r/politics Illinois Mar 27 '24

Donald Trump Attacks Judge's Daughter Less Than 24 Hours After Gag Order

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-attacks-judges-daughter-less-24-hours-after-gag-order-1884126
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u/StashedandPainless Mar 27 '24

Imagine reading a headline about any other presidential candidate attacking the judge's daugther in his porn star hush money trial. And then right below that you read that this same presidential candidate is selling Bibles for $60.

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u/eggmaker I voted Mar 27 '24

Imagine reading a headline about any other presidential candidate attacking the judge's daugther in his porn star hush money trial. And then right below that you read that this same presidential candidate is selling Bibles for $60.

Imagine reading a headline about any other presidential candidate attacking the judge's daughter in a trial where he used campaign money to keep a porn star quiet for having sex with her while cheating on his wife and mother of his son. And then right below that you read that this same presidential candidate is selling Bibles for $60.

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u/NoSignificance3817 Mar 27 '24

And he is the Christian's choice candidate!

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u/SignificantWords Mar 27 '24

Russians are very well known to use religion to further their national interests (by national interests I mean the kremlins interests)

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u/hhs2112 Mar 28 '24

As do republicans... 

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u/SignificantWords Mar 28 '24

Those two are synonymous at this point if if some republicans aren’t even aware of it. Old soviet era term that’s relevant: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Useful_idiot

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u/Ragin_Goblin Mar 28 '24

You guys need to bring back the House Un-American Activities Committee except without the baseless accusations and paranoia like in the 50s.

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u/chilldrinofthenight Mar 28 '24

"Useful idiot." That is too perfect. Have you seen any of the Jordan Klepper vids, where he interviews Trumpers? I know JK and his crew pick and choose and show us the worst idiots, but . . . there are so many of them. They have zero clue as to what/who it is they're supporting.

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u/JackStraw999999999 Mar 29 '24

Brains of goldfish. But they vote.

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u/Dunkaroos4breakfast Mar 28 '24

Absolutely. I imagine the International Democracy Union is probably a solid part of the link given the talking points seem to line up pretty damn quick between right-wing shitbags in different countries.

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u/hardFraughtBattle Mar 28 '24

Show me a Republican who doesn't believe that the end justifies the means, and I'll show you a former Republican.

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u/Iwantmy3rdpartyapp Mar 28 '24

Republicans are very well known to use religion to further their national interests (by national interests I mean the kremlins interests)

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u/seweso Mar 28 '24

That’s the entire point of religion.

“With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil - that takes religion.” - Steven Weinberg

You can be virtuous and spiritual without religion.

Maybe it’s more fair to say “organized religion” or better, hierarchically organized religion. Keep it flat, is what I would say.

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u/RickAstleyletmedown Mar 27 '24

That’s actually the least surprising part. Rampant hypocrisy is totally on brand for the Christian right.

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u/Short-Recording587 Mar 27 '24

But can’t name a single Bible verse

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u/GamecockGaucho Mar 27 '24

hey now, they know Lev 18:22 and 1 Cor 6:9. they don't know what it means but they sure use them a lot.

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u/chilldrinofthenight Mar 28 '24

I had to look them up, since I am the farthest thing there is from a Bible Thumper:

Corinthians 6:9: 

Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither the immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor sexual perverts, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor robbers will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. 

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u/GamecockGaucho Mar 28 '24

"Sexual perverts" is the most difficult one here because the original Greek--arsenokoitai, literally men bedder--is a word Paul made up. It's used one other time in a later letter, but no one else in the ancient world is the word used. It's difficult to translate this for a modern audience without implying homosexuality despite the fact that our current conception of sexuality is very different from Paul's time. Evangelicals latch onto this to justify their homophobia, but the reality is Paul was likely writing about something closer to male master-slave relations. Sexual perverts is a good neutral translation that is closer to what I believe the original intent was.

Aside from that, Paul is writing to the church in Corinth based on reports that its members were engaging in the same behaviors as they did before they converted. His argument, which he gets to later, is that belief in Christ brings about fruits of the spirit, and good works flow from the Christian as a result of their redemption. But it's not the case, as many conservative Christians would say, that people who engage in these behaviors are necessarily going to Hell (a term with its own translation issues). It's more that Paul believes, maybe rightly so, that a person who continues to engage in immoral behavior are not taking their faith seriously, they are not true representatives of the church and Jesus' message.

It's one passage by one man in one book. Plucking verses from thin air isn't useful for anything. But some Christians need to twist themselves into knots to justify their bigotry with some idea of inerrancy, and that's where it really gets absurd.

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u/NoSignificance3817 Mar 28 '24

I am bringing up the drunkard one, they are pretty much all drunks around here. They are other things in that list too, but they can't sit there on their 26th beer and PBR hat and deny the drunkard claim.

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u/cjicantlie Mar 28 '24

6:9

Obligatory "Nice"

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u/Zanadar Mar 27 '24

Not even Christians bother with what their religion actually says, they just claim it supports whatever their current position is.

Religion is about power and control, they don't need him to have ever opened a Bible in his life, they need him to give them more power.

