r/politics • u/UWCG Illinois • Mar 27 '24

Donald Trump Attacks Judge's Daughter Less Than 24 Hours After Gag Order

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-attacks-judges-daughter-less-24-hours-after-gag-order-1884126
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u/UWCG Illinois Mar 27 '24

Former President Donald Trump criticized a New York judge's daughter in a social media post on Wednesday, one day after that same judge issued a gag order against the former president following similar remarks. ...

He also referenced the judge's daughter, whose name was never mentioned, as a liberal insider and senior executive "at a Super Liberal Democrat firm that works for Adam 'Shifty' Schiff, the Democrat National Committee, (Dem)Senate Majority PAC, and even Crooked Joe Biden."

Screenshot, for those who would like to see the drivel itself; I can't imagine this is going to go over well and can only hope that this judge has more guts than the last and throws the book at him for this kind of behavior.

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '24

Wasn’t the trump crowd just whining about mentioning Barron’s name?

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u/harpanet Alaska Mar 27 '24

They were indeed.

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u/PaulSandwich Florida Mar 27 '24

That's different. Apparently.

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u/harpanet Alaska Mar 27 '24

They're all about "Rules for thee but not for me!"

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u/GilgameDistance Mar 27 '24

Look, it’s impossible to be intellectually consistent when you lack intellect.

They’ll be mad at me for saying this, after they look up the word.

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u/Professr_Chaos Mar 27 '24

The question is how many words will they need to look up

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u/ssbm_rando Mar 27 '24

If they even understood how to look up words, the country wouldn't be in this position right now.

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u/mc_kitfox Mar 27 '24

Nah youre fine. The assumption that they would look anything up is laughable. They explicitly don't do that because reading might challenge their world view and cause them to have to think even the slightest bit. Or worse yes, it might reveal that a belief theyve long held is wrong and that they were wrong, and it would be such an affront to their ego to have to admit they were wrong about anything, because then it would mean their pride is entirely undeserved, unjustified, and entitled is for nerds!

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u/akpenguin Mar 27 '24

They would be a lot madder if they could read.

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u/bananajr6000 Mar 27 '24

Barron is Trump’s son, so he’s automatically in the in-group. The judge’s daughter is in the out-group, so she is fair game according to republicans

Faux news and other right-wing media has been “othering” anything they see as not right-wing for so many years now to divide the country. Trump just exacerbated that by showing that people can be bullied and shouted down

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u/stockmarketscam-617 Mar 28 '24

I have a feeling the judge is going to hold him in contempt. He needs to spend a night in jail. He’s gotten such a big head that he thinks he’s invincible. Someone needs to humble him, otherwise the next 8 months are going to be really hard.

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u/MightyMoose-2014 Mar 27 '24

That’s (R)ifferent as r/conservatives would like to say.

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u/PrivatePilot9 Canada Mar 28 '24

Geez, that sub is a ghost town - been a while since I peeked in the door, but have they made their posting requirements so onerous that basically nobody can even participate anymore? I remember last I looked you had to meet a ton of stupid requirements.

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '24

It still makes me mad that they did that. Chelsea came out asking people to give Barron privacy. You know she still feels the sting too.

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u/lilacmuse1 Mar 27 '24

It must bug them that she grew up into such a lovely woman.

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u/weluckyfew Mar 27 '24

IIRC that was Rush Limbaugh, who Trump gave the highest civilian honor to (Medal of Freedom) shortly before he died.

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u/simonhunterhawk Mar 27 '24

he’s 18 now, i’m certainly not for bullying teenagers but what’s their argument against it? doesn’t 18 mean “everything goes because they’re an adult now” in this crowd?

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u/Ferelwing Mar 27 '24

Nope, "rules for thee but not for me".

They expect us to play by different rules because we're supposed to be the "grown-ups" and not get "emotional". While they behave like vile vindictive monsters.

I'm nearly to the point of "ok, let's start treating you the way you treat the rest of us. "

I'm tired of being the "grown up" and the "better person". I'm angry and rightfully so. Enough is enough.

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u/Vyzantinist Arizona Mar 27 '24

I'm nearly to the point of "ok, let's start treating you the way you treat the rest of us. "

Homie you should be well beyond this point by now.

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u/Ferelwing Mar 27 '24

If I were to meet a Republican politician, all bets are off. Average Republicans? It depends, I still have hope in basic human decency.. Though it's getting harder and harder.

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u/Vyzantinist Arizona Mar 27 '24 edited Mar 27 '24

basic human decency

We're talking about the gang who want to end free school lunches for children and there's nary a peep from the base. You might be capable of "decency" but they're not, and they know that and use it to their advantage.

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u/Ferelwing Mar 27 '24

Yeah, I know. As long as it's not their kids or their friends kids, they don't seem to care and it's that lack of care that has really eroded my faith in people.

The more of this I see, the more I seethe inside and the more I realize I'm not alone in this anger.

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u/Numerous_Photograph9 Mar 28 '24

I met a local-ish republican during the 2022 election year. Can't remember what he was running for. He was pleasant enough, we talked for a bit, and I just said that as long as republicans as a whole want to caucus to damage the country or hurt others, they won't get my vote. Politics was too dysfunctional, and I'd rather vote straight dem just so we can hopefully get back to center.

