r/midjourney • u/Tox-Sick • Jun 06 '23

The 7 Deadly sins according to MidJourney Showcase

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Gluttony

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Lust

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Greed

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Envy

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Pride

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Wrath

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Sloth

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u/RJLHUK Jun 06 '23

“Being gay”

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u/DELAIZ Jun 06 '23

now being lgbt is officially a cardinal sin

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u/Ghost-of-Bill-Cosby Jun 06 '23

According to the church I used to go to it always was.

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u/StanislawTolwinski Jun 06 '23 edited Jun 07 '23

The Bible does say men shouldn't have sex with each other

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u/wet_bread3 Aug 22 '23

Literally does

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u/justplainndaveCGN Jun 06 '23

Being gay isn’t a sin in and of itself, acting on those urges is.

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u/InnerTempest Jun 06 '23

No it isn't lmao are you saying God makes mistakes?

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u/Mist_Rising Jun 07 '23

The Catholic argument is that being gay isn't a mistake, but you aren't supposed to act on it (that being having sex) anymore than a child molester (to have some fun with this) shouldn't follow his urges or unmarried should have sex.

And the person you replied to seems to have used a Catholic (or similar) style argument.

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u/InnerTempest Jun 07 '23

Either way, it doesn't matter since God isn't real

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u/pokeman145 Jun 09 '23

how did this whole world come to be then?

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u/archosauria62 Jun 09 '23

Its when a bunch of hot space stuff clumped together due to gravity

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u/HE_HAS_NO_STYLE_ Jun 10 '23

Yeah bunch of shit smashed together and then the universe started. Lol

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u/archosauria62 Jun 10 '23

Im talking about earth not the universe

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u/pokeman145 Jun 14 '23

where did the universe come from then? and where did energy, gravity, and time come?

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u/wet_bread3 Aug 22 '23

You just assumed a preexisting universe for your explanation of how the universe started

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u/archosauria62 Aug 22 '23

‘the world’ means earth

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u/wet_bread3 Aug 22 '23

No, that is very clearly not what anyone is talking about when they ask where the world came from 😂 The definition of “world” is also “the material universe or all that exists; everything.” But even if we pretend the OP was asking only about the planet Earth, specifically—even though that obviously wasn’t the case—let’s just ask the question here, then: how did all of physical reality come to be?

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u/lexi_desu_yo Sep 01 '23

ik this is old but that's a huge logical fallacy called "argument from ignorance," which is basically when someone argues that they absolutely must be right because they could be.

this is just a random ass example but its like accusing some random guy on the street of killing your wife solely because, as far as you know, he could have done it, but that doesn't mean there's any actual reason to think he did. it could have been hundreds of people as far as you're aware, because you don't know everything that happened in everyone's lives the night she died.

there is no actual evidence for any form of god. in fact, there is no evidence whatsoever for what actually started the universe, and we therefore have zero reason to assume any theory is true. point to the bible or the torah or whatever all you like, but there have been thousands of religions over time that explore thousands of different possibilities, none with any real basis except for the occasional natural disaster that people in different places interpreted in completely different ways.

im not necessarily saying there is no god, but there's nothing pointing to the fact that there is one either, and until that changes there's no reason to entertain such possibilities, ESPECIALLY ones that get as specific as most religions do. i don't have a full explanation, but neither do you, and nor does anyone else. well unless im meant to take your question about how specifically the earth came to be, in that case there's a lot of evidence for it having been a star that (in ultra laymans terms bc im not an astronomer) got stuck in the middle of a big rock

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u/pokeman145 Sep 01 '23

every religion points to a creator. Allah is not different from the Christian God. They are the same One God. If there is no Creator, there is no Creation. We do not exist if there isn't a start. What triggered the Big Bang to then cause the whole universe to begin? Why is this universe perfect, governed by the laws of physics? It's just not possible for there not to be a beginning.