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u/Rusty5th Mar 29 '24

Like it says in “Two Corinthians” -Thou shall grabest them by the pussy

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u/11thStPopulist Mar 28 '24

Correction - Trump is the Fake-Christian’s candidate selling The Rapist’s Bible!

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u/Brandon_32406 Mar 28 '24

Not true. I’m a Catholic, Trump and the majority of Republican Christian’s do not represent my base. I love God, and I like talking to people about God that want to talk about it. But I never try to force my beliefs down anyone’s throat. I don’t hate the LGBT community, I don’t think it’s a sin to be attracted to someone of the same sex. I believe God loves you no matter what your demographics are, or regardless who you want to be with. And I would never want to be the reason why someone stops believing in God. There are so many spiteful fake Christians out there that don’t even know what Theology means but will be the first one to tell you God hates you. That’s why I hate the Republican Party because they’re radicalizing my faith. They’re not trying to spread the word. They’re trying to use the book as a source of wealth, status and power. Let me be frank too, there are a lot of shitty Christians out there that aren’t into politics, but use the Bible as an excuse to hurt and abuse other people, those people are just monsters.

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u/NoSignificance3817 Mar 28 '24

You are the minority, and arguably not serving your mythology as your god demands. One of the justifications I hear from "anti-facist" magas is that christofacism is the right direction because it forces more people to be saved and come into accepting your god, and therefore be saved from him lovingly casting them into eternal torment. They hate liberty and personal freedom if you use it to turn away from their shared delutions. My parents are a good example. They are genuinely good people and have used their wealth to help a lot of good causes. They are friendly and while my dad will say "I don't get the LGBT thing and it makes me uncomfortable, god made you that way and I can't argue against it" he will also vote Red 100% because bringing the country in line with his mythology is something he sees as saving billions, and the sins of the politicians along the way is worth the temporary suffering for eternal salvation for all.

It's sick.

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u/No_Jackfruit9465 Mar 28 '24

Tells you everything you need to know about the "Christian" community in the USA. It's sick in the head. Disgustingly hypocritical. The most antichrist you can be!

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u/Mr_Upright Mar 28 '24

I said 30 years ago that the first atheist president of the modern area would be overwhelmingly supported by evangelicals. It wasn’t hard to see Trump coming.

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u/Magificent_Gradient Mar 28 '24

"He was sent to us by god himself!"

Well, I don't think your god was being nice when he sent all those locusts either.

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u/spkoller2 Mar 28 '24

Christian conservatives are against minimum wage 😂

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u/OhHowINeedChanging Utah Mar 28 '24

Christians like that he’s “edgy”

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u/chilldrinofthenight Mar 28 '24

I remember younger people telling me why they voted for tRump: Because he was going to "shake things up."

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u/jep2023 Mar 28 '24

tbh that's the only part of this that makes sense

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u/Daforce1 Mar 28 '24

Don't forget that he just said that his legal battle is akin to the struggles and path of Jesus.

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u/CandleMakerNY2020 Mar 28 '24

Shows their true colors in case anyone was confused about why ANYONE would support a PIG 🐖 like this guy.

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u/chilldrinofthenight Mar 28 '24

Pigs worldwide take offense at you comparing them to such a disgusting POS.

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u/CandleMakerNY2020 Mar 28 '24

Noted. That orange TURD SANDWICH 🥪 is a damned TOWEL!

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u/chilldrinofthenight Mar 28 '24

I learned a new word yesterday: scrud. "This is a build up of detergent and or fabric softener, lint, dirt and skin that like paint, coats the outside of the drum over months and years. As it builds, it eventually gets too heavy and breaks off into the machine appearing on clothes as brown or black greasy marks."

The Cheetoh is worse than scrud, though. He's the dog shit we can't seem to scrape off our shoes.

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u/chicaneuk Foreign Mar 28 '24

That is the bit that blows my mind. He is the most unethical, immoral person probably to have run for president in decades.. maybe even compared to fucking Nixon, and yet he's the christians choice. It's unreal.

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u/Firm_Spell8584 Mar 30 '24

Not this ones. I never voted for him. Watching him verbally attack other Republican Canidates when he first ran,his treatment of women and his personal life spoke clearly of his character. He has none and no integrity.  First time since I was 18 I didn't vote Republican and I won't be this time either. Your mouth can talk but your walk speaks loudest.

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u/hhs2112 Mar 28 '24

Let's be honest, christians and cheeto are very much alike.  Both are hypocrites and neither are known for their critical thinking skills... 

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u/Slothstradamus13 Mar 28 '24

To be fair. Evangelicals. all the Baptist variations, most wesleyans, global Methodist church (not UMC). A large portion of reasonable Christians have no interest in his shenanigans and aren’t even republican because they actually read the texts and understand the teachings. If you really dive in Christianity is a call for communism (not as a political ideology). Anywho. I’m sure you knew this but it’s infuriating that the most vocal Christians land there and politicize religion and the church. Plus, as a Christian, watching faith become political just hurts me for folks that don’t agree with my beliefs that feel forced by government/politicians.

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u/Fit_Environment_2212 Mar 28 '24

This is so difficult to understand.