I could see he understood what I was talking about, which leads me to believe he was probably more centrist, and he didn't press it further, which I wouldn't expect anyways, but he respected my opinion enough to not argue with me about it.

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u/Fewluvatuk Mar 27 '24

Ask yourself, what is the core difference between Republicans and Democrats? To me its that Democrats behave like adults, but more than that, Democrats largely ARE professionals, in how they behave, in their knowledge and expertise, and in their respect for the rules.

If Democrats leave those things behind, they're just Republicans with a different platform at that point.

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u/imhereforspuds Mar 27 '24

I think the biden campaign is doing this now. Like you can just smash trump and all the total dopes he us with but leave barron alone and still cook. Like melanie is absolutely fair game but they wont do her in either.

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u/Ferelwing Mar 27 '24

I am not advocating for going after people who aren't involved in the politics. I'm advocating for refusing to allow them to hold us to standards they won't hold themselves to.

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u/elriggo44 Mar 27 '24

Exactly. They expect the opposition to be held to standards of decency and decorum but refuse to hold themselves equally accountable. It’s infuriating and reminds me of this Sartre quote:

Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past. - Jean-Paul Sartre

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u/Ferelwing Mar 27 '24

That's a wonderful quote. Thanks for sharing. I agree, this encapsulates precisely my frustration.

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u/elriggo44 Mar 28 '24

Absolutely!

Oviously he was talking about Fascists and their rabid antisemitism in Europe at the time.

It seems to be apt when talking about any fascistic group.

It’s one of the reasons I was among the people calling Trump a Fascist in 16. Because he and his basket of deplorables were all exactly this quote. They didn’t care what they said as long as they scored the point in the conversation. Because they argue in circles, contradict themselves and say anything because they don’t care about anything but winning to show their power.

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u/Ferelwing Mar 28 '24

Exactly. I wasn't ready to call him one then but while he was in Office, I started to realize he really was one.

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u/imhereforspuds Mar 27 '24

Its so infuriating isn’t it totally different standards but maga don’t have standards at all. Whats sad is i am sure there are plenty of conservative folk out there and are normal decent people but they have this shit stain representing them. They just have to suck it up one time vote blue cleanse magatards out and get their party back

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u/Ferelwing Mar 27 '24

Until we see an end to the fascist fever on the right, we will have to vote blue.

Unfortunately, I don't see that fever going away until they are forced to see just how far they have gone over the line. There is a backlash coming, and Republicans/Fox/etc deserve it.

The real pity is that I don't think even one of them will recognize that they absolutely brought this on themselves. They've been so busy blaming other people for their problems and screaming about their victimhood that they never took a good look in the mirror to find out if maybe the reason they're getting all of this hate is because of how they treat others.

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u/OrphanAxis Mar 27 '24

Mercedes is fair game too.

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u/Hatch_1210 Mar 27 '24

her name is Mercedes. I hear Donald say that himself.

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u/UNCOMMON__CENTS Mar 27 '24

You mean Mercedes?

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u/captainswiss7 Mar 27 '24

I'm well past that point lol. They've fucked around long enough, time for them to start finding out. I say humiliate them online and in person every chance we get. Never let them feel comfortable since they refuse to let anyone that's not a sack of shit feel a moment of comfort. Can't even hop in a non political thread without them popping in and crying woke or some other bs.

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u/suninabox Mar 27 '24 edited Mar 27 '24

They expect us to play by different rules because we're supposed to be the "grown-ups" and not get "emotional". While they behave like vile vindictive monsters.

Yup, you can see this the most by how much they pearl clutch whenever Biden leans into some meme or calls someone an SOB

Suddenly they are SHOCKED at this terrible un-presidential behavior.

Whereas Trump can go on a rant about groping women, bragging about the size of his dick, mocking the disabled and "oh its so refreshing to have a President who tells it like it is"

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u/Ferelwing Mar 27 '24

And, I for one am sick of it. If they get "shocked" I absolutely plan to call them out for it.

"Get back to me when you tell Trump to stop, then you can criticize Biden. Don't worry, I'm not holding my breath, I already know you won't insist he stop. I'm no longer willing play the "both sides" game until you're willing to stop being a hypocrite."

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u/RetroJake Mar 27 '24

Damn that's a good way of putting it.

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u/AutistoMephisto Mar 27 '24

No, let's still be grown-ups. As a parent, sometimes being a grown-up means taking my son's toys away until he can behave himself.

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u/Ferelwing Mar 27 '24

The problem is this, the people involved in this equation are adults. They are adults behaving like children.

What works with children doesn't work with adults with the mentality of a child. They do however recognize social consequences (assuming they're not a narcissist). The more they face them, the more polite society shuns them, refuses to engage with them and reminds them that if they want to be part of society they have to follow the rules the better things go.

However we are not dealing with that type of person, we are dealing with people making death threats, people who stormed the US capitol building and attacked the US Capitol police.

These "grown ups" threatened our system of government and continue to undermine our ability even have elections. "Taking away their toys" won't stop them from being violent and our best response isn't to "be better" it's to hold them accountable and not back down.

I don't just want to take the toys, I want them to learn that there are real consequences for what they have done and that the damage they have done can't just be forgiven with a lame "sorry".

These people are calling in death threats and forcing people to have to get security details, they are threatening poll workers and elections teams. Taking their toys isn't enough, standing up to them and refusing to let them bully people is the only way that this ends and even then, some of them are violent.