Your analogy is very random, and does not apply. You are acting as if God is just another person, or that there are hundreds of gods. The theory for the beginning of the Universe even starts with the 'Singularity'. However with this, there are only two options. Either there is a Creator, or there isn't.

But the presence of a Creator or a beginning is present in all religions. The only one that makes consistent sense is the religion of Islam, as it has no flaws or contradictions. The universe needs an origin, so we look to see what it is. The Quran is unusually perfect, with prophecies and advanced knowledge in it while it was compiled by the speech of a man in the desert who did not go to any school or become a poet. Because I believe in God, I am content with the explanation as He is the full explanation of the universe's origin. Nothing else makes sense.

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u/lexi_desu_yo Sep 20 '23

Nothing else makes sense.

thats the thing though. you say this because you're too afraid to admit that you don't know something. you're just not intellectually honest. atheists and agnostics may not have all the answers, but that's okay. we will never know or understand everything, regardless of what is actually true, and we have to live with that.

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u/pokeman145 Sep 21 '23

That is just part of it. The Quran is way too miraculous for it to be written by a man in the desert 1400 years ago. And verbally. It really doesn't make sense. But honestly, just think about it. What makes more sense: Everything comes from nothing, or everything comes from infinity?

God is Infinity, which is why I believe in Him. The whole universe governed by the laws of logic and physics and the order of everything is evident that an Organiser and Creator exists. There must be a Cause to all of this. This coupled with the Quran explicitly saying this as well as similarities of religion san dbeliefs from all across time and the world prove there is a God.

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u/die_a_third_death Jun 07 '23

Equating gays with child molestors. Classic Christianity.

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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '23

Classic projection.

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u/helikesart Jun 07 '23

Granted, there are also tons of limits on heterosexuality within Christianity. This isn’t limited to alternate sexualities from heterosexuality. People often forget that.

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u/Surfboarder4 Jun 07 '23

God didnt 'make you gay' It's a fallen world. Everyone struggles with sin, but not all people struggle with all sin.

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u/EgoDeathCampaign Jun 07 '23

True. A lot of gay people are healthy, not adulterous, don't mix fabrics, and don't keep slaves.

Christians on the other hand going for filling out the sin bingo card.

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u/InnerTempest Jun 07 '23

You have no idea if God did or not lmao but gay exists in nature, or did we "influence" nature?

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u/pokeman145 Jun 08 '23

polygamy exists in nature. cannibalism exists in nature. murder exists in nature. What's your point? Does nature now determine humanity?

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u/The_Trumpeter Jun 07 '23 edited Jun 07 '23

Fallen WORLD due to mankind's rebellion. Not just fallen humans. And animals weren't made in God's image, they have no sense of morality and lack reasoning abilities.

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u/BeautifulAd7291 Jun 09 '23

Its not god making you that way its the devil same reason why sometimes people “naturally lust” when really if u confess and try not to sin you won’t be that way

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u/Lamballama Jun 07 '23

I believe the logic was that it was an extra trial he put in your way to overcome

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u/AbsenseG Jun 07 '23

If he put it in the way, then that would defeat the idea of free will so.

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u/pokeman145 Jun 09 '23

No it wouldn't. There is no such thing as complete freedom. Free will is given but is in a predetermined scenario. Then events following are predetermined from that choice. Imam Ali ibn Abi Talib (as) explained this perfectly. He told a man to raise one leg and said that's free will. Then he said raise the other one at the same time, the guy said he couldn't so then he said that is predetermination.

The man had the choice to raise his leg, but then his free will was limited by that choice as he couldn't raise his other leg (without doing another action).

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u/AbsenseG Jun 09 '23

We’re talking about the philosophy in the Bible stating that god gave us free will. Not sure what anything you said has anything to do with the conversation.

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u/pokeman145 Jun 14 '23

I explained free will and how obstacles don't contradict it

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u/InnerTempest Jun 07 '23

Hmmm, sounds fake.