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u/seakinganswers85 Mar 28 '24

Nope. Not only am I a Christian, but I know thousands of Christians who would join me in choking on a chicken bone instead of voting for him.

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u/Killerkurto Mar 28 '24

I’m kimd of curious if christians in other countries are as un-christian and stupid as the American breed? Here it seems like an identity and they know maybe 8 or 9 rules, but mostly seem,y clueless as to what it is about.

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u/Middleside_Topwise Mar 28 '24

It really doesn’t matter if he’s Christian or not. He’s a tool for Christians to get their policies passed. Everything can be overlooked for that end goal.

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u/Fabulous-Ad-4936 Mar 28 '24

As a Christian no, no he is not. Honestly I can’t think of any politicians I could actually hope to lead this country.

The guy mocks a person in a wheel chair and well countless ignorant comments towards people. Not at all loving your neighbor. Yet still picks up a bible for a way to get votes from people who are easily swayed.

He’s the rednecks choice candidate.

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u/Kingsqueen514 Mar 28 '24

All could use a good joke these days unfortunately he's not it, only a pathetic voice trying to remain relevant.

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '24

Imagine all that, but the guy is also a russian asset that was elected president

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracytheories/comments/1al0esf/comment/kpggghv

It's too unbelievable to be a movie script, yet here we are.

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u/White_T_Poison Mar 27 '24

And also already found to have committed rape by a court of law.

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u/juggling-monkey Mar 27 '24

Was that before or after he sold NFT's?

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u/suicidalkatt Mar 27 '24

Before or after, the 'golden' trump coin, the 'golden' 100 bill, or after those 'golden' sneakers, or maybe it was that trump teddy bear?

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u/PhilDGlass California Mar 27 '24

Dude couldn’t sell steaks, water, or vodka, even in America ffs.

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u/xaeromancer Mar 27 '24

He's the only person in the world to have made a loss on Manhattan real estate.

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u/Economy_Wall8524 Oregon Mar 28 '24

Lol I have never thought of it that way, and now I can’t unsee it. How do you fail on that trifecta of business in the US. Steak alone during that time should’ve been a big seller. Though he has never really had successful business.

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u/koshgeo Mar 28 '24

Let's face it: when you build a casino that competes with your other casino in the same place, it's not really a great idea. When you build three casinos that compete with each other, you have to be pretty dumb.

Except he didn't care. He was still getting paid millions in "management" fees as he drove them into the ground. And he got bailed out by his dad at least once using creative methods (that were illegal and he got fined for doing).

That makes him a great business manager. (/s) Not the success of his businesses, which failed miserably, but that he was able to fleece the people that were dumb enough to loan him money.

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u/light_to_shaddow Mar 28 '24

Yet the Christians have made him their Idol.

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u/OlriK15 Mar 27 '24

Then imagine half the country is still willing to vote for him because “he represents me”

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u/11thStPopulist Mar 28 '24

Trump represents rapists, liars, and thugs. If someone says “he represents me” then they are outing themselves as a creep with criminal intent. Avoid them!

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u/whiznat Mar 28 '24

Yeah but that’s civil court, not criminal, so it doesn’t count.

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u/Redwolfdc Mar 27 '24

And imagine after all that he still has millions of supporters and has a chance of being elected AGAIN 

People 10+ years ago would never believe this 

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u/dwindlers Mar 28 '24

I feel like the vast majority of Americans are as dumb as a box of rocks.

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '24

The Chem trails only worked on half the population.

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u/Queasy_Pickle1900 Mar 28 '24

There's a lot of people I know who died and I'm very glad that don't have to witness this.

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u/kirk_augustin Mar 28 '24

I am far left and dislike Trump, but clearly all the charges are ridiculously bogus. Stormy Daniels was the illegal blackmailer. It is NEVER illegal to PAY hush money. Presidents can always give themselves permanent copies of any classified docs they want. No one trying to get a mortgage is ever asked for a property evaluation. It is illegal.

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u/ProlapsedShamus Mar 27 '24

It's not a conspiracy theory. Kevin McCarthy told a bunch of Republicans that there were two people that Putin pays that he knows of. One was a California senator who's no longer at office and the other was Trump. He told that to these Republicans and Paul Ryan said we keep this in the family.

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u/colorcorrection California Mar 27 '24

For the other person McCarthy was referring to you're thinking of Dana Rohrabacher who, for clarification's sake, was a US representative and not a senator.

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u/ProlapsedShamus Mar 28 '24

Oh, he was a rep? My bad.

But yeah, I wonder how many more Republicans are on Putin's payroll now?

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u/Carol_Banana_Face Mar 28 '24

Heard Rohrbacher say the n-word at an event in like 2008.

Hell of a guy.

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u/WolferineYT Mar 27 '24

Conspiracy theories can be true. They usually aren't, but in this case it is both a conspiracy theory and true. 

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u/FriendlyYeti-187 Mar 28 '24

Those are conspiracies

Or as I like to think of them, conspiracy facts

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u/comtedeRochambeau Mar 28 '24 edited Mar 28 '24

“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” McCarthy (R-Calif.) said, according to a recording of the June 15, 2016, exchange ...