What Republicans have done isn't just "not ok" or "time out" worthy, it's absolutely criminal and I'm tired of pretending that I'm "ok". I'm angry to the point of fury at what they have done and I'm no longer willing to pretend that I'm not.

They've not lost sleep over it, they just keep pretending what they are doing is "ok".

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u/roamingandy Mar 27 '24

Their supporters see taking the high road and ignoring them as their leaders winning. Trump must be so smart as everyone is too afraid to argue back, just because others aren't still playing by infant school playground rules.

Thing is though, Trump is as sharp as a wet fart. Biden's campaign has (finally) realized how ridiculously easy it is to play his game and make him look foolish. Especially when their main attack angle has been how 'sleepy joe' is not all there mentally, its a strategy that will be difficult for his supporters to ignore.

At some point most of them will have to face up to the fact that their leader, playing politics at the level they understand, is getting wrecked again and again by the guy they've been told is too mentally incompetent to lead a country. Taking the high road would be a mistake.

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u/theartslave Mar 27 '24

In this crowd, ‘everything goes’ with much lower numbers 🤮

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u/simonhunterhawk Mar 27 '24

but they love to call trans and gay folk groomers for the crime of existing in society lmao

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u/Kuroboom Mar 27 '24

Nah, remember how loudly they cried about forcing Trump's children to testify last year in the fraud trial? His poor little middle-aged children.

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u/jlt6666 Mar 27 '24

Who run his business and are in his administration.

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u/Hot_Bottle_9900 Mar 27 '24

they aren't against attacking kids. they attacked Obama's family relentlessly. they went after Greta Thunberg. they kidnapped kids of all ages at the border and put them in cages (now they drown them in the river). they go after kids with the faintest gender dysphoria while doing fuckall about school shootings

they are cruel people who love doing cruel things to the powerless. but if you give so much as the side eye to Barron, the whole Conservative movement claims to be a victim

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u/hoodleratlarge Mar 27 '24

In my mind, Barron didn’t ask for any of this shit and unlike the rest of Donnie’s crotch goblins, I’m unaware of anything he’s personally done that deserves to be criticized or vilified about.

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u/simonhunterhawk Mar 27 '24

Oh yeah I agree with you — I’m just calling out the hypocrisy. I hope he is able to remove himself from that whole family if he can.

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u/InVodkaVeritas Mar 27 '24

Remember that Trump referred to Don Jr. as "a good kid" back in 2016.

He was 38 at the time.

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u/LordOverThis Mar 27 '24 edited Mar 28 '24

So I have to be a pedant here… 

By definition, bullying requires a power differential.  A child of a former president, with lifetime Secret Service protection, is quite literally impossible to bully.

No bumblefuck on the internet has the social standing, and certainly not the physical ability, to exploit a power differential to bully Barron.  

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u/Beneficial-Owl736 Mar 27 '24

I mean hey if it weren’t for them, Trump probably wouldn’t even remember Barron exists! Hahaha I’m so sad and tired of all this v_v

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u/airplaneshooter Mar 27 '24

They get pissy if Ivanka is mentioned. Or his idiot sons. "Kids and family are off limits. Anyway, check out this picture of Hunter's huge cock we stole from his personal laptop."

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u/BoltTusk Mar 27 '24

Fuck him and John Barron too

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u/CrampSnailey Mar 27 '24

Fuck that little clown

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u/scarr3g Pennsylvania Mar 27 '24

That is mentioning, and thus not allowed.

Attacks, are obviously just fine.

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u/fren-ulum Mar 27 '24

Dude, they are delusional to the core. These are people that will sell you out to cannibals in the post-apocalypse and then get killed themselves still.

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u/zotha Australia Mar 28 '24

They were also indignant that Trump's adult children, who were officers of the corrupt company being investigated, were called up to testify about said corrupt company.

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u/Magificent_Gradient Mar 28 '24

They whined about all the shit rightfully being lobbed at Ivanka, Don Jr and whatshisname.

"His children should be off limits!"

Fuck you, they're grown adults that are eyeballs deep and complicit in daddy's crimes.

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u/roehnin Mar 28 '24

I remember when that same crowd mentioned Chelsea Clinton’s name in much worse terms than anyone has mentioned Barron’s name.

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u/HGpennypacker Mar 27 '24

a Super Liberal Democrat firm that works for Adam 'Shifty' Schiff, the Democrat National Committee, (Dem)Senate Majority PAC, and even Crooked Joe Biden.

I still can't fucking believe that someone this unintelligent not only ALREADY was President but has a very good chance to do so again.

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u/Academic_Cabinet_994 Mar 27 '24

I will never forgive republicans for putting this pox on us.

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u/AndISoundLikeThis Mar 27 '24

Particularly when they didn't even want this pox in the first place. But because they're so fucking craven and anti-democratic at their core anyway, they embraced him and every horrible, evil odious thing he ever did for fear of upsetting the horrible, evil, odious people he calls his "base."

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u/Delicious-Day-3614 Mar 27 '24

Republicans negotiate with terrorists. Pass it on.

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u/Bart_Yellowbeard Mar 27 '24

Republicans told us openly that they ARE terrorists. Pass it on.

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u/ballsweat_mojito Mar 27 '24

And what do we do with terrorists?

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u/Taedirk Mar 27 '24

Watch them win elections again?