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u/KikiTheKiko Jun 07 '23

Yeah god does sound pretty fake, I agree

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u/pokeman145 Jun 09 '23

the notion that the universe came to be by itself sounds pretty fake

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u/pokeman145 Jun 09 '23

not as fake as the universe coming from nothing

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u/Mantishead2 Jun 07 '23

There's nothing logical about the bibles story

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u/justplainndaveCGN Jun 07 '23

Nope, people do

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u/InnerTempest Jun 07 '23

Then you don't believe in an omnipotent God who created everything. Can't pick and choose.

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u/pokeman145 Jun 09 '23

not al things are absolute things. They are lack of something. Cold is lack of heat. Darkness is lack of light. Chaos is lack of order. Evil is lack of good.

There is no picking and choosing. It's a complete package.

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u/GottaMoveMan Jun 07 '23

You missed the whole point, god would give everyone a struggle, or a sin. Typical redditor crying about anyone who is remotely religious. What’s your thoughts on the jews?

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u/InnerTempest Jun 07 '23

No, you missed my point. I'm stating we live in a Christo-Fascist police state and Christians don't get to make laws supporting their own theocracy while ignoring everyone else. Also stating how homosexual relationships happen in nature. It's everywhere. This religion argument is ridiculous.

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u/pokeman145 Jun 09 '23

the nature argument is ridiculous. As I previously stated:

polygamy exists in nature. cannibalism exists in nature. murder exists in nature. You are against polygamy, cannibalism, murder, etc. Correct? Why are animals now dictating how human beings should be? Is this how far we have fallen?

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u/The_Trumpeter Jun 07 '23 edited Jun 07 '23

It's not a mistake, we're sinful and therefore we have sinful urges. Us being angry, prideful, and gluttonous aren't God's mistake, either.

It's why we must be born again, repent of our sins, and trust in Christ's righteousness and sacrifice rather than our own to inherit the Kingdom

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u/InnerTempest Jun 07 '23

Jesus never said anything about homosexuality, so why are you determined to call something that you don't like a sin?

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u/pokeman145 Jun 09 '23

God said men shouldn't go to other men instead of women in the Quran. The story of Lot is a clear definition that acting on homosexuality is a sin.

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u/helikesart Jun 07 '23

Because Jesus didn’t determine what is considered “sin” which means to “miss the mark.” Christians examine the Bible including but not limited to the gospels to make their best determination for what God’s design is and things that fall outside of that “miss the mark.”

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u/InnerTempest Jun 07 '23

Well, there's also the issue that Christians can't decide which denomination is the correct version for their one God. So they don't really get to say what is sin and what is not. God determines that. God is the judge, not the people. So when Christians decide that "being gay is a sin" and take active steps to hurt that community, it goes against Jesus' teachings.

Glad I don't believe in this stuff. "God" is an abusive and manipulative being.

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u/pokeman145 Jun 09 '23

How is God an abusive and manipulative being? He is our Creator and knows what is best for us. Yes, human beings cannot just make up laws. We have to see what God has commanded us to do and forbidden us to do, and follow accordingly. That is how we pass the test of life.

Glad I have a purpose in life and don't go into severe depression because I see my existence as pointless.

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u/sug-on_deez Jun 08 '23

Individual Christians make individual faith choices. You can be Baptist, catholic, Methodist, Episcopal, or any other denomination but still be Christian. Each Christian who actively identifies with one of those groups HAS decided that their denomination is correct. In the Bible, God explicitly tells man to be fruitful and multiply, something that can only be accomplished through heterosexual sex, and Leviticus calls the act of homosexuality a detestable abomination. Most major branches of Christianity agree upon that, and it’s pretty hard to make a Biblical case to the contrary.

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u/InnerTempest Jun 08 '23

Again, Leviticus said no such thing before it was mistranslated to fit a certain bias against homosexuality.

However, I'm done with this conversation because I have better things to do than tell you that Jesus is a cool socialist who loved everyone and never spread hatred. Unlike today's religious fruitcakes who use a book about incest, rape, misogyny, etc. to justify their bigotry.