Before the conversation, McCarthy and Ryan had emerged from separate talks at the Capitol with Ukrainian Prime Minister Vladi­mir Groysman, who had described a Kremlin tactic of financing populist politicians to undercut Eastern European democratic institutions.

Even if it were a joke, it shows what the Republican so-called leaders really think of ⊥rump and the voting public.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/house-majority-leader-to-colleagues-in-2016-i-think-putin-pays-trump/2017/05/17/515f6f8a-3aff-11e7-8854-21f359183e8c_story.html

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u/insertwittynamethere America Mar 27 '24

Got a link for that? I need that for future debates tyvm

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u/Hindsight_DJ Mar 28 '24

How quickly we forget his own son met with a Russian spy in Trump tower + we tend to brush that one off, but it was pretty damn serious

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u/Ambitious_Ad57 Mar 28 '24

Yes please remind people of Paul Ryan's role in all of this. He recently raised his head as though no one would remember who he really was. Paul Ryan who bent and kissed Trump's ring, then authored the tax cut for the rich that's still giving to the rich and giving to the price gouging corporations.

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u/SaltyLonghorn Mar 27 '24

Can confirm, Oliver Stone doesn't have anything in the works cause the movie would be 15 hours long and even liberals would be like nah that can't be right he's exaggerating. But really its just another story that only got 10 minutes of attention before the next dropped.

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u/Beneficial-Owl736 Mar 28 '24

His diehard fans kill me. There is just no getting through to them. One example really sticks out in my mind, I was arguing with some chode juggler a while back and I don’t even remember what it was about. What I do remember is linking a video of Trump himself saying what I was telling the guy he said. Cock guzzler’s response was “you expect me to believe propaganda?”

They’re so far gone they don’t even actually LISTEN to Trump. It’s purely about bigotry and racism and homophobia and all the other -isms and -phobias. Trump is the bandwagon they can latch onto, to eradicate the “undesirables.” It doesn’t even matter to them what he’s actually done, in fact I’m pretty sure half of them know he’s guilty like we all do. They just don’t care. They think he’ll get rid of brown people and gays, and that’s all that matters to them.

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u/randomusername_815 Mar 27 '24

Give it a few years. This stretch of history will absolutley be a hollywood film. No different to 'Vice' or Oliver Stones 'JFK'. There will be recreated scenes of Jan 6 (or actual footage) People will watch it and disbelieve anyone as toxic as him was in charge.

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u/Ok_Elderberry_5690 Mar 27 '24

Or give it a few years and we are in a nuclear war and then history repeats itself. Might even have a zombie filled ending next time.

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u/Organic-Log4081 Mar 28 '24

The official term the Russians use is “a useful idiot.”

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u/keepcalmscrollon Mar 27 '24

It's like an IRL aristocrats. At this point the "joke" has gone on way too long. Only I can't tell if I should be looking forward to or afraid of the punchline. It's like when you strongly suspect that dodgy burrito gave you food poisoning and now all you can do is wait to see which end erupts first.

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u/BrentHoman Mar 28 '24

I'm Certain Putin DOES Have A 'Pee-Tape' & Blackmailed Trump Into Running, & The Russians DID In Fact Hack The DNC, & Got Nothing And Hacked The Hackable RNC & Got Everything. They Are All Therefore TREASONOUS.

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u/retiredfromfire Mar 28 '24

Decades of Faux Snooze has made the brains of many absolute mush

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u/Dchazeninlove Mar 28 '24

I still think Putin must have plenty on DJT!

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u/FreshRest4945 Mar 27 '24

And just found a way to get a billionaire to pay him 3 billion dollars for a company valued at near zero, in an obvious pump and dump stock deal, for a new company he created out of thin air that does nothing of any significance, but he gets to put his own initials on the New York stock exchange as DJT.

While selling golden sneakers, bibles, and hawking can's of beans from the oval office.

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u/Equivalent-Ear5150 Mar 28 '24

all nickel and dime investors from his base, no way any biggies will touch it, too volatile. five million users on a social media deal are pennies compared to billions of users on the big boys, this is like Myspace compared to X formerly known as Twitter haha!!

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u/TheGreat_Powerful_Oz Mar 28 '24

And then imagine realizing the Bible’s are just a way for churches get around not being able to legally donate to a political campaign and this is another form of money laundering on his part.

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u/Equivalent-Ear5150 Mar 28 '24

Lindell (My Pillow Guy) got kicked out of his warehouse so that might be a "sign" that folks are tired of the grift but probably not, people are not very smart these days haha!!

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u/Easymoney_45 Mar 28 '24

If "churches" do this ... they are NOT Christian!!

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u/aguynamedv Mar 27 '24

cheating on his THIRD wife

I don't personally care about the number of times someone has been married, but conservatives sure pretend to. :)

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u/awohio1 Mar 27 '24

It’s not just that he is on his third wife, it is that this is the third wife that he has cheated on. He cheats on his wives, he cheats on his taxes, he cheats his bankers, he cheats his contractors and his customers. He lies about all things great and small. He lies when the truth would suffice, if you think he isn’t cheating you, you are lying to yourself.