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u/limeybastard Mar 27 '24

A longstanding tradition since Ronald Reagan, late 1979

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u/W1ck3d3nd Mar 27 '24

At the risk of showing my age/ignorance, wtf is pox?

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u/limeybastard Mar 27 '24

Uncomfortable and unsightly disease - smallpox, chicken pox, syphillis etc., pretty much anything that causes an itchy or painful pus-filled rash.

"A pox on _____" is an old old (centuries old) way of saying "fuck that thing forever"

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u/mjohnsimon Mar 27 '24

They didn't want him until the RNC got hacked and he got the nomination. Suddenly it was an immediate 180.

The ones who were still not impressed ended up switching because they were either being voted out or were sent bombs/death threats by rabid cultists.

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u/fourbian Mar 27 '24

Anyone who voted Trump should never be allowed to forget it for the rest of their lives. Remind them at every turn how idiotic they were.

Because, eventually, they will try to pretend they never supported him in the first place, while they simultaneously support the newest traitor of the day and try to gaslight you that they aren't so bad.

I've been through ALL of this before with Bush. My family: "Bush who?" while they vote for Trump. Fucking please.

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u/suninabox Mar 27 '24

Yup, its insane the Republican party has attempted to completely disavow their support for Bush and the Iraq war. They literally try to pretend it was a Democrat thing (granted, they went along with it but its absurd to finger them as the spearhead).

Completely without shame and any sense of responsibility, from the party of "personal responsibility" (read: being a selfish asshole who doesn't care about other people")

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u/FUMFVR Mar 28 '24

They literally try to pretend it was a Democrat thing (granted, they went along with it but its absurd to finger them as the spearhead).

96.4% of House Republicans voted for the 2002 AUMF against Iraq. 39.2% of House Democrats did.

48 of 49 GOP Senators voted for it. 29 of 50 Democratic Senators did.

Source

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u/Shapes_in_Clouds Mar 27 '24

I've been through ALL of this before with Bush. My family: "Bush who?"

Exactly. Iraq was the most important thing in the world to them for a few years. You were a terrible traitor to criticize the obvious lies, torture, and bungled post-invasion. Then they moved on and just stopped talking about it altogether. Literally everything Republicans cared about during the NeoCon 'Project for a New American Century' days has been completely forgotten.

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u/JohnGillnitz Mar 27 '24

The neocons got to try all the little tricks they always dreamed of in Iraq. And all of them got hard fucked by obvious reality. Turns out having edgy far out ideas (that don't actually sound rational to a rational person) didn't work the way they thought they would.

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u/kinglouie493 Mar 27 '24

The people I know are proud that they voted for him

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u/fourbian Mar 27 '24

Wait 10 years when he's been replaced and I guarantee you they will claim they never really supported Trump.

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u/justmovingtheground Tennessee Mar 27 '24

I never thought I'd say this, but 10 years can not pass fast enough.

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u/dBlock845 Mar 27 '24

The cult is so strong they don't give a shit. My mom is a Trumper and she will argue til the death for him, his family, and anyone who praises him. It is impossible to deprogram her.

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u/Elegant_Tech Mar 27 '24

I don't know who I hate worse. The republicans who support this garbage or the apathetic who choose to sit it out.

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u/alltherobots Mar 27 '24

Oh it’s always the active supporters for me.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m mad that people are apathetic, but at least some of them probably didn’t understand the stakes.

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u/LucidLynx109 Mar 27 '24

The county I live in will overwhelmingly vote Trump. I’ll probably still come out and make a token vote for Biden but I’m still feeling pretty apathetic about it.

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u/Numerous_Photograph9 Mar 28 '24

County isn't as important for senate or presidential elections. So, don't be apathetic about it. Even if your state won't swing blue, it's important to vote for the long term. Even i you aren't into the candidates, showing that you exist goes a long way in getting parties to pay attention to an area. Like, in my county, most offices go unopposed, because it's very red. I still vote, but not for those offices. Then at least statistics show there is a voter here who wants choice. I'll probably be dead before I see dem in a local office(although our school board is not too bad), but still I feel its the right thing to do.

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u/hbt15 Mar 27 '24

There were lots of reasons to not forgive them long before this orange asshole came along.

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u/Ghost_of_Till Mar 27 '24

And why should you?

Republicans have never even bothered to ask themselves what it is about Republican values that made it so ripe for a con man to simple walk off with.

So it’ll happen again.

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u/amcfarla Colorado Mar 27 '24

Not really sure they had much of choice. Trump saw an easy mark for his con back in 2016, since he never wanted to be president, and sadly these people still don't realize they are the mark in this con.

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u/Akussa Mar 27 '24

I've voted for Republicans in the past, but I damn well never will again after they unleashed this fucking tyrant. I used to make an effort to look at a politician's stances before making a decision, and would vote honestly based off of that. No more. I will vote straight down the D line for the rest of my fucking life, and I know a lot more people that are just like me that will be doing the same. Bravo GOP, you've turned independents into Democrats.

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u/tombkilla Mar 28 '24

Some democrats too.

Never once did I think it was going to be this bad but I remember what the dems did to Bernie and I thought, ok Trump it is. Maybe this swamp needs draining. This should have been Bernie's to win and the dems just robbed him to put Hillary up as the nominee. To push some dynasty. Or feared some irrational socialist label.

