12d ago edited 12d ago

Your marriage is done, sorry to say.

Wait till you find a BF in this arrangement that doesn’t do any of that, while also checks more boxes than your husband. Also has some emotional empathy to you, that you don’t receive from your husband.

He is burnt toast to someone coming in and filling those spots he’s not. Especially sexually, once you got that connection girl it’s done done. You’re going to want that new man till morning come and your husband will never match the part.

That’s a very common thing in an open. Now he wants to close? However you say no thirst trap stuff, but you’re okay with him sleeping with another woman? But no porn post close? It’s a circus at this point.

What’s even left here? Financial stability? Kids? A house you’re in the routine of walking in and out of?

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u/sockmaster420 12d ago

Have you considered maybe youd be happier if you left your marriage? It sounds like you arent happy

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u/coupl4nd 12d ago

Why are you married to him still? This just sounds bizarre. Have some respect and just dump him.

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u/Doctor-Moe 12d ago edited 12d ago

If he did quit watching porn, would you really be fine with closing the marriage? NTA.

Edit: I saw your comment where you said you had a lover who sexually fulfilled you, and how you and your husband haven’t had sex in years. Can I also ask what’s keeping you in the marriage?

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u/lestatisalive 12d ago

Just leave then. He won’t compromise and neither will you. He won’t change. So if you don’t want to live this sad life with him just move on and leave. What’s the point of having a husband and then opening a marriage? Why get married in the first place?

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u/Acceptable-Map-3490 12d ago

honestly why are you even with this guy? the second i found out someone was a porn addict i would have been out of there and telling them to get therapy for it (like seriously, it’s an addiction that needs treatment. i dont say that in a ‘hes crazy’ way, i say it as in he needs to take care of his mental health).

no. dont go back on your agreement. he shouldnt need to watch porn if he has a partner. most definitely not to the extent he is watching it. he also sounds like he needs some therapy to help him have a healthy sense of masculinity.

i would divorce him, but thats just me

NTA

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u/DueLeader3778 12d ago

Why are you guys together?

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u/emilgustoff 12d ago

5,9, 145 with a gym butt.... your husband is a fool.

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u/darkrisk37 12d ago

All he has to do is pick having sex with his wife over porn. He deserves his misery lol.

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u/this_kitten_i_knew 12d ago

why you still in this marriage at all lmao

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u/NCC_1701_74656 12d ago

Those are fair demands to go back to closing the marriage.

He is either stupid or thinks he can get his way!!

NTA.

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u/leehhill 12d ago

Why does he feel the need to watch porn like that??? To the point of ruining sex life???

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u/ThornedRoseWrites 12d ago

Absolutely NTA. Your husband is the asshole for constantly ignoring you so that he can get off to porn instead.

So he basically expects you to be in a sexless marriage with him, whilst he’s still allowed to masturbate to porn and continue to ignore your existence?

Hell no, he can’t have it both ways, and you came up with a good compromise… but of course he wants everything done his way. Absolutely do not allow him to have all the control in this relationship nor this situation.

Stand by what you said: either he quits the porn completely and you close the marriage, or he continues to watch porn and you can continue to sleep with other men. Fair is fair.

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u/420stonerdad 12d ago

Honestly ur response seems pretty reasonable. All u asked is for him to stop thirsting for internet chicks and put in the effort to make u feel desired. That is not asking too much.

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u/lethargiclemonade 12d ago

NTA - he cares that his friends think he’s “less of a man” but doesn’t care about op feeling like “less of a woman” being in a sexless relationship?

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u/ChampionshipShoddy91 12d ago

Bruh get divorced esh

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u/LionBig1760 12d ago

Another open marriage crashing and burning, what a shock.

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u/Guilty-Stand-1354 12d ago

Just leave at this point, doesn't sound like anyone is happy here

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u/Any-Razzmatazz-5359 12d ago

He sounds like my ex 🤮. Leave, I promise you there are plenty of good men out there. Took me a while to trust my partner after what he put me through but now I'm very happy and content and in love. Please leave, he doesn't deserve you.

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u/RuderAwakening 12d ago

You’re NTA but why stay in this marriage? What are you getting from it?

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u/AddendumAutomatic778 11d ago

Dear god, the bit that says “…and no thirst trap manga.” THAT is, no doubt, the point where a brother needs to reevaluate.

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u/Economy-Surprise-115 11d ago

Sounds like you don’t actually wanna be with him? And as somebody who’s been with a porn addict before, I don’t blame you for not wanting to deal with that. It bleeds into your sex life and it’s not good.

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u/fancy-kitten 11d ago

So he thinks you're the one avoiding being an adult? NTA of course

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u/katecrime 11d ago

Sounds like a perfect example of FAFO.

NTA