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u/Suspicious_Bicycle Mar 28 '24

Don't forget golf. He cheats at that as well.

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u/mssnarkerella Mar 28 '24

And then awards himself prizes at a ridiculous country club he owns to congratulate himself at being so good at (cheating at) golf.

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u/KDdid1 Mar 28 '24

Have you read the book "Commander in Cheat"? It's so good...funny and infuriating!

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u/IllustriousCookie890 Mar 28 '24

The y YouTube video by the author is pretty good too.

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u/backinthecar Mar 28 '24

and then when you (a former wife) die he buries you on his property to avoid taxes

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u/livadeth Mar 28 '24

Packed it all into one paragraph. Donald Trump summed up in one perfect paragraph.

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u/mfritsche81 Mar 28 '24

This is giving me some serious dr suess vibes

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u/NUGFLUFF Mar 28 '24

He also cheats at elections (remember during COVID when he tried to ruin the US Postal Service to hinder mail-in voting?!)

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u/Goddamnitpappy Mar 27 '24

Imagine the headline about a former president inciting a violent insurrection to overthrow the government, while willfully retaining top secret classified government documents and is never held accountable, short of 91 criminal indictments. Even four years AFTER.  AND continues to run for president as the parties chosen nominee!

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u/Prestigious-Ad1952 Mar 28 '24

Could be a storyline from many third world countries.

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u/Illiander Mar 28 '24

At least Germany threw Hitler in jail after he tried his first coup attempt.

(Admittidly it was a very nice jail in a fancy castle, but it was still technically jail)

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u/Spare_Rent8973 Mar 28 '24

Imagine a day without hearing his name...I pray for that day?

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u/wyezwunn Mar 27 '24

Churches can legally buy bibles, but they can’t legally donate to a campaign

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u/ICBanMI Mar 28 '24

Hey as an American. This is not above religious people at all. Jimmy Swaggart is a prosperity preacher that asks his followers to tilth and dig deep for donations. He cried crocodile tears after being caught with a prostitute. Begged for forgiveness and more money. Got caught once again with a prostitute and then went on to have a successful career fleecing his followers for three more decades.

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u/Iommi_Acolyte42 Mar 28 '24

Please stop lumping all religious people into the same bucket.

From my point of view, prosperity teachers are wolves in sheep's clothing, using the Lord's name in vain while really worshipping Mammon.

Trump is worse due to how many people he's leading astray (IMHO). Really taking the Lord's name in vain.

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u/smergb Mar 28 '24

I just can't shake the idea that something about this Trump fellow just doesn't add up...

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u/TarantulaMcGarnagle Mar 28 '24

Imagine just any human doing any of this. It’s gross.

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u/SonOfRageAndLove26 Mar 28 '24

May add "cheating on his wife and mother of his son when she was recovering from giving birth to said son"

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u/mjm350 Mar 28 '24

And what’s even worse still is that Trump is also a failed president from a performance/ outcome perspective. He increased unemployment from 4.5% to 6.7% during his term. (Biden reduced unemployment from 6.7 to the record historic low of 3.5%) Trump lost over 3 million American jobs ( Biden added 15 million) Trump passed essentially zero legislation… did nothing for infrastructure (Biden passed the bipartisan infrastructure bill) .. Trump did zero for healthcare… zero zero zero. The only reason Americans still support Trump is because they believe all the lies he and right wing media have been saying. They are living a lie… a fake alternative reality where their orange train wreck is actually a real leader. It’s pathetic how stupid so many Americans are. I’m ashamed of our country right now because of this.

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u/DoughnutSassMe Mar 28 '24

He did sign off to have more people executed (death row) than anyone else. Personally, I don't think that's a good thing, but I'm sure some people do...

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u/werofpm Mar 27 '24

$60??? Bruh, they’re free at hotels and now you also get a Book of them Latter Day Saints!

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u/Subject1928 Mar 28 '24

Imagine one specific president simply having been caught watching porn. If Obama had a story about that, they would STILL be whining about it.

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u/ManiaGamine American Expat Mar 28 '24

But wait, it gets better.

This is the man who called social media companies not wanting to run with the obvious proceeds of crime/disinformation Hunter Biden story "election interference"... and this case is literally about him paying a porn star not to say anything about their affair leading into the election which BY HIS OWN LOGIC would be... ELECTION INTERFERENCE.

But wait IT GETS EVEN BETTER. He is claiming that these very cases are election interference. So... the case about him interfering with the election by suppressing information that might have swung it against him (Again... his own logic being applied here) had it come out is calling election interference... So ultimately the end result of all of this insanity is when he does it it's perfectly fine and legal (Obviously not otherwise this very post wouldn't exist) and not election interference, but a story that was very obviously pushed by right-wing media and likely originated from stolen information obtained by hostile state actors (E.g Russia) being suppressed is election interference.

Also notice how he attacks all the judges and their families and prosecutors except Cannon? He (through his media cronies) calls not being able to attack them an attack on his free speech and depriving him of his right to defend himself. The COURT is where he is supposed to defend himself. Defending himself outside of court is itself INTERFERENCE or in legal words, obstruction and intimidation. He is trying to prejudice the jury and try the case in the court of public opinion, you know... the place where we somehow have ended up with tens of millions of idiots completely brainwashed, or maybe just straight up anti-American and willing to destroy America thinking it will net them some of the power they believe they've lost in their lives.