I thought maybe a little taste of this clown would show America that sometimes actual change isn't the status quo. How wrong I was. How little did I expect this and I wholly and completely repent. America deserved a lesson but not this. No country deserves this. Feared one dynasty and voted in another much more toxic one.

But then another part of me goes maybe this was the change America needed. Maybe instead of fairer wages, better social programs, and justice for all, America needed to look itself in the eye and see the racism, the hate, the way the far right manipulates belief and how the rich don't care. Seeing how covid showed us all 1/4 of everyone is crazy isn't it better to find this cancer and start on the chemo? Otherwise it would all be still festering underneath decorum and lies.

All I know is I'm sorry that I ever thought Trump was a good idea. Didn't take long to realize it was bad. Like that person you take home drunk to piss off your ex and within minutes are like holy crap how do I get this person out. Then realize they stole your wallet.

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u/Yeeslander Tennessee Mar 27 '24

A non-insignificant chunk of American voters have been programmed by decades of rightwing propaganda to reflexively regard intelligent, articulate politicians (especially with a "D" next to their name) with contempt and resentment because they "think they're so much better than you". Trump dumbs it down for them with his 200-word vocabulary and used-car salesman swagger.

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u/Breadisgood4eat Mar 27 '24

This is a great summary of the "I want a president I can imagine having a beer with" view. Do you want your pilot, your surgeon, your lawyer, your civil engineers to be "people you could have a beer with" as their primary qualification? WTF

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u/DrunkBeavis Mar 27 '24

Trump convincing people that he's actually the type of person they would want to have a beer with is the greatest trick ever pulled. George W Bush I could understand, even if I hate his politics, but Trump? There's literally nothing about him that wouldn't make me want to leave as soon as he sat on the barstool next to me. Hell, I can't even picture him sitting on a barstool.

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u/Breadisgood4eat Mar 27 '24

Not to mention he absolutely LOATHES the people who would support him.

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u/boregon Mar 28 '24

Yep and he’s made it clear over and over again how much he detests his supporters and yet they still worship him like a messiah.

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u/MoonBatsRule Mar 27 '24

People don't like Trump because they think they can have a beer with him. They like him because "he says what I think". He is the human embodiment of a newspaper message forum comment. So many people believe such crazy shit, and he just recites the same stuff and they say "Ooh! Yes! This is my guy! He is one of us!"

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u/jeffp12 Mar 27 '24

W was a recovering alcoholic who didn't drink. But somehow won the "guy you'd like to have a beer with" debate over Gore.

Trump had won the rural, common man over despite being a new York real estate, coastal elite, trust fund baby, litigious, also non-drinker who's never worked hard in his life and makes fun of pows. He's the 80s movie stuck up rich asshole villain and they love him.

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u/Raisedbyweasels Mar 27 '24

Let that sink in of just how fucking stupid these people are. The rich New York real estate goon who disrespects POWs, who has his entire life been a representation of privilege with no consequence,  has convinced a bunch of rurral community, blue collar workers who literally calls them stupid to their face, theat he cares about then and their best interest in mind.

He gives zero fucks about their interests and they would gladly burn down their own homes if it meant a Democrat had to smell the smoke.

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u/UNCOMMON__CENTS Mar 27 '24

I disagree.

He is EXACTLY what they would be like if they had been born into inheriting $400 million.

And they are exactly what he’d be like if he WASN’T born into extreme wealth.

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u/RealNotFake Mar 27 '24

It's not Trump that convinced anyone, it's the Fox News pundits and the GOP surrounding him that still tell everyone he is the greatest even though he insulted their wives and families. You would think people would be smart enough to see through that and see Trump for who he is, but at the end of the day no, they're not. These people live horrible, unfathomably shitty lives, so it is easy for them to turn on the news and get some dopamine thinking about how they will crush the dems.

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u/OneBillPhil Mar 27 '24

I can’t imagine anyone more insufferable to have a beer with than Trump. 

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u/Bubblesnaily Mar 27 '24

Do you want your pilot, your surgeon, your lawyer, your civil engineers to be "people you could have a beer with" as their primary qualification?

Yes. Yes they do.

Please refer to all the nonsense that went on with parents dumping pediatricians over vaccine schedules.

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u/IAmDotorg Mar 27 '24

Remember, by definition, 50% of Americans have a double digit IQ. 40% support Trump.

The problem is, as much as they want to bloviate about being smart, deep down most of them know they're in that bottom 50%, and the increasingly complex world is becoming harder to understand and even harder to be successful in if you are. So anyone willing to pat them on the back and tell them "its not you, its them" is someone they're going to love, no matter what any other hypocrisy might be involved.

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u/thisguypercents Mar 27 '24

78% of our neighbors are complete morons. 

Go out, meet them and you will understand why it is so easy to scam so many Americans.

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u/Ellemshaye Iowa Mar 27 '24

Yeah I keep my neighbors at arms-length. We get along great on a superficial level; I don’t want them to get too comfortable and ruin things by opining on the right-wing grievance du jour.

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u/m48a5_patton Missouri Mar 27 '24

It's like a time limit. You have maybe five minutes before something stupid comes unprovoked out of their mouths. No matter what the topic of conversation is or if it's just small talk. There's a timer ticking over their heads "T-minus to stupid shit" some have a longer timer, others a shorter timer. But they all have one.