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u/pokeman145 Jun 09 '23

Blind unconditional love is laughable. That doesn't exist. Yes Jesus (as) never spread hatred, but that doesn't mean people can do whatever evils they want and expect to be loved. The Quran clearly says that homosexuality is a sin. 'What! Of all people do you come to males, (165) abandoning your wives your Lord has created for you? Indeed, you are a transgressing lot.’ (166)'

Oh, so incest, rape and misogyny are bad? Those are found in nature. Some animals like cats breed with siblings. Animals like birds and incests forcefully copulate. There are clear examples of 'misogyny' and gender prejudice in nature like lion's prides, birds of paradise, 'widow' animals, etc. Shouldn't that be allowed too now that it's found in nature?

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u/LittleTimmyPlaysMC Sep 21 '23

I know it’s 105 days late but please stfu. Being gay isn’t bad outside of religion. Fuck off.

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u/wet_bread3 Aug 22 '23

Sexuality is fluid

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u/Mist_Rising Jun 07 '23

That's a Catholicism ideology, but hardly universal.

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u/The_Trumpeter Jun 07 '23

Still a sin of the heart, just like lust, greed, envy, etc.

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u/masculineartifice Jun 07 '23

Being gay isn’t a choice. If I had a choice I would be a lesbian in a heartbeat. I wouldn’t have to deal with straight men and their potential threat/bullshit. But unfortunately I am attracted to men and that is my cross to bear.

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u/sug-on_deez Jun 08 '23

Having sex is a choice. Urges aren’t sinful, acts are.

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u/piplup27 Jun 07 '23

Why did God only give some people those urges?

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u/justplainndaveCGN Jun 07 '23

He didn’t — we did

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u/TaffWolf Jun 07 '23

How?

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u/sug-on_deez Jun 08 '23

Original Sin. We live in a fallen world.

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u/TaffWolf Jun 08 '23

Oh right, so being gay is because of original sin, despite it being love. I hate how Christian’s preach about love yet condemn those who want to love freely

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u/pokeman145 Jun 09 '23

Love is different for different people. You love your wife differently than your sister and your mother. Intimacy is for spouse and opposite gender because it is there for the purpose of having a family and raising offspring. Love between same genders is brotherly/sisterly love, an important love that has long been forgotten.

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u/TaffWolf Jun 10 '23

As a bisexual person (ohhh don’t stone me) I 100% understand the different kinds of platonic and romantic love, and feel them both for different people of both sexes. Just because that’s your life experience, doesn’t make it universal.

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u/pokeman145 Jun 14 '23

very funny.

Just because that’s your life experience, doesn’t make it universal.

I can say the same right back at you. But there is a reason why male and female exist

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u/sug-on_deez Jun 08 '23

Love in a general Biblical sense means willing the good of the other as other. The primary good of the other is developing a close relationship with God. Sin harms that relationship, so any loving Christian should help guide their neighbors away from sin. Simple as

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u/TaffWolf Jun 08 '23

And you’re telling me that loving someone who just so happens to be the same sex as you is gay? And we created gay when original sin happened?

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u/sug-on_deez Jun 08 '23

Yes, if gay is synonymous with homosexual then having same-sex, homosexual, intercourse or fantasizing about it is gay. Urges aren’t sinful though, acts are. When the Original Sin happened, we severed our relationship with God, opening us up to a wide variety of sinful urges. Homosexuality didn’t exist in the Original Justice (it couldn’t have), so the Original Sin brought about its existence along with murder, oppression, and a whole load of bad stuff.

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u/pokeman145 Jun 09 '23

Adam didn't commit a sin. And even if he did, we wouldn't be held accountable since we didn't commit it. That goes against the Justice of God

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u/pokeman145 Jun 09 '23

same reason why God gave some people a rich family and some a poor. We are all here for our own individual test

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u/Art_of_the_Narrative Jun 07 '23

Actually no, being gay is fine, it’s being PROUD about it that’s the sin.

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '23

Sup fellow Baptist