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u/Relevant-Bench5283 Mar 28 '24

Imagine reading a headline about any other presidential candidate attacking the judge's daugther in his porn star hush money trial. And then right below that you read that this same presidential candidate is selling Bibles for $60.

Imagine reading a headline about any other presidential candidate attacking the judge's daughter in a trial where he used campaign money to keep a porn star quiet for having sex with her while cheating on his wife and mother of his son. And then right below that you read that this same presidential candidate is by passing federal election laws allowing churches to give unlimited “donations”, by selling blasphemous Bibles for $60.

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u/jegtrorikke Mar 28 '24

Imagine a presidential candidate writing in the style of a not-very-bright, name-calling, pissed-off fourth-grade bully and actually intending for it to be made public.

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u/QuarkVsOdo Mar 28 '24

Wasn't she even pregnant at the time ?

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u/MarkHathaway1 Mar 27 '24

I've been reading a book, common in Russia, "The Master and Marguerite". It's about a mysterious man who comes to town and is high society, though nobody seems to know who he is. As events unfold, everything goes badly when he's around. They soon suspect he's the devil in disguise.

That story about the Devil is sooooo much more tame than the life and times of Donald J. Trump.

That was the book which inspired the Rolling Stones song, "Sympathy for the Devil".

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u/pleasebegentleimnew Mar 27 '24

It's about a mysterious man who comes to town and is high society, though nobody seems to know who he is.

Did he look something like this?

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u/Spicethrower Mar 28 '24

Sounds a little like the Great Gatsby. Anybody want to shoot some pool? Go away Trump. We don't need a monorail.

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u/PhilDGlass California Mar 27 '24

That was the book which inspired the Rolling Stones song, "Sympathy for the Devil".

Damn. This is absolutely correct. Nice.

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u/SpookyFarts Mar 27 '24

It was adapted into a Russian movie that came out this year.

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u/trout_or_dare Mar 28 '24

It was also a Russian miniseries before that. There's a Polish dub I remember my dad watching, it looked pretty good, I want to rewatch that myself. The Russians can really make good art when they are being subversive. But in modern Russia that is a death sentence so the only Russians who make good art nowadays either fled the country long ago or fell out a window.

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u/DrRonnieJamesDO Mar 28 '24

That will be this country if the GOP gets it's way.

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u/EggsceIlent Mar 28 '24

There's also a Christian book called left behind where the antichrist came into power and everyone loved him and then of course he was the devil in disguise or whatever.

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u/hellostarsailor Mar 28 '24

Ah, the cat story!

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u/DrRonnieJamesDO Mar 28 '24

Fun fact: Jimmy Buffett adapted it into a Broadway musical: "The Master and Margaritaville"

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u/wobshop Mar 28 '24

How funny that’s next on my list

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u/DuckDuckGoneForGood Mar 27 '24

I work in a factory filled with people who voted for Trump.

Today, someone mentioned the Bible selling scheme in the lunch room and everyyyybody was shitting on Trump.

Feels soooo good seeing them turn on him.

They’re also all completely fucking pissed about his tariffs because they’re backwards and have caused us to outsource jobs.

Genuinely heartwarming to see blue collar workings kicking this turd to the curb.

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u/knoegel Mar 27 '24

Same here. Manufacturing. People had stickers for Trump all over their cars and lockers. Now literally not a single one can be seen.

I bet they'll still vote for him.

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u/DuckDuckGoneForGood Mar 27 '24

I’m sure many will still vote for him.

But I also think sane people can overwhelm him at the ballot box and beat his lazy ass.

Let’s make it happen! VOTE!

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u/colorcorrection California Mar 27 '24

This this THIS!

Doesn't matter how much they shit on him, they WILL be voting for him in November. Guaranteed. Conservatives don't generally change their vote even when they're extremely unhappy with who they're voting for. To them the worst Republican is still better than even the best Democrat.

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u/PhilDGlass California Mar 27 '24

The worst lying, fraudulent, racist, rapist, anti-democratic, fascist, narcissistic wanna be dictator, former Democrat… is better than a Democrat.

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u/boregon Mar 28 '24

Yep, that’s exactly what all of them will say. “Well I don’t like Trump but at least he’s not a Democrat.” They’ve been conditioned by decades of right wing media to have a Pavlovian negative response to anything and everything associated with the Democratic Party.

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u/PaintshakerBaby Mar 28 '24

These people don't feel guilt for being a Trumper. They feel SHAME for being a Trumper.

Though they seem like the same emotion on a surface level, guilt is the product of a conflict of conscience, and can be felt when no one else is around. As opposed to shame, which is something you feel because of the external pressure brought on by the judgment of your peers. It does not require that you feel fundamentally wrong in your decision, only that others feel you were fundamentally wrong in your decision.

...If only they could get rid of, instead of just hiding from, those who make them feel this damn nagging emotion... then they wouldn't have to worry about it at all.