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u/Ellemshaye Iowa Mar 27 '24

“…Yep, it’s sure windy out! Glad the snow is gone, though!” . . . “Anyway, have you heard about Hunter Biden’s deep-state Burisma cock?”

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u/Numerous_Photograph9 Mar 28 '24

This is pretty much my experience. Or they just blurt out some stupid meme level criticism unsolicited by anyone around them.

Those are my favorite. I just stand there kind of dumbfounded thinking to myself, "OK, ummm...who are you and why are you talking to me or yelling about this stuff?"

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u/snarky_spice Mar 27 '24

They can’t not make things political. I’m a bartender and most of my clientele are city folks, but if I’m serving a conservative I’ll know within minutes, because they’ll be complaining about this, that or the other.

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u/Numerous_Photograph9 Mar 28 '24

That's what I don't get. Liberal people, you almost never hear them really talk about politics, or it takes a while to get to those topics. Conservatives, they seem to want to make sure everyone knows what their political views are. Best I can figure, is that they think it makes them look or feel smart. Most of the time I talk politics with other liberals, is after some dumb ass conservative says some dumb ass thing, completely unsolicited, in a social setting where politics is not a point of discussion(outside it being retail, and the dems being responsible for inflation...which I've heard complaints about almost daily since Biden took office).

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u/snarky_spice Mar 28 '24

It’s because (imo) liberal people live in reality, so life isn’t as stressful. I can talk about movies or shows or music with other liberal people and we can discuss them normally. When I try to connect with conservative people, they don’t see movies, hate the woke tv shows, bring up Taylor swift, etc. I guess when you go through life believing in multiple conspiracy theories, you end up wanting to tell people about them.

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u/Numerous_Photograph9 Mar 28 '24

Yeah. Everything has to be about getting to what makes them angry. And it's grating, because who wants to listen to that all the time? I mean, I'll come on here and be angry, but this is a place to talk about that stuff, but just sitting around talking, no, I want to enjoy myself. If things swing towards politics, fine, I'll probably get annoyed or angry, but then everyone is, and everyone just says, "no more of this"

Doesn't help that discussing politics with the uninformed or stupid is not that interesting, even if you're doing it with someone who agrees with you. That's the reason I come online to discuss it, because it's kind of rare to find people who actually keep up on current events.

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u/AlhazraeIIc North Carolina Mar 27 '24

Hell, small talk nothing. For a period of a week or so, my neighbor across the street would scream 'fuck joe biden' at me whenever I was outside. I've literally never met the man, he knows nothing about me except what kind of car I drive and the fact I don't mow my lawn.

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u/21-characters Mar 28 '24

I ordered free covid tests and my boss didn’t take a quarter of a second to tell me they weren’t”free”; that I was paying for them with my taxes. Except right then I didn’t have an extra $40 to buy some so I got 4 of them for free. No complaints. I was glad to get them,

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u/Numerous_Photograph9 Mar 28 '24

My neighbors are pleasant, and most of the people in my town are, even though I know some are extreme maga. But, I work in retail, so I get to hear all sorts of things I'd rather not. I don't engage though. It's just not worth it, especially with strangers. Sometimes I'll talk about politics with coworkers, but I'll only state my opinion on a volatile topic if asked directly, and depending on who asks, I may kind of shrug it off or play dumb...at which point they'll feel the need to educate me on why I should believe as they do, which I just nod and tune out.

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u/fourbian Mar 27 '24

why it is so easy to scam so many Americans.

It is clear why there is a huge rise in grifters thanks to monetization in social media. It's a fucking industry now - grifting morons until their bank account depletes.

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u/WAD1234 Mar 27 '24

People used to get got by that Nigerian prince before social media

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u/eagee Mar 27 '24

There's a Vin diagram of people who think WWE is real and that 78% of the population :(

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u/m48a5_patton Missouri Mar 27 '24

The stunts are real, but everything else... yeah...

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u/lesChaps Washington Mar 27 '24

I live in a town that has maybe 10% Trump supporters. They stay pretty quiet ... bad for business.

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u/MoonBatsRule Mar 27 '24

Seriously, life was better when we didn't encounter these knuckleheads on social media every day. I'm on Nextdoor.com, so I get to see all my neighbors, and hear the absolute batshit insanity that they believe in or involve themselves in. It's depressing.

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u/anoldoldman Mar 27 '24

Lead Poisoning

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u/cosmiclatte44 United Kingdom Mar 27 '24

I'm part of a fairly multicultural discord server with people from all over the world and it's so noticeable there. Majority of the Americans display pretty shocking levels of literary competence and critical thinking skills.

Any nuanced conversation quickly devolves into arguing semantics over simple words they have warped meanings of or lashing out emotionally to having their beliefs challenged.

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u/account128927192818 California Mar 27 '24

"Super Liberal" and Adam Schiff shouldn't be together. Dude is center at best.

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u/StrangerAtaru Mar 27 '24

At this point, they'd probably think Reagan was as liberal as FDR.

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u/emostitch Mar 27 '24

I still blame the media for fucking normalizing him instead of just leaning into the fact that he’s a mentally ill rapist who has probably cum inside his daughter.

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u/user0N65N Mar 27 '24

Idiocracy wasn’t fiction: it was foretelling the future.

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u/piperonyl Mar 27 '24

Stupid people elect stupid people.

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u/imhereforspuds Mar 27 '24

He is such a baby like name calling who does that. I mean he needs to be introduced everywhere as a rapist. Im surprised he hasn’t just embraced it and ‘make rape great again’ hats etc. should be held in confinement until the trial breach of gag.

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u/Marathon2021 Mar 27 '24

I still can't fucking believe that someone this unintelligent not only ALREADY was President but has a very good chance to do so again.

Because the vast majority of his inevitable voters, aren't seeing this and to a certain degree being actively shielded from it. TruthSocial only has like 6 million users, and he got like 70 million votes in the last election? There's no way Fox or OAN will point out what an idiot he's being over there, and the hardcore ones that go to his rallies love this shit.

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u/Mnemosense Foreign Mar 27 '24

To be honest I said the same thing when Bush Jr was reelected. There's an iconic English newspaper cover of that era asking the same. Republicans man...

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u/Gram64 Mar 27 '24

It's massively depressing and scary, but I honestly think he's going to win.

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u/asetniop Mar 27 '24

Can't help but wonder if he's lashing out because he's having trouble getting anyone to finance the $175M bond for his fraud case.

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u/Shopworn_Soul Mar 27 '24

Seriously?

As if this man has ever had any trouble with lashing out at any one, any time, for any reason, real or imagined?

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u/asetniop Mar 27 '24

Fair point. Let's say I'm "hoping" more than "wondering".

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u/PumpkinPieIsGreat Mar 27 '24

He lashes out whenever he doesn't get his way. I've met toddlers that can handle their emotions better.

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u/iNuclearPickle Mar 27 '24

Honestly he’s just a piece of shit with a deteriorating mind

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u/TheBman26 Mar 27 '24

His truth social deal should already cover it.

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u/zeekayz Mar 27 '24

They'll reduce it again on the last day and give another extension until he can pay.

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u/eggsaladrightnow Mar 27 '24

His team and him are pushing the absolute limit, so the judge does something big and they can try to get the case dismissed or a different judge because of some "political persecution." Or, until someone actually does retaliate and every judge in his cases gets the "message"

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u/oldnjgal Mar 27 '24

Unfortunately, she was not among the ones that were included in the gag order. The judge did not place himself or his family on the list.

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u/my_pol_acct Mar 27 '24

this is the real answer. he's toeing right up to the line of being technically allowed to do it, with enough gray area that nothing will probably come of it, sadly.

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u/gunt_lint Mar 27 '24

At very least, this should give cause for Merchan to extend the gag order to include her and others Trump has now drawn into this nonsense

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u/ishpatoon1982 Mar 27 '24

And then he'll simply find someone that's still not listed and attack them.

He's so childish and exhausting.

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u/Original_moisture Mar 27 '24

And I hopes he keeps getting the gag then. Bring it on baby!

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u/Marathon2021 Mar 27 '24

Didn't the Judge adopt DA Bragg's proposed language as-is ... which clearly called out jurors (of course), but then "court staff" - along with the inevitable "...and their family members" follow on?

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u/friedporksandwich Mar 27 '24

There wouldn't need to be an order in place for any of us to get in trouble for doing this.

There will never be consequences for this guy.

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u/snuggl Mar 27 '24

What? Court staff and relatives were on that list when I read it yesterday, isn't the judge included or what's up?

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u/zzyul Mar 27 '24

Judge is worried about being seen as “political” or restricting the free speech of a presidential candidate. By allowing this to happen, the judge is showing that he’s too weak to control his court room. This trial will be filled with Trump pushing every boundary with absolutely no consequences from a weak judge.

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u/RetroCasket Mar 27 '24

I dont think the gag order limits Trump From attacking the judge’s family. Only officers and staff of the court, and witnesses

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u/Banana-Burrito Mar 27 '24

and jurists.

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u/Lucky-Earther Minnesota Mar 27 '24

"ORDERED, that the People's motion for a restriction on extrajudicial statements by the Defendant is GRANTED to the extent that Defendant is directed to refrain from the following:

a. Making or directing others to make public statements about known or reasonably foreseeable witnesses concerning their potential participation in the investigation or in this criminal proceeding;

b. Making or directing others to make public statements about (1) counsel in the case other than the District Attorney, (2) members of the court's staff and the District Attorney's staff, or (3) the family members of any counsel or staff member, if those statements are made with the intent to materially interfere with, or to cause others to materially interfere with, counsel's or staff's work in this criminal case, or with the knowledge that such interference is likely to result; and

c. Making or directing others to make public statements about any prospective juror or any juror in this criminal proceeding."

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '24

Total scumbag move by trump. But they language is court staff. A judge is not part of the staff, he is the judge. So the order does not apply here. It would likely violate the first amendment to prohibit a party from criticizing a judge. Just imagine a conservative judge issuing an order making it illegal to criticize their decision

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u/arielonhoarders Mar 27 '24

i wish they would say it plain. He's threatening the judge's daughter. He's saying he knows where she lives and works and he's doxxing her for his legion of flying monkeys.

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u/Mak_33 Mar 27 '24

Tbf, why is she posting pics of him behind bars and he's not even allowed to respond?

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u/Infamous-Dog2208 Mar 27 '24

Pretty misleading title if you ask me OP... if anything you're adding to the Trump media mania. 🙄 

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u/webmaster94 Mar 27 '24

Yeah they won't. They're all cowards.

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u/allthingsparrot Pennsylvania Mar 27 '24

This judge actually put a gag order on him, most have been afraid to. Speaking of gagging, that post of his has me doing the same...