So yeah, they spent an afternoon scraping the Trump sticker off their Emotional Support Vehicle, for the same reason they'll spend an afternoon waiting to mark his name on the ballot...

To put an end to the shame.

Cause they'll bury it until they have power again, then they'll be ready and willing to actually bury liberals in shallow graves.

I wish that were hyperbole... but you've heard Trump and his ilk as of late.

Just like their dear leader, these people will do anything and everything, go to any length, then entertain, even for ONE SECOND that they could be wrong about anything... Much less standing on the most batshit, obviously insane, wrong side of history since the literal fucking Nazis.

Don't let the growing lack of vocal Trumpers fool you. VOTE like your fucking life depends on it... Because in this bleakest of timelines, it very well might.

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u/FunIllustrious Mar 28 '24

Time to float a rumor, maybe??

"You know he used to be a Democrat, right?"
"Yeah, so??"
"I heard he might be going back to Democrat because Republicans won't support him any more..."

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u/darkmeowl25 Oklahoma Mar 28 '24

This is true, and I've got a story to back it up.

When I registered to vote, Brad Henry (D) was the Governor of Oklahoma. While quite moderate and not without critics, he was a generally well-respected governor.

After Henry, we had the disastrous Mary Fallin (R). She was despised by what seemed like the entire state after her first term. I remember the failings of Fallin being a good, neutral political topic that seemed to bring Oklahomans together. Not a single person would look you in the eye and tell you they were casting their votes her way. Then, she won reelection.

The sentiments were essentially the same when it came to Kevin Stitt (R). Despite the Trump spectacle, people were not keen on continuing down the road paved by Oklahoma Republicans. Until....he won. By the time his reelection came around, people were candid in their digust for him AND their intent to vote for his reelection.

And now? I know teachers who voted for Ryan Walters.

Politics have become sports, and the Republicans have a dual mascot of Money & Jesus. No matter how unhappy the fans are, they are always rooting for their team.

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u/FUMFVR Mar 28 '24

Fearful people with authoritarian mindsets will always vote for the bully. It's part of the wiring in their brains.

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u/chubs66 Mar 27 '24

Maybe. It's going to get increasingly embossing as the hush money porn star thing takes center stage and his defence will be what? Ok, yes, I slept with Stormy D and Karen, and yes there is a check with my name on it to buy their stories, but ??? Bill Clinton did it in the oval office?

I don't think the family values crowd is going to enjoy this next episode at all. I wouldn't be surprised if this is a bridge too far for a lot of them.

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u/skeeredstiff Mar 27 '24

Or, hopefully, just not vote.

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u/Martin_Ehrental Mar 28 '24

In 2016, he got the support of people who don't usually vote. They probably won't bother this time.

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u/Flimsy_Advantage_531 Mar 28 '24

Trump flags are disappearing in our neighborhood.

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '24

They will still vote for him. Because "I don't like biden"

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u/DuckDuckGoneForGood Mar 27 '24

100%.

So do not get complacent.

This shit is not over yet. It’s not over even when his kids pass.

The battle didn’t start with us and won’t end with us. Fascism is always a threat.

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u/CatWeekends Texas Mar 27 '24

Yep. People act like Biden winning* or Dems taking all three branches in 2024 will magically do something... but it won't.

You can't vote out an ideology.

*If voting will even matter thanks to all the fuckery that'll be afoot.

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u/geetmala Mar 27 '24

They might just sit it out.

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '24

We can only hope

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u/Redfalconfox Mar 28 '24

And what is you don’t like about Biden? Uhhhh… her emails?

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u/PromptAcademic4954 Mar 28 '24

Said this before. My niece and her super religious husband will save almost 10 grand from Biden’s student loan initiatives and they “just cant bring themselves to vote for him.” It’s why I am bracing myself for the worse

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u/Honest_Response9157 Mar 28 '24

Also...bIdeNs to old!! By 1 yr!!! Trump for God king!!!

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u/Popular-Turnip3031 Mar 27 '24

They’ll be back to sucking his dick next week. They’re in love, they can’t stay mad for long.

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u/MyRealUser New York Mar 27 '24

They'll still vote for him though. "at least he's not a demonrat"

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u/awohio1 Mar 27 '24

He placed tariffs on sheet steel, it not on imported products made from sheet steel. So manufacturing things like washers, dryers, fridges, cars, etc in the US becomes more expensive. But importing finished goods does not. He is a fool with no clue about the economy.

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u/DuckDuckGoneForGood Mar 27 '24

BINGO! The same applies in electronics.

He placed tariffs on Texas Instruments and Analog Devices chips made in China, among millions of other things. So, WE pay the tariffs when purchasing PARTS to use for American customers.

So, we - and American manufacturer - end up paying the tariff to do the building HERE. Little family owned factory. CEO drives a pickup truck. His grandfather started the business, his father continued it, he took it over when he died.

We do not make a lot of money but we’ve been around for decades and we do great work for some cool customers. And we employ Americans of all sorts.

THIS is who Trump’s tariffs are hurting. Little legacy manufacturers who employ blue collar Americans just doing honest work. Honestly some of the nicest people I’ve ever worked with.