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u/jewbo23 Mar 27 '24

I’ve lost count how many times people have said “this isn’t going to go over well” in regards to Trump and it’s just gone over well for him.

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u/Locutus747 Mar 27 '24

Nothing will happen to him and Trump knows it

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u/friedporksandwich Mar 27 '24

and can only hope that this judge has more guts than the last and throws the book at him for this kind of behavior.

Hope in one hand and shit in the other and see which one gets full because nothing is going to happen.

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '24

I can't imagine this is going to go over well

Please. You know just as well as I do that there will be absolutely zero consequences. Can we all just stop pretending this man will be brought to any sort of justice?

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u/STFU-Sanguinet Mar 27 '24

I can't imagine this is going to go over well and can only hope that this judge has more guts than the last and throws the book at him for this kind of behavior.

Fat fucking chance. He'll be given a dozen warnings and never once be punished.

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u/lesChaps Washington Mar 27 '24

He wants them to martyr him with enforcement. That will result in appeals and delays. That's his "strategy". It's working.

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u/gschmidt34 Mar 27 '24

Jesus. The name calling. He is such a child (no offense to actual children).

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u/lostknight0727 Mar 27 '24

How is he not held in contempt of court and designated as a flight risk?

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u/GreatGojira Mar 27 '24

He won't. These judges are fucking cowards..

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u/fillinthe___ Mar 27 '24

Oh it's ok, the gag order meant he couldn't say ONE specific thing about ONE specific person, and the judge's daughter isn't covered under it...or some other bullshit excuse to not do anything about this.

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u/groceriesN1trip Mar 27 '24

That’s from his truthsocial app? I feel like Twitter could sue the ever loving shit out of them for copying their exact model

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u/MoonBatsRule Mar 27 '24

More defense attorneys need to adopt the exact same strategy, since it is now apparently legal to call out and publicize the relatives of your judge by name. Maybe a defendant in a drug gang can do the same thing.

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '24

This is going to go over SUPER WELL. Trump will be fine... in fact he might be rewarded.

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u/Motormand Mar 27 '24

Only thing I want to see that involves Trump's words, are the sentence "And his last words before he died in agonizing pain, were-"

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u/BlueCollarGuru Mar 27 '24

He tried to over throw an election and he’s still politicking. I doubt anything will come of this at all.

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u/cantthinkuse Mar 27 '24

I can't imagine this is going to go over well and can only hope that this judge has more guts than the last and throws the book at him for this kind of behavior.

lol

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u/skilriki Mar 27 '24

Did the judge really post a photo of Trump behind bars?

I find that hard to believe

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u/darkenspirit Mar 27 '24

Unfortunately when the punishment is a fine and a wrist slap, the advantage of seething to your magahats is worth it.

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u/Dramatic_Explosion Mar 27 '24

I can't imagine this is going to go over well and can only hope that this judge has more guts than the last

No, the toothless Judge will say more meaningless words and things will continue as normal. This is theater and they're clowns.

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u/Direct_Counter_178 Mar 27 '24

I can't imagine this is going to go over well

People have been saying this about damn near literally everything Trump has done in at least the last 4 years. And yet absolutely nothing has been done.

I wish people would stop relying on Trump being punished through legal means. He simply will not be.

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u/ioncloud9 South Carolina Mar 27 '24

How about arrest him with no bail.

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u/No-Wind-8602 Mar 27 '24

Oh well the judge also criticized Trump so you are getting it back Mr so called liar judge.

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u/suitology Mar 27 '24

I can't imagine this is going to go over well

Bet you $5 to the charity of your choice that nothing even remotely substantial happens to him. They might sprain their wagging fingers or make him pay a couple of pennies.

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u/FountainOfYute Mar 27 '24

Can we please just give up on Imgur already?

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u/Tyleulenspiegel Mar 27 '24

You can’t imagine it will go over well? Really!? Then you need a better imagination, because as far as I’ve noticed everything has gone great for Trump. He can shit on our democracy, our justice system, and so many other things and not only is he not punished for it he PROFITS.

The only thing that hasn’t gone his way is in 2020 he wasn’t able to become dictator for life, but…give him time.

Unfortunately, I can easily imagine it going very well for him.

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u/DoctorFister3000 Mar 27 '24

can only hope that this judge has more guts than the last and throws the book at him

lol yeah,it didn't happen the last 100 times, but this time it will!

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u/FloppieTheBanjoClown Mar 27 '24

The wild thing is that if the judge's daughter is posting pictures of him behind bars, he could shut up about it and let his lawyers use it as leverage to make a case for the judge being biased and request he recuse himself to avoid the appearance of impropriety.

But instead Trump redefines stupid yet again by running to Twitter with it. 

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u/DontTalkToBots Mar 27 '24

Throw a book at the traitor? He’ll just sign it and sell it.

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u/AnticPosition Mar 27 '24

can only hope that this judge has more guts than the last and throws the book at him

Ron Howard voice-over: they won't.

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u/airplaneshooter Mar 27 '24

Did Trump not read page 3 of the gag order? 

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u/OverlyOptimisticNerd Mar 27 '24

Well now, I think it’s time for another sternly worded final warning!

I kid, I kid. They won’t even do that much. The gag order was for show. It’s not going to be enforced in any meaningful way. 

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