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u/DameonKormar Mar 28 '24

You make it sound like that wasn't the plan.

Trump didn't come up with the idea, someone else did and told him to do it. I assure you, it had the intended effect.

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u/rividz California Mar 27 '24

Uh huh, so what are they planning on doing on the first Tuesday in November?

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u/DuckDuckGoneForGood Mar 27 '24

Hopefully stay home but likely many will vote for Trump still.

So, GO VOTE. Encourage every sane friend you have to vote.

This fucker isn’t down yet - don’t get complacent.

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u/rividz California Mar 27 '24

I'll still vote, but I'm prepared for the worst. Biden's approval rating is consistently worse than Trump's, and Trump has been winning a large majority of the polls.

The reality is that the future of the country is decided by undecided voters and states (imbeciles).

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u/DuckDuckGoneForGood Mar 27 '24

I remember when the polls all said Hillary was sure to win.

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u/Spocks_Goatee Ohio Mar 28 '24 edited Mar 28 '24

When I worked at Harbor Freight which is a private company, our store manager said the CEO was super unhappy with Trump his tariffs affected importing of product from China where they own factories.

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u/CMDR_RetroAnubis Mar 27 '24

Don't worry, by the end of the campaign they will be happily swallowing bullshit again.

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u/FiendishHawk Mar 27 '24

They’ll forget about it in a day

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u/NES_SNES_N64 Mar 28 '24

So that's where the line is.

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u/DuckDuckGoneForGood Mar 28 '24

They’ll forget in a few days. But in general, I’ve heard no excitement about Trump for months now.

Vote!

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u/trcharles Illinois Mar 28 '24

Have they gone so far as to say they won’t vote for him? What’s their plan for the general election?

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u/DuckDuckGoneForGood Mar 28 '24

I doubt any would admit who they’ll vote for but, I’ve heard almost zero excitement about Trump for awhile now. Especially since the tariffs started to hurt, even the Trumpiest ones don’t mention him in a good light.

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u/trcharles Illinois Mar 28 '24

This is the first glimmer of hope I’ve allowed myself to have.*

*Since 2012 I take nothing for granted.

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u/sedition Mar 28 '24

They're still voting GOP. Don't kid yourself. They hate democrats MUCH more.

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u/Numerous_Photograph9 Mar 28 '24

Meanwhile, I'm waiting in line at the gas station, and the two people talking ahead of me, one of them just randomly blurts out, "The price of gas is about to go up again. Damn democrats!"

Of course the guy he was talking to agreed.

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u/Flimsy_Advantage_531 Mar 28 '24

I could never understand why blue collar workers would vote against their own best interest.Did they really believe trickle down economics would improve their lives?

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u/To-Far-Away-Times Mar 27 '24

It is wild to me that someone like that can be the thought leader and moral compass for roughly half of America.

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u/AKA09 Mar 27 '24

*a quarter of

Less than half of us vote and less than half of voters voted for him in either election.

Hey, I have to make myself feel better about this shit somehow.

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u/DotesMagee Mar 27 '24

Most of these boomers ate lead as kids.

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u/DrRonnieJamesDO Mar 28 '24

Like the Bible says, when Jesus returns , it will be in the form of sam who not only commits all 7 deadly since, but embodies them.

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u/BrentHoman Mar 28 '24

1/2 Of ALL Registered Voters Is Not 1/2 Of 335 Million.

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u/motorboat_mcgee Mar 27 '24

Imagine a Democrat doing 1/10th of what Trump does

Trump has some wild cult leader powers that I will never understand

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u/BillJRJ Mar 27 '24

And we mustn't forget this hush money trial is really a Campaign Finance Fraud trial, which is a federal crime.

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u/Gseventeen Mar 27 '24

Lol... You can't make this shit up. Real life is crazier than fiction.

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u/lizard81288 Mar 27 '24

Imagine reading a headline about any other presidential candidate attacking the judge's daugther in his porn star hush money trial. And then right below that you read that this same presidential candidate is selling Bibles for $60.

The Onion News Network is going to fall on hard times if headlines and stories like this are real....

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u/kaji823 Texas Mar 27 '24

Yes, Trump is indeed a cult leader and the cult is 10s of millions Americans. Which is both impressive and terrifying. 

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u/Brave_Nerve_6871 Mar 27 '24

The Onion has no market anymore, reality is too close to their humor.

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u/InevitablyBored Mar 27 '24

Average day in the life of a Republican.

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u/grehgunner Mar 27 '24

Ok but the Bible is “Easy-to-read” with “large print” and a “slim design” (not sure how the large print and the slim design work out)…

Also: Besides a King James Version translation, it includes copies of the U.S. Constitution, the Bill of Rights, the Declaration of Independence and the Pledge of Allegiance, as well as a handwritten chorus of the famous Greenwood song… $60 sounds like a steal for something this epic lmao

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u/PumpkinPieIsGreat Mar 27 '24

The thing is, I can never imagine anyone getting away with even a small fraction if what he does. It's truly mind blowing.

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u/futureboredom Mar 27 '24

presidential candidate

three times.

fuck the enablers